VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Lostanddamned]

its function is to create a pretext for replaying BADIK (not for individual scenes), but in a fairly arbitrary manner

I think the best mechanism is always that of 'variables' i.e. individual choices (including the picnic shit), if you have done a certain thing you can proceed, otherwise you're out

because even the RPs, which BADIK has but pretty much forgot about, are stupid by putting any action done at any time on the same level

I think that the devs use the system because variables make developing more difficult, especially if there are a lot of episodes and the number of variables only grows with each episode. For example you don't want a scene in like episode 18 to be related to something you did in episode 6 and miss out on the content.

 

[felicemastronzo]

I think that the devs use the system because variables make developing more difficult, especially if there are a lot of episodes and the number of variables only grows with each episode. For example you don't want a scene in like episode 18 to be related to something you did in episode 6 and miss out on the content.

you don't actually have to carry over all the variables. if you had to have done A in order to be able to do B, at that point you only have to carry over B, A has completed its task and you can still take it for granted if there is B

 

[Lostanddamned]

you don't actually have to carry over all the variables. if you had to have done A in order to be able to do B, at that point you only have to carry over B, A has completed its task and you can still take it for granted if there is B

Makes sense, but if C and C1 use both B and A, you have to do it. For it not to be confusing let's say:

A is helped Quinn.
B is for the Maya&Josy threesome.
C is Quinn Others route
C1 is for Maya&Josy choice.

There's no way for you to leave B behind, because you need B for M&J.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Makes sense, but if C and C1 use both B and A, you have to do it. For it not to be confusing let's say:

A is helped Quinn.
B is for the Maya&Josy threesome.
C is Quinn Others route
C1 is for Maya&Josy choice.

There's no way for you to leave B behind, because you need B for M&J.

I did not understand the example...

in reality A does not happen if you can do after B

but even if they can happen A is only bound to C and B is only bound to C1

 

[Lostanddamned]

I did not understand the example...

in reality A does not happen if you can do after B

but even if they can happen A is only bound to C and B is only bound to C1

Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't M&J route require for you to not be a DIK and having done the threesome with them? And C1 (Quinn) requires you to be a DIK, to not help M&J and to have helped her. So practically C and C1 can't be activated if you did both A and B, so you have to transfer them one way or another.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't M&J route require for you to not be a DIK and having done the threesome with them? And C1 (Quinn) requires you to be a DIK, to not help M&J and to have helped her. So practically C and C1 can't be activated if you did both A and B, so you have to transfer them one way or another.

if at the end of chapter four you are not DIK and you have done something sexual with at least one of them (no threesome yet) you can be in the trouple, once you are in the trouple you access both the threesomes and the final decision with M+J

but if you are in the trouple you cannot help Quinn, even if you were DIK at that moment (and being two chapters later you could be)

so in the end you either help Quinn or you are in the trouple, both are not possible

 

[Lostanddamned]

if at the end of chapter four you are not DIK and you have done something sexual with at least one of them (no threesome yet) you can be in the trouple, once you are in the trouple you access both the threesomes and the final decision with M+J

but if you are in the trouple you cannot help Quinn, even if you were DIK at that moment (and being two chapters later you could be)

so in the end you either help Quinn or you are in the trouple, both are not possible

Yeah, I get that. My thought was - you can't leave variables A and B behind and continue with C and C1 for the future. So instead of being overwhelmed by variables and spend an absurd amount of time checking and rechecking them on all options, the system is better for a bigger game.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Yeah, I get that. My thought was - you can't leave variables A and B behind and continue with C and C1 for the future. So instead of being overwhelmed by variables and spend an absurd amount of time checking and rechecking them on all options, the system is better for a bigger game.

of course, not all variables are 'breakable', but most are

if you are in Bella's path that she came to help you fix up the room, you don't need to mark it down

if you're in a relationship with Jade you accepted her advances and went on a date with her, you don't need to mark it down


but in fact it's already like that in the game

 

[Lostanddamned]

of course, not all variables are 'breakable', but most are

if you are in Bella's path that she came to help you fix up the room, you don't need to mark it down

if you're in a relationship with Jade you accepted her advances and went on a date with her, you don't need to mark it down


but in fact it's already like that in the game

You can refuse Bella's help though, which locks out the Bella route.

Now Jade's I don't remember much, I remember it was rather straightforward.

 

[Sasanid]

You can refuse Bella's help though, which locks out the Bella route.

Now Jade's I don't remember much, I remember it was rather straightforward.

I think you can refuse Bella's help only if you don't paint her fence, otherwise she (unless you really don't have many RP with her, I guess) always comes.

 

[NebulousShooter]

otherwise she always comes.

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

 

[Sasanid]

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

It wasn't meant to be a pun, but I also had the same kind of thought when I wrote that word hahaha

 

[Lostanddamned]

she always comes.

I do as well.

 

[Ilhares]

I do as well.

First you paint the fence, then you paint her walls.

 

[Lostanddamned]

First you paint the fence, then you paint her walls.

Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.

 

[felicemastronzo]

You can refuse Bella's help though, which locks out the Bella route.

Now Jade's I don't remember much, I remember it was rather straightforward.

if you are in the Bella path you cannot reject her, you can only reject her if you have not done anything with her in chapter five, effectively putting you out of her path

the structure of Bella's Path is quite simple

go see her to thank her for putting in a good word with Jill?
If not, you're out of her story forever.
If yes, you're in

in chapter five do you push to do something with her?
if not, you're temporarily out
if yes stay in

in the sixth chapter if you are in her path she comes to help you, otherwise you can accept her help.
if you accept you are again in, otherwise forever out

then in the seventh there's Cathy

 

[AchedCroissant]

The system of this game is a pain in the ass and even sometimes when I have to play the 7 routes I have to skip dialogues and only stop when the girl from that route arrives

 

[StalkerXXX]

No mod for Android? The last one got taken down.

 

[DrSoong]

if you are in the Bella path you cannot reject her, you can only reject her if you have not done anything with her in chapter five, effectively putting you out of her path

the structure of Bella's Path is quite simple

go see her to thank her for putting in a good word with Jill?
If not, you're out of her story forever.
If yes, you're in

in chapter five do you push to do something with her?
if not, you're temporarily out
if yes stay in

in the sixth chapter if you are in her path she comes to help you, otherwise you can accept her help.
if you accept you are again in, otherwise forever out

then in the seventh there's Cathy

There is some more you forgot:

in chapter four, in the pool, you can take it further
if not, you're temporarily out
if yes stay in

To be in, you have to see Bella in Ep3 (this is mandatory), then you need one of the lewd scenes from Ep4 or Ep5. This will set the Route Path, if missing Ep3 or both of Ep4 & Ep5 (when having Ep3) you can get out.

To get the phone call but having the chance to get out you must have ONLY Ep3 OR Ep5.

 

[shazba]

The system of this game is a pain in the ass and even sometimes when I have to play the 7 routes I have to skip dialogues and only stop when the girl from that route arrives

You think this game is bad, what about real life?! You just have to put years on skip until the right girl arrives! And then she fucking doesn't...