VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[buggs]

It played in the wrong place in the 9.0 version but if you play 9.1 I think It now plays at the end.

Really?! Thats so weird. Especially because the ending of the Christmas animation fits perfectly with the transition to the Tommy "jumpscare" at the beginning of the episode. If I had to guess, I'd say DPC had planned for the animation to be placed where it was all the way through release, and then before the patch ultimately decided that it was out of place and needed to be moved to the end.

Regardless, if it is set at the end of the episode in the newest patch then that is most likely a tease for next episode, however as I said before, it doesn't necessarily mean a time skip. In America, everyone celebrates Thanksgiving on the day, but the "Thanksgiving Season" is often outshined by the Christmas Season. At least a quarter (probably closer to half) of people start putting up Christmas decorations the day after Halloween, Mariah Carey's "All I Want for Christmas" starts charting on the week of November 1st, and the Christmas super-shopping event "Black Friday" is the literal night of Thanksgiving considering a lot of people camp out for it (or at least used to, since online shopping has become a lot more popular).

I think as a European telling a story set in the US it would be very strange not to do a thanksgiving event. In most media out of the states, thanksgiving is given similar significance to Christmas, if not greater due to the non denominational nature of it.

Well, he could still have a Thanksgiving Event, in fact he should. If DPC truly knew his stuff and was making a realistic depiction of the American lifestyle, Episode 10 could take place in the first 2 weeks of November and consist of houses filled with a mix of Thanksgiving and Christmas decorations and a general Christmas feeling, and then Episode 11 could consist of the next 2 weeks including Thanksgiving, where MC spends the day with his dad and possibly the LI of his choice. Then episode 12 or whatever would continue the Christmas feeling. It would kind of damage idea of having a special "Christmas episode", but it would be realistic to the "American Holiday Season", which in reality lasts 2 months.

 

[buggs]

Only now i realized that in the broccoli scene with Quinn the couple making out in front of them are Jill s friends cheating lol, christ this game has so many hidden clues and scenes i have to watch everything closely.

Well, that also explains why you can't get that scene if you went to dinner with Jill (I'm pretty sure) or else MC would recognize them lol.

 

[fikageci]

Should I play the game from the beggining again, and choose the"chick" path? Or everything is the Same if i choose this "path" ??

 

[TrainHardnett]

I think it's likely she gets herself through college by working at the Pink Rose and after graduating she will move to the other side of the country and start a new life... Burning all bridges, leaving everybody behind that know the Lily in college. Possibly she is getting feelings for MC, but for now she just warns him not to get attached to her. I think the warning itself says more about Lily's plans for life, either way it's a nice way of dropping the hint she is not looking for any commitment to MC.

Lily does say that she works at the Pink Rose for the money and that she wouldn't be in debt after collage like a certain someone, and that she is studying medicine. (so either a doctorate or a nurse)

 

[buggs]

Did scrappy mod stopped making the mod for Badik?

No, there's a new version and it's linked on the front page. Seems like Scrappy has kind of given up in his war against DPC though lol. Mod has a lot less capabilities than previous versions (even beyond just picking a path) and his version of the mod has all the same bugs as the original .90 vanilla version of the game. I think he just wanted to put out an update so peoples saves don't break and leave it at that.

 

[Darkwen]

I think the Christmas thing is more likely a tease for the end of the season rather than the end of the next episode. That would then make sense putting it at the start of the episode (which is also the start of the season) rather than the end (when there's already cliffhangers with Derek finding the cam and depending on route Bella and Nick or M/J and DIKs).

You could be right plus if you consider the start screen it shows MC at Maya and Derek's so thats got to be Thanksgiving and if we got two holidays in one episode that would be a lot of ground to cover the episode would at the very least would have to be double the size of 9 I don't think that going to happen ( I hope) so maybe we get two episodes next year one for post Halloween, new classes, and thanksgiving. The other for finals and Christmas break

 

[Naxer]

I think the Christmas thing is more likely a tease for the end of the season rather than the end of the next episode. That would then make sense putting it at the start of the episode (which is also the start of the season) rather than the end (when there's already cliffhangers with Derek finding the cam and depending on route Bella and Nick or M/J and DIKs).

Yep, I think that you got that right. Next episode will adress the "spy camera" issue, and all the fronts opened by every LI ending (Bella being watched leaving by Nick, Tommy wanting to murder us after seing his stepsis leaving...etc)

 

[Ilhares]

now I want to start from the beginning

Go to the Renpy save folder and delete BaDIK's persistent file to delete it
and go to %appdata%/roaming/renpy folder and delete persistent too

Correction : delete everything in the
%appdata%\RenPy\BaDIK*
folder, as well as your local install game\saves folder.

This goes to the roaming folder by default. (%localappdata% is for the local folder).

 

[PickerLewd]

Because it's really strange an appliance with low battery power is lightning up like a Xmas tree every few seconds....
Derek sleeping there about 1/3 of the time was not the reason it went off, he's been sleeping there for 6 or 7 weeks so what is different to all these nights before when it did not light up? You're using an argument why he witnessed it, that by itself has no connection to anything happening with the detector...

It's electrical, it needs power, so it's either batteries low or it is connected to the electricity network, it's really that easy.
Derek sleeping there or not is not a factor, the only thing that matters is he is there to witness the detector going off or not.
So what makes more sense? The batteries running out exactly that moment or the fact the power was off that day?
I still think it makes more sense it was a result of main power been off then batteries running out just that moment...

Edit : Seems there's spycam smoke detectors available on batteries or the normal electricity net. Most work with movement detection and wifi storage.
Possibly the mysterious black box is the storage device.... Technically it seems possible, (google : Amber, Latticeworks )
So another reason the detector goes off could be "wifi connection lost", however that still means batteries in the black box ended pretty much exactly at the time of the party.... So imho still very low chance of that happening exactly that moment....

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[vogelbeest]

My post :

Normally a fire detector works on batteries, however i doubt batteries are an option when there's a camera in there....
Possibly it's connected to the electricity network and it got an error due to main power switch off at the party....
Only explanation that's somewhat valid since running out of batteries that exact moment seems highly unlikely.

Your answer :

Why...? Lol It's no less likely than any other moment. It's not like there was some incredible significance behind that moment, it just happened to go off while Derek was in the room sleeping, which I could only assume is at least 1/3 of the time (8 hours out of 24)... Thats actually pretty damn likely lol.

Next :

I didn't say it was the reason it went off... Why would you assume the argument I was trying to make is that the light went off because Derek was there? That's like the farthest thing from what I said and doesnt even make sense for you to assume thats what I was trying to argue. What I did say is that it was fairly likely that Derek would be in his room when it went off considering Derek is in his room MORE THAN 1/3 of the day.

My argument : since running out of batteries that exact moment seems highly unlikely.

Your answer : it just happened to go off while Derek was in the room sleeping, which I could only assume is at least 1/3 of the time (8 hours out of 24)... Thats actually pretty damn likely lol.

Perhaps that is why this discussion seems te derail somewhat, no offense

In fact, I have a better question for you: if the light for the camera was going off because the electrical went out earlier in the day, why did it take so long for it to start going off? The power went out before Derek went to bed, but the light starts blinking after Derek is asleep, or at least attempting to sleep. Don't you think if it was related to the power turning off that it would be blinking since the power turned off? Don't you think Derek would have noticed that before getting into bed? But you think its less likely that the battery could have run out at any particular time?

Good point indeed and yes, i still think it's highly unlikely this camera batteries running low exactly that moment....
One possibility that comes to mind is the spycam works on movement so Derek activated it when entering his room.
These devices use wifi to send pictures to a storage, due to earlier power down possibly the router needs a reset....

The story needs to make sense, we have known there's a blackmailer, we have known there's a hidden camera in Derek's room, we know Vinnie switched the power off, was looking for something in MC's room, then camera is found by Derek...
All these things are connected and there is a logical explanation as to why and when everything happened like this....
It would be really sloppy explaining from DPC if the camera just went off since batteries low if you know this has been awaited for that long..... If it was totally random DPC could have let Derek find that camera in the start of episode 10...
Or i'm just hoping it makes sense lol, i dunno..

 

[TomUK]

In fact, I have a better question for you: if the light for the camera was going off because the electrical went out earlier in the day, why did it take so long for it to start going off? The power went out before Derek went to bed, but the light starts blinking after Derek is asleep, or at least attempting to sleep. Don't you think if it was related to the power turning off that it would be blinking since the power turned off? Don't you think Derek would have noticed that before getting into bed? But you think its less likely that the battery could have run out at any particular time?

The electricity didn't go out earlier in the day, it went out a few hours before the party finished by which time everyone and especially Derek was so pissed, he probably couldn't see shit plus the light most probably wouldn't have been turned off until he went to bed, that's even if he took himself to bed and someone didn't carry him there and just turned the light off as they left.

The electricity going out probably reset the camera and it's waiting to be reconnected to whatever Wi-Fi network it's connected to, which is why it was flashing, the same way a digital alarm clock flashes when it resets.

 

[JohnnyBlazePT]

I think she can still get out of it. The game didn't tell. But she probably haven't any police record yet. And the "prostitution" business, is something that she isn't the head, Burke is. Neither she is the head of the drug business. SHe is just a dealer, a small fry.

People like her can get away with it by giving information or testifying against them. These are the kind of people the police likes to use. Because they have something against them, but what they have against them is still minimal. She is a small fish. And she is discovering love. That will probably change her.

She as a first time offender wouldn't get a heavy penalty or anything. There are a lot of material to work on her case and I just wanna wait and see how DPC will work on it.

it would be funny if it was quinn whom was working for the cops
maybe to bail out her father, it would be a nice plot twist

 

[TomUK]

it would be funny if it was quinn whom was working for the cops
maybe to bail out her father, it would be a nice plot twist

The Quinn route is my now favourite route, took me a while to get past all the locks to actually get to finish Halloween in her bed and then what she asks the MC to help her with and the phone message the MC sees on her phone. It's going to be interesting indeed.

 

[LMMFAO]

If we can end the game being with Nicole or Quinn I'll die a happy gamer.

 

[DanMotta]

it would be funny if it was quinn whom was working for the cops
maybe to bail out her father, it would be a nice plot twist

I mean she is actually selling drugs to people like sally, etc. That is not the kind of job an undercover cop would or could do. they can only engage on something illegal if it is gonna result on arrest of the actual criminals. As we see from Quinn so far, she sell drugs to students, she is commiting a crime, so she is deffo not a cop.

But I still see many ways she can get away with it, or have a light sentence.

 

[TomUK]

If we can end the game being with Nicole or Quinn I'll die a happy gamer.

You can finish episode 9 with a Nicole/Lily 3some.

 

[Jimayo]

I mean she is actually selling drugs to people like sally, etc. That is not the kind of job an undercover cop would or could do. they can only engage on something illegal if it is gonna result on arrest of the actual criminals. As we see from Quinn so far, she sell drugs to students, she is commiting a crime, so she is deffo not a cop.

But I still see many ways she can get away with it, or have a light sentence.

It's called a CI. A criminal informant. She actually could be doing everything she is and still be working for the cops. I doubt it, but it's not outside the realm of possibility.

 

[LMMFAO]

You can finish episode 9 with a Nicole/Lily 3some.

I'm talking END GAME my friend. The whole shebang.

 

[buggs]

My argument : since running out of batteries that exact moment seems highly unlikely.

Your answer : it just happened to go off while Derek was in the room sleeping, which I could only assume is at least 1/3 of the time (8 hours out of 24)... Thats actually pretty damn likely lol.

Perhaps that is why this discussion seems te derail somewhat, no offense

I'm still not understanding how this is what derails the conversation? I didn't focus on this quote earlier cuz I just think its irrelevant:

Normally a fire detector works on batteries, however i doubt batteries are an option when there's a camera in there....
Possibly it's connected to the electricity network and it got an error due to main power switch off at the party....

When a spy camera is placed in something that thing is often replaced with a dummy version of the object. Whether or not the fire detector works on batteries has nothing to do with it. The "fire detector" doesn't even have to be a real fire detector anymore, its simply the casing to conceal the camera. So the argument that "Well the fire alarm can't use batteries because there's a camera there so the camera is probably connected to the electricity network" is just nonsense that I didn't really even feel like addressing.

My main issue was with you saying it's unlikely simply to run out at that moment. So yeah, "Your argument" and "My answer" mentioned in the first quote are directly related. What is derailing the conversation there?

we know Vinnie switched the power off, was looking for something in MC's room

I wouldn't really say we know either of these things. Sure, he was probably looking for something in MC's room, but that's not nearly explicitly stated, and Vinnie shutting off the power is even less certain.

It would be really sloppy explaining from DPC if the camera just went off since batteries low if you know this has been awaited for that long

No, it wouldn't. Idk why people pretend that good writing is only convoluted explanations. Coincidences happen literally all the time and this is not even that big of a coincidence. In the book "Great Expectations" by Charles Dickens, Pip randomly meets a dingy old man in a graveyard on Christmas Eve, which sets the plot of the story in motion. There's no reason for Magwitch, the dingy old man, to meet Pip specifically, he's just there and so is Magwitch, so he does because that's how the story is written. Thats how every story is written. Just like there's no specific reason for why Derek is there for when the camera battery goes out, he just is.

If it was totally random DPC could have let Derek find that camera in the start of episode 10...

If it was totally random, I could have just flipped tails on a quarter instead of heads. But I didn't, I flipped heads. That's not a highly unlikely situation, that's how things work...

 

[JohnnyBlazePT]

I mean she is actually selling drugs to people like sally, etc. That is not the kind of job an undercover cop would or could do. they can only engage on something illegal if it is gonna result on arrest of the actual criminals. As we see from Quinn so far, she sell drugs to students, she is commiting a crime, so she is deffo not a cop.

But I still see many ways she can get away with it, or have a light sentence.

im not saying she is a cop, more like a informer or something
i dont think it will be but would be funny