VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Shiftlock]

I don’t really see why this is any different to the previous 8 episodes. We’re going to be connected to all the character driven drama to some degree. Which annoys another group of critics who feel the game should be written in a way where if you aren’t on someone’s path you never see them again.

The core story of the game is essentially the drug dealing and the prostitution all revolving around Quinn. Every player will get more of MC’s mum, more of Jill’s sister, more of Bella’s husband, more of Sage’s dad, more Maya’s finances, more Josy and Tommy. You just won’t get the fuck scenes. The player will simply gain a greater insight when on that characters path. If you find this boring I’m not sure what you ever found interesting about the game.

I did find it interesting the first episodes, episode 1 to 7 takes a cheff kiss evrything felt really overwhelming because mc was with the pressure of trying to help evryone with their problems while Mc was having his own problems to dealth with while at the same time he was having problems of how he was feeling about the girls. All that combined gave a good feeling that you never wanted the episode end it thats what it draw me to the game until episode 8 and 9 that is now free roam simulator: halloween edition.
Now with the rush choice that we were forced to take in the previus episodes. Now it wont feel all that drama the same way because if you want to feel all the drama the same way you need to have a riddiculus amount of saves. So yeah its boring at it wont guve us that feeling that gave us in the first episodes.

 

[BruhNotCool]

Thanks tyballs for being the designated punching bag for my fuckface.

 

[Lumsie]

I did find it interesting the first episodes, episode 1 to 7 takes a cheff kiss evrything felt really overwhelming because mc was with the pressure of trying to help evryone with their problems while Mc was having his own problems to dealth with while at the same time he was having problems of how he was feeling about the girls. All that combined gave a good feeling that you never wanted the episode end it thats what it draw me to the game until episode 8 and 9 that is now free roam simulator: halloween edition.
Now with the rush choice that we were forced to take in the previus episodes. Now it wont feel all that drama the same way because if you want to feel all the drama the same way you need to have a riddiculus amount of saves. So yeah its boring at it wont guve us that feeling that gave us in the first episodes.

So in essence you wanted the relationship drama not to hit a pivotal point of the MC's maturity ( From both his moral perspective and the chat he has at the table, where Elena basically hammers in that if he keeps playing the field, he'll hurt the people closest to him ) and keep causing the romance drama in the plot?

I can understand that desire to some point. But then the introduction to the MC's ex would not have any significant impact. The reason it was done like this is that now the MC has basically attached himself, emotionally, to a person, and the Ex-gf (Who he never broke up with) returns. So there's a new drama shifting. And going forward, it will most likely be more relationship drama, and choices to make between girls. But it'll mostly be around the love interest/Other girls and the Ex girlfriend, I believe.

 

[buggs]

Derek sleeping there about 1/3 of the time was not the reason it went off

I didn't say it was the reason it went off... Why would you assume the argument I was trying to make is that the light went off because Derek was there? That's like the farthest thing from what I said and doesnt even make sense for you to assume thats what I was trying to argue. What I did say is that it was fairly likely that Derek would be in his room when it went off considering Derek is in his room MORE THAN 1/3 of the day.

he's been sleeping there for 6 or 7 weeks so what is different to all these nights before when it did not light up?

No difference at all? I don't understand what you're getting at here? Do you think there has to be a purpose to every single thing in the world happens in relation to every other thing around it? It could have happened any night, any time of day in fact, but it happened that night and Derek happened to be there... It's not that unlikely at all. I was sitting at home on Monday and got a fire call that I needed to respond to. Why did it happen at that moment? I don't know, but it did because that's the way the world works... Why does the low battery light go off when Derek is sleeping in the room after the Halloween Party? Because that's the way it was written. Same reason why Ser Waymar Royce runs into an Other in the prologue of A Game of Thrones.

You're using an argument why he witnessed it, that by itself has no connection to anything happening with the detector...

No... No that's not what I was arguing at all. Why would I argue why he witnessed it? I don't need to. The battery was low so the light blinked and Derek happened to be there. There doesn't need to be a reason why he witnessed it, it was a coincidence, but not an unlikely coincidence at all.

So what makes more sense? The batteries running out exactly that moment or the fact the power was off that day?

Again, you act like "exactly that moment" is some significant unique moment. There were about 20 billion other moments exactly like it. Why are you acting like Derek said "Oh spirits of the night, if there is anyone spying on me please force them to reveal themselves" and then the light started blinking? That would be a highly unlikely event. The battery-operated camera in your room going off while you are in said room is not an unlikely event in the slightest.

In fact, I have a better question for you: if the light for the camera was going off because the electrical went out earlier in the day, why did it take so long for it to start going off? The power went out before Derek went to bed, but the light starts blinking after Derek is asleep, or at least attempting to sleep. Don't you think if it was related to the power turning off that it would be blinking since the power turned off? Don't you think Derek would have noticed that before getting into bed? But you think its less likely that the battery could have run out at any particular time?

 

[always86]

I did find it interesting the first episodes, episode 1 to 7 takes a cheff kiss evrything felt really overwhelming because mc was with the pressure of trying to help evryone with their problems while Mc was having his own problems to dealth with while at the same time he was having problems of how he was feeling about the girls. All that combined gave a good feeling that you never wanted the episode end it thats what it draw me to the game until episode 8 and 9 that is now free roam simulator: halloween edition.
Now with the rush choice that we were forced to take in the previus episodes. Now it wont feel all that drama the same way because if you want to feel all the drama the same way you need to have a riddiculus amount of saves. So yeah its boring at it wont guve us that feeling that gave us in the first episodes.

I’m not sure getting to know characters over 8 episodes and 15+ hours of game play and then being asked to choose is a rushed decision. The choice was obviously going to have to happen eventually, perhaps he could have dragged it out for another episode or two and playing each path felt distinct enough. I guess if you’re only interested in one character then 3-4 hours of game after 7 months wouldn’t feel great.

I for one am glad a game/ story going into it’s fourth year of development doesn’t feel like it did in the first episode. The relationships have evolved and the story has developed. I can’t imagine anything more boring than after 8 episodes feeling like literally nothing you have done has mattered.

As for the free roam simulator business, I’d be truly surprised if we have another episode focussed around a single event. It’s possible episode 13 might be that way, so it has a similar feel to episode 5 and 9, but the Halloween party is something that was built up to for several episodes. Would have felt a bit flat IMO if it was Just one short free roam.

Any way I’ll leave it at that as we obviously disagree with each other.

 

[DanMotta]

Did scrappy mod stopped making the mod for Badik?

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I think she can still get out of it. The game didn't tell. But she probably haven't any police record yet. And the "prostitution" business, is something that she isn't the head, Burke is. Neither she is the head of the drug business. SHe is just a dealer, a small fry.

People like her can get away with it by giving information or testifying against them. These are the kind of people the police likes to use. Because they have something against them, but what they have against them is still minimal. She is a small fish. And she is discovering love. That will probably change her.

She as a first time offender wouldn't get a heavy penalty or anything. There are a lot of material to work on her case and I just wanna wait and see how DPC will work on it.

 

[buggs]

It played in the wrong place in the 9.0 version but if you play 9.1 I think It now plays at the end.

Really?! Thats so weird. Especially because the ending of the Christmas animation fits perfectly with the transition to the Tommy "jumpscare" at the beginning of the episode. If I had to guess, I'd say DPC had planned for the animation to be placed where it was all the way through release, and then before the patch ultimately decided that it was out of place and needed to be moved to the end.

Regardless, if it is set at the end of the episode in the newest patch then that is most likely a tease for next episode, however as I said before, it doesn't necessarily mean a time skip. In America, everyone celebrates Thanksgiving on the day, but the "Thanksgiving Season" is often outshined by the Christmas Season. At least a quarter (probably closer to half) of people start putting up Christmas decorations the day after Halloween, Mariah Carey's "All I Want for Christmas" starts charting on the week of November 1st, and the Christmas super-shopping event "Black Friday" is the literal night of Thanksgiving considering a lot of people camp out for it (or at least used to, since online shopping has become a lot more popular).

I think as a European telling a story set in the US it would be very strange not to do a thanksgiving event. In most media out of the states, thanksgiving is given similar significance to Christmas, if not greater due to the non denominational nature of it.

Well, he could still have a Thanksgiving Event, in fact he should. If DPC truly knew his stuff and was making a realistic depiction of the American lifestyle, Episode 10 could take place in the first 2 weeks of November and consist of houses filled with a mix of Thanksgiving and Christmas decorations and a general Christmas feeling, and then Episode 11 could consist of the next 2 weeks including Thanksgiving, where MC spends the day with his dad and possibly the LI of his choice. Then episode 12 or whatever would continue the Christmas feeling. It would kind of damage idea of having a special "Christmas episode", but it would be realistic to the "American Holiday Season", which in reality lasts 2 months.

 

[buggs]

Only now i realized that in the broccoli scene with Quinn the couple making out in front of them are Jill s friends cheating lol, christ this game has so many hidden clues and scenes i have to watch everything closely.

Well, that also explains why you can't get that scene if you went to dinner with Jill (I'm pretty sure) or else MC would recognize them lol.

 

[fikageci]

Should I play the game from the beggining again, and choose the"chick" path? Or everything is the Same if i choose this "path" ??

 

[TrainHardnett]

I think it's likely she gets herself through college by working at the Pink Rose and after graduating she will move to the other side of the country and start a new life... Burning all bridges, leaving everybody behind that know the Lily in college. Possibly she is getting feelings for MC, but for now she just warns him not to get attached to her. I think the warning itself says more about Lily's plans for life, either way it's a nice way of dropping the hint she is not looking for any commitment to MC.

Lily does say that she works at the Pink Rose for the money and that she wouldn't be in debt after collage like a certain someone, and that she is studying medicine. (so either a doctorate or a nurse)

 

[buggs]

Did scrappy mod stopped making the mod for Badik?

No, there's a new version and it's linked on the front page. Seems like Scrappy has kind of given up in his war against DPC though lol. Mod has a lot less capabilities than previous versions (even beyond just picking a path) and his version of the mod has all the same bugs as the original .90 vanilla version of the game. I think he just wanted to put out an update so peoples saves don't break and leave it at that.

 

[Darkwen]

I think the Christmas thing is more likely a tease for the end of the season rather than the end of the next episode. That would then make sense putting it at the start of the episode (which is also the start of the season) rather than the end (when there's already cliffhangers with Derek finding the cam and depending on route Bella and Nick or M/J and DIKs).

You could be right plus if you consider the start screen it shows MC at Maya and Derek's so thats got to be Thanksgiving and if we got two holidays in one episode that would be a lot of ground to cover the episode would at the very least would have to be double the size of 9 I don't think that going to happen ( I hope) so maybe we get two episodes next year one for post Halloween, new classes, and thanksgiving. The other for finals and Christmas break

 

[Naxer]

I think the Christmas thing is more likely a tease for the end of the season rather than the end of the next episode. That would then make sense putting it at the start of the episode (which is also the start of the season) rather than the end (when there's already cliffhangers with Derek finding the cam and depending on route Bella and Nick or M/J and DIKs).

Yep, I think that you got that right. Next episode will adress the "spy camera" issue, and all the fronts opened by every LI ending (Bella being watched leaving by Nick, Tommy wanting to murder us after seing his stepsis leaving...etc)

 

[Ilhares]

now I want to start from the beginning

Go to the Renpy save folder and delete BaDIK's persistent file to delete it
and go to %appdata%/roaming/renpy folder and delete persistent too

Correction : delete everything in the
%appdata%\RenPy\BaDIK*
folder, as well as your local install game\saves folder.

This goes to the roaming folder by default. (%localappdata% is for the local folder).

 

[PickerLewd]

Because it's really strange an appliance with low battery power is lightning up like a Xmas tree every few seconds....
Derek sleeping there about 1/3 of the time was not the reason it went off, he's been sleeping there for 6 or 7 weeks so what is different to all these nights before when it did not light up? You're using an argument why he witnessed it, that by itself has no connection to anything happening with the detector...

It's electrical, it needs power, so it's either batteries low or it is connected to the electricity network, it's really that easy.
Derek sleeping there or not is not a factor, the only thing that matters is he is there to witness the detector going off or not.
So what makes more sense? The batteries running out exactly that moment or the fact the power was off that day?
I still think it makes more sense it was a result of main power been off then batteries running out just that moment...

Edit : Seems there's spycam smoke detectors available on batteries or the normal electricity net. Most work with movement detection and wifi storage.
Possibly the mysterious black box is the storage device.... Technically it seems possible, (google : Amber, Latticeworks )
So another reason the detector goes off could be "wifi connection lost", however that still means batteries in the black box ended pretty much exactly at the time of the party.... So imho still very low chance of that happening exactly that moment....

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[vogelbeest]

My post :

Normally a fire detector works on batteries, however i doubt batteries are an option when there's a camera in there....
Possibly it's connected to the electricity network and it got an error due to main power switch off at the party....
Only explanation that's somewhat valid since running out of batteries that exact moment seems highly unlikely.

Your answer :

Why...? Lol It's no less likely than any other moment. It's not like there was some incredible significance behind that moment, it just happened to go off while Derek was in the room sleeping, which I could only assume is at least 1/3 of the time (8 hours out of 24)... Thats actually pretty damn likely lol.

Next :

I didn't say it was the reason it went off... Why would you assume the argument I was trying to make is that the light went off because Derek was there? That's like the farthest thing from what I said and doesnt even make sense for you to assume thats what I was trying to argue. What I did say is that it was fairly likely that Derek would be in his room when it went off considering Derek is in his room MORE THAN 1/3 of the day.

My argument : since running out of batteries that exact moment seems highly unlikely.

Your answer : it just happened to go off while Derek was in the room sleeping, which I could only assume is at least 1/3 of the time (8 hours out of 24)... Thats actually pretty damn likely lol.

Perhaps that is why this discussion seems te derail somewhat, no offense

In fact, I have a better question for you: if the light for the camera was going off because the electrical went out earlier in the day, why did it take so long for it to start going off? The power went out before Derek went to bed, but the light starts blinking after Derek is asleep, or at least attempting to sleep. Don't you think if it was related to the power turning off that it would be blinking since the power turned off? Don't you think Derek would have noticed that before getting into bed? But you think its less likely that the battery could have run out at any particular time?

Good point indeed and yes, i still think it's highly unlikely this camera batteries running low exactly that moment....
One possibility that comes to mind is the spycam works on movement so Derek activated it when entering his room.
These devices use wifi to send pictures to a storage, due to earlier power down possibly the router needs a reset....

The story needs to make sense, we have known there's a blackmailer, we have known there's a hidden camera in Derek's room, we know Vinnie switched the power off, was looking for something in MC's room, then camera is found by Derek...
All these things are connected and there is a logical explanation as to why and when everything happened like this....
It would be really sloppy explaining from DPC if the camera just went off since batteries low if you know this has been awaited for that long..... If it was totally random DPC could have let Derek find that camera in the start of episode 10...
Or i'm just hoping it makes sense lol, i dunno..

 

[TomUK]

In fact, I have a better question for you: if the light for the camera was going off because the electrical went out earlier in the day, why did it take so long for it to start going off? The power went out before Derek went to bed, but the light starts blinking after Derek is asleep, or at least attempting to sleep. Don't you think if it was related to the power turning off that it would be blinking since the power turned off? Don't you think Derek would have noticed that before getting into bed? But you think its less likely that the battery could have run out at any particular time?

The electricity didn't go out earlier in the day, it went out a few hours before the party finished by which time everyone and especially Derek was so pissed, he probably couldn't see shit plus the light most probably wouldn't have been turned off until he went to bed, that's even if he took himself to bed and someone didn't carry him there and just turned the light off as they left.

The electricity going out probably reset the camera and it's waiting to be reconnected to whatever Wi-Fi network it's connected to, which is why it was flashing, the same way a digital alarm clock flashes when it resets.

 

[JohnnyBlazePT]

I think she can still get out of it. The game didn't tell. But she probably haven't any police record yet. And the "prostitution" business, is something that she isn't the head, Burke is. Neither she is the head of the drug business. SHe is just a dealer, a small fry.

People like her can get away with it by giving information or testifying against them. These are the kind of people the police likes to use. Because they have something against them, but what they have against them is still minimal. She is a small fish. And she is discovering love. That will probably change her.

She as a first time offender wouldn't get a heavy penalty or anything. There are a lot of material to work on her case and I just wanna wait and see how DPC will work on it.

it would be funny if it was quinn whom was working for the cops
maybe to bail out her father, it would be a nice plot twist

 

[TomUK]

it would be funny if it was quinn whom was working for the cops
maybe to bail out her father, it would be a nice plot twist

The Quinn route is my now favourite route, took me a while to get past all the locks to actually get to finish Halloween in her bed and then what she asks the MC to help her with and the phone message the MC sees on her phone. It's going to be interesting indeed.

 

[LMMFAO]

If we can end the game being with Nicole or Quinn I'll die a happy gamer.