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Probably not, because too many people would lose their minds that we can see her have sex with other dudes. It wouldn't matter that that was before. Girls having sex lives outside the of MC is too much for some people, and I have zero doubts that some weirdos would take this as the justification they need to harass DPC.

Which is a shame, because she's hot, and the hottest of the three girls you can end up in your bed with at the end of Episode 9. She's also got that broody goth girl vibe, which this game is severely lacking. Riona's the closest we have, but she's a peppy Goth.

Nothing confirmed, I don't think. I'm just assuming. Which is very silly of me, to be honest, she she's a cutie, so she's probably has some experience at least. Not impossible though.

On the one hand, I get it, cause more than any other type of game, players tend to truly personify their protagonist in AVNs. Which is why you choose the MCs name in almost all of them.

On the other fucking hand, it's so pathetic and reductive that people feel so threatened other male characters. And BaD, is actually one of the few games that HAVE male characters. So many games, there are no other males at all.

For my personal preference, if I play a game where every girl is a virgin and every guy is a sexless non threatening idiot, I'm pretty bored by the first five minutes.
 
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Probably not, because too many people would lose their minds that we can see her have sex with other dudes. It wouldn't matter that that was before. Girls having sex lives outside the of MC is too much for some people, and I have zero doubts that some weirdos would take this as the justification they need to harass DPC.

Which is a shame, because she's hot, and the hottest of the three girls you can end up in your bed with at the end of Episode 9. She's also got that broody goth girl vibe, which this game is severely lacking. Riona's the closest we have, but she's a peppy Goth.

hmmmm.........someone should inform those people that mona, rio, quinn, sara, mel, cammy, and at least a few of the strippers are prostitutes. doing something strange for some change = not just fucking you! unless i have that wrong......hope i dont, cuz if i do, it would make some past experiences very awkward. lmfao
 

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On the one hand, I get it, cause more than any other type of game, players tend to truly personify their protagonist in AVNs. Which is why you choose the MCs name in almost all of them.

On the other fucking hand, it's so pathetic and reductive that people feel so threatened other male characters. And BaD, is actually one of the few games that HAVE male characters. So many games, there are no other males at all.

For my personal preference, if I play a game where every girl is a virgin and every guy is a sexless non threatening idiot, I'm pretty bored by the first five minutes.
I mean I don't want to see other male characters bone. If I am playing a game, I like to immerse into them which is why I mostly avoid Ntr/multiple protagonist games. I do agree with you that male characters are important but most developer doesn't know how to write them. They are either there to get cucked or cuck you. How many games here has a male characters that actually act like a friend/Derek. Also, I don't know what you mean by sexless or virgin shit? Most games li are full blown dumb sluts(who is for some reason become loyal after having sex with Mc or still remain a slut) and male characters as I said are either here to cuck you or get cucked lmfao.
 

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I mean I don't want to see other male characters bone. If I am playing a game, I like to immerse into them which is why I mostly avoid Ntr/multiple protagonist games. I do agree with you that male characters are important but most developer doesn't know how to write them. They are either there to get cucked or cuck you. How many games here has a male characters that actually act like a friend/Derek. Also, I don't know what you mean by sexless or virgin shit? Most games li are full blown dumb sluts(who is for some reason become loyal after having sex with Mc or still remain a slut) and male characters as I said are either here to cuck you or get cucked lmfao.
Here are the contrasting values that create the male character genocide we see in most games.

1. You don't want to see other guys bone.
2. I assume you want the option of romantically pursuing any female on screen. IE. Most players don't like it, when a female character is NOT dateable. They HATE it when some other male character is or can date a non available female character.
3. Most players self project onto the MC, and so they want the MC to be successful, to have ag next and be the main driver of the plot. They don't want to feel challenged or threatened by another male (or even female) character.


There's more, but let's focus on these three.

Because you 'dont want to see other guys bone' and you want at least the option to choose any or every girl you see, this means the other male characters have nothing to do. I'm a mainstream game, if you saw two side characters being cute together, you.might root for them, or even try and help them get together. But in an AVN, most players are trying to gobble.up girls like it's Hungry Fucking Hippos. And since there's only so much screentime, male characters are often relegated to either antagonist or the MCs hype man.

As for dumb sluts turning into loyal girlfri nds for the MC, it's a symptom of the same problem.

It's not that the dev doesn't know how to write them, it's that player egos are so fucking fragile, they can't handle reality. It's a game, don't put so much of yourself into it. If Fuckface and Derek both tried to seduce Sage and she choose Derek, that wouldn't be NTR. Even if we saw them fuck, it wouldn't be NTR.

NTR is a very specific fetish, where the player is enjoying the humiliation and betrayal of being cheated on, usually by a superior man. It's getting off on being cucked.

Storytelling requires winners and losers. Good storytelling requires the MC to also both win and lose. In most games this simply never happens. Even in BaD, the only girls you lose are the ones you choose not to pursue. There are, at best a few temporary setbacks, like the Maya Josy twist.

This kind of handholding for sensitive players, means devs can't use the full range of storytelling.

So don't blame the devs. Blame yourself.
 

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Here are the contrasting values that create the male character genocide we see in most games.

1. You don't want to see other guys bone.
2. I assume you want the option of romantically pursuing any female on screen. IE. Most players don't like it, when a female character is NOT dateable. They HATE it when some other male character is or can date a non available female character.
3. Most players self project onto the MC, and so they want the MC to be successful, to have ag next and be the main driver of the plot. They don't want to feel challenged or threatened by another male (or even female) character.


There's more, but let's focus on these three.

Because you 'dont want to see other guys bone' and you want at least the option to choose any or every girl you see, this means the other male characters have nothing to do. I'm a mainstream game, if you saw two side characters being cute together, you.might root for them, or even try and help them get together. But in an AVN, most players are trying to gobble.up girls like it's Hungry Fucking Hippos. And since there's only so much screentime, male characters are often relegated to either antagonist or the MCs hype man.

As for dumb sluts turning into loyal girlfri nds for the MC, it's a symptom of the same problem.

It's not that the dev doesn't know how to write them, it's that player egos are so fucking fragile, they can't handle reality. It's a game, don't put so much of yourself into it. If Fuckface and Derek both tried to seduce Sage and she choose Derek, that wouldn't be NTR. Even if we saw them fuck, it wouldn't be NTR.

NTR is a very specific fetish, where the player is enjoying the humiliation and betrayal of being cheated on, usually by a superior man. It's getting off on being cucked.

Storytelling requires winners and losers. Good storytelling requires the MC to also both win and lose. In most games this simply never happens. Even in BaD, the only girls you lose are the ones you choose not to pursue. There are, at best a few temporary setbacks, like the Maya Josy twist.

This kind of handholding for sensitive players, means devs can't use the full range of storytelling.

So don't blame the devs. Blame yourself.
Couldn't have said it better myself
 

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There is also the fact that these guys are more toxic than a pack of rabbit hound. Look at this thread about a recent game https://f95zone.to/threads/not-going-back-ch-1-cicada.166812/, half of the talk is about NTR because one guy bragged that he fucked a possible LI, and I'm not joking here. Because a girl mentioned that this same LI is hot. Yes, people are scared that the girl would steal their LI...
I've noticed that most people on here are all on the hunt for what ever fantasy they can't have in real life. It's a rare minority of users who are actually literately inclined and who are looking for actual substantial story content.

Hell, it's even safe to say that a majority of creators on here haven't even read anything beyond comic books. So when we find something as complex as BaDIK, they'll all flock here trying to have DPC cater to their desires. DPC might not be Stephen King, but he's certainly one of the better story tellers.

Most creators on here are quite savvy technically, but that's about where it ends, because they see easy dollar signs. So they slap together something that looks decent, but deliver an empty story. I've seen it over and over again. A good idea in the 'preface', but 10 mins into them you quickly realize they couldn't even spell "literature" if they're lives depended on it. So they revolve mostly around NTR and other fetishes, because it's easy.

I've easily played over 75 titles on this site, and I can practically count less than a dozen that are actually worth reading through. It's pretty sad really.
 

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I can understand DPC and why he caved in, look what happened to Nyx dev of Intertwined. Some people just cant handle that some pixelated guy will steal their pixelated waifu, and yes I am fully aware of how stupid this sounds.
 
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I've noticed that most people on here are all on the hunt for what ever fantasy they can't have in real life. It's a rare minority of users who are actually literately inclined and who are looking for actual substantial story content.

Hell, it's even safe to say that a majority of creators on here haven't even read anything beyond comic books. So when we find something as complex as BaDIK, they'll all flock here trying to have DPC cater to their desires. DPC might not be Stephen King, but he's certainly one of the better story tellers.

Most creators on here are quite savvy technically, but that's about where it ends, because they see easy dollar signs. So they slap together something that looks decent, but deliver an empty story. I've seen it over and over again. A good idea in the 'preface', but 10 mins into them you quickly realize they couldn't even spell "literature" if they're lives depended on it. So they revolve mostly around NTR and other fetishes, because it's easy.

I've easily played over 75 titles on this site, and I can practically count less than a dozen that are actually worth reading through. It's pretty sad really.
I don't think BAD is complex at all, but it does have better story then most porn games. Porn games are a niche market and if some actual writers started getting into it then it would be so much better off. Porn game players have the mindset of teens that like crappy shows like Riverdale, if a story is remotely edgy on here then basically they will call it a "masterpiece"
 

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Here are the contrasting values that create the male character genocide we see in most games.

1. You don't want to see other guys bone.
2. I assume you want the option of romantically pursuing any female on screen. IE. Most players don't like it, when a female character is NOT dateable. They HATE it when some other male character is or can date a non available female character.
3. Most players self project onto the MC, and so they want the MC to be successful, to have ag next and be the main driver of the plot. They don't want to feel challenged or threatened by another male (or even female) character.


There's more, but let's focus on these three.

Because you 'dont want to see other guys bone' and you want at least the option to choose any or every girl you see, this means the other male characters have nothing to do. I'm a mainstream game, if you saw two side characters being cute together, you.might root for them, or even try and help them get together. But in an AVN, most players are trying to gobble.up girls like it's Hungry Fucking Hippos. And since there's only so much screentime, male characters are often relegated to either antagonist or the MCs hype man.

As for dumb sluts turning into loyal girlfri nds for the MC, it's a symptom of the same problem.

It's not that the dev doesn't know how to write them, it's that player egos are so fucking fragile, they can't handle reality. It's a game, don't put so much of yourself into it. If Fuckface and Derek both tried to seduce Sage and she choose Derek, that wouldn't be NTR. Even if we saw them fuck, it wouldn't be NTR.

NTR is a very specific fetish, where the player is enjoying the humiliation and betrayal of being cheated on, usually by a superior man. It's getting off on being cucked.

Storytelling requires winners and losers. Good storytelling requires the MC to also both win and lose. In most games this simply never happens. Even in BaD, the only girls you lose are the ones you choose not to pursue. There are, at best a few temporary setbacks, like the Maya Josy twist.

This kind of handholding for sensitive players, means devs can't use the full range of storytelling.

So don't blame the devs. Blame yourself.
How does A girl in this game picking someone else to date make this game better? not only does that not make sense in the context of the game, not of the men in the story have show any traits desirable to women since the start of the game. NGL if you actually want Derek to be able to seduce one of you're girls and steal them you're the one advocating for trash storytelling cause irl he would pull no hoes
 
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Most complex thing about BAD is not getting mad at having only 5 $$$$$ for 90% of the game, then having to come up with 15+ $ in one episode.
 

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Most complex thing about BAD is not getting mad at having only 5 $$$$$ for 90% of the game, then having to come up with 15+ $ in one episode.
Edit the 00console.rpy file, set config.console = True

Then in the game, shift-o, then money=5 [enter] exit [enter]
Buy everything in the restaurant, repeat as needed
 

Anthony11553

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Here are the contrasting values that create the male character genocide we see in most games.

It's not that the dev doesn't know how to write them, it's that player egos are so fucking fragile, they can't handle reality. It's a game, don't put so much of yourself into it. If Fuckface and Derek both tried to seduce Sage and she choose Derek, that wouldn't be NTR. Even if we saw them fuck, it wouldn't be NTR.

So don't blame the devs. Blame yourself.
Also that's just not true, ntr has multiple defined meanings and one of them is "love interest" so in that situation it would be ntr cuse Sage would be the mc's love interest.
 

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Edit the 00console.rpy file, set config.console = True

Then in the game, shift-o, then money=5 [enter] exit [enter]
Buy everything in the restaurant, repeat as needed
Money has never been an issue tbh, but it is still annoying that there's a hard cap for most of the game with little to spend it on, then in one episode there's a lot to buy at once.
 

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Money has never been an issue tbh, but it is still annoying that there's a hard cap for most of the game with little to spend it on, then in one episode there's a lot to buy at once.
honestly i have no idea how people had the money for that riona thing at the start of episode 5 i never replayed the game focusing on getting money but i'm always short when that scence comes up.
 

nuzzyfipples

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honestly i have no idea how people had the money for that riona thing at the start of episode 5 i never replayed the game focusing on getting money but i'm always short when that scence comes up.
I always give her the full 5, because you can get 5 back pretty quickly. I have full stats from Brawler by then, so there's 2 $, then one from Shuffle, and there's 2 extra $ laying around on the 2nd floor, one in Tybalt's room and the other in the room with the suit.

I don't think there's much to purchase prior to the party, so I always start that roam with the full $5. I purchase Magnar's money for A's the second I see him, so that's always a steady flow of cash. 100's are easy to get, even without the guide. I've never bought the boosters or cheats, either.
 
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