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What I dislike most about the game:

1)Tybalt is too cartoonish a character. It's hard to take him seriously when all we do the whole game is make fun of him. And he has to be taken seriously when the quest to blackmail Tybalt begins. He just talks, but to back up his words he could send a lawyer or a statement of claim and then we could realize that he's not kidding.

2)Abrupt transitions between character story arcs. For example, there is a story arc of Sage and MC just being sex friends and there is a story arc of MC and Sage in a relationship. There is no smooth transition between them, everything happened abruptly and roughly. On the contrary, Bell's arc is generally structured well and a smooth and logical development of the relationship from cold attitude to affection and love.

3) Useless Characters. I realize that a large number of characters increase immersiveness, but there are useless characters whose presence in the game is very hard to explain. For example, why do you need Becky when her role can be duplicated by Sarah or Ariet? If DPС needs Maya to have a person from the past, then a similar role could be played by Derek, for example. The same could be said for the dorm girls, but they would probably play some important role in the story.

4)Too much branching. The game has tons of variables and choices that don't make any sense at all. The ending with Sarah and Melanie is pointless because they obviously don't have their own romantic line and sex with them could have happened at the party. Why was the "Jill's orgasm" variable even necessary? That there would be a separate subplot in the game where Jill doesn't like sex? What's the point? What's the point of making the game so complicated?

5)The incompleteness of some of the storylines. I realize that the game will probably provide answers in the future, but it's been 2 seasons and most of the questions remain unanswered. The game answers the most minor questions, and the game asks new questions. For example, Chad's arc is still not complete. We don't know who the blackmailer was, why he let Troy get beaten up in episode 1, what his relationship with Sage was, etc.

6) A branch of others. I've said before that the Others branch is a very bloated branch with a lot of girls with their own quests. To unlock all the content of this branch, you will have to replay it several times. For example, in episode 9, the Others branch has 5 endings (Quinn, Lily and Envy, Melanie and Sarah, Night on the Couch, and Night with Vixen).

7) Replayability for the sake of replayability. To unlock absolutely all the content of episode 9 you need to play it 6 times.
My five cents, with some I agree, some moments have counter-arguments.

1. Partially agree. He is a caricature, but such people exist in real life. Tybalt of this such banter over a typical "prep spoiled kid" from a very rich family.
That's what I'd like to see - Tybalt PRESENTING A REAL THREAT TO MC. So that there was a challenge to the player on his part and Tybalt really worked as an antagonist. Blackmail challenge seemed like a real danger until a mild denouement came. It's like threatening with a fake gun.

2.If we remove this bullshit moment about "rebound guy", then Sage's route is very well balanced. Their relationship smoothly moves from just mercantile interests, to friendship for sex, and eventually a romantic interest appears. Don't forget that Sage is a very closed person and it is difficult for her to express feelings. Plus she's pretty wild and we're definitely not going to see "vanilla romance".

3. Agree, I think everyone have his own list of useless characters and me too. If we talk about the opinion of the majority, when we are unanimous, then the most useless character is Madame Rose.
Becky here is just for hate, Arieth - comedian relief.

4. I like how big and branched the game is. If DPC can handle it, I support his path. But I have to put up with the fact that the game is getting bigger and takes more time for development - it happens for all branched games. But hey, it's not without reason that this is the most popular game in the genre.

5.Yes, there are many mysteries and DPC is clearly not going to reveal the cards quickly. Like you said, we're halfway through. I don't think we'll get all but many answers by the end of Season 3.

6-7. Me with my 22 runs say hi. And it is not a record, Toobextra and Kpyna played much more.
 

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What I dislike most about the game:

1)Tybalt is too cartoonish a character. It's hard to take him seriously when all we do the whole game is make fun of him. And he has to be taken seriously when the quest to blackmail Tybalt begins. He just talks, but to back up his words he could send a lawyer or a statement of claim and then we could realize that he's not kidding.

2)Abrupt transitions between character story arcs. For example, there is a story arc of Sage and MC just being sex friends and there is a story arc of MC and Sage in a relationship. There is no smooth transition between them, everything happened abruptly and roughly. On the contrary, Bell's arc is generally structured well and a smooth and logical development of the relationship from cold attitude to affection and love.

3) Useless Characters. I realize that a large number of characters increase immersiveness, but there are useless characters whose presence in the game is very hard to explain. For example, why do you need Becky when her role can be duplicated by Sarah or Ariet? If DPС needs Maya to have a person from the past, then a similar role could be played by Derek, for example. The same could be said for the dorm girls, but they would probably play some important role in the story.

4)Too much branching. The game has tons of variables and choices that don't make any sense at all. The ending with Sarah and Melanie is pointless because they obviously don't have their own romantic line and sex with them could have happened at the party. Why was the "Jill's orgasm" variable even necessary? That there would be a separate subplot in the game where Jill doesn't like sex? What's the point? What's the point of making the game so complicated?

5)The incompleteness of some of the storylines. I realize that the game will probably provide answers in the future, but it's been 2 seasons and most of the questions remain unanswered. The game answers the most minor questions, and the game asks new questions. For example, Chad's arc is still not complete. We don't know who the blackmailer was, why he let Troy get beaten up in episode 1, what his relationship with Sage was, etc.

6) A branch of others. I've said before that the Others branch is a very bloated branch with a lot of girls with their own quests. To unlock all the content of this branch, you will have to replay it several times. For example, in episode 9, the Others branch has 5 endings (Quinn, Lily and Envy, Melanie and Sarah, Night on the Couch, and Night with Vixen).

7) Replayability for the sake of replayability. To unlock absolutely all the content of episode 9 you need to play it 6 times.
1) I have seen guys with pictures of their crushes in their wallets (not sure about watermelons). I have seen guys being obnoxious to get the girl's attention (the being loud part, but not playing cello). I have seen guys posting empty seat at dinner table on Valentine's day on their social media. Tybalt might be a bit over the top, but based on my experience it's not that cartoonish (unfortunately).

2) Sage was with Chad, then got MC as a friend (possibly with benefits). Then Chad broke up with her. Then MC can get her as a girlfriend and there is even the "I don't want to be the rebound guy" period. The relationship might progress fast but I wouldn't call it abrupt.

3) I, on the other hand, prefer that the game has more side/"useless" characters instead of the "x girls to date + my friend" I have seen in a lot games. This makes the game feel more alive, or immersive (as you would put it).

4) This depends on your definition of "branching". We have 4 official branches for the main girls plus 1 for "others". As for Jill, I assume you mean the Ep7 scene after "Fight for Jill" and I agree with you, I don't think that scene was needed. Her mental battle between wanting you there and making you leave was good enough.

5) The game is still incomplete.

6) The branch has different endings, but your choice of girl(s) at the end might not result in additional branching (separate story line for each of them). They might converge back into one "others" branch (possibly with you getting a girl at the very end). Also you have to have some content for players who don't want (or won't get) any of the main girls. Staying single and playing the field is a solid option; for example, other games use "backup/fallback girl", usually a childhood friend, that you will end up with should you fail to get any of the "main" girls.

7) This comes with the branching and is kind of standard for AVN/dating sim games. And it also makes sense - at some point the game splits into different story branches based on the selected girl in which you deal with problems related to the specific girl. Also story-based games tend to have low replayability, this is a way to provide some so customers get more value for their money.
 

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Wait Quinn won a best character poll?
I mean she is good
But was my angel even in the poll?

Either way that poll is obviously rigged or fake news

Maya is best girl ever
But then we all know that don't we
It's obvious why Best Girl didn't win. The pollster purposefully misspelled her name ("Rionna") which made all her fans not recognize her as being on the poll so they just voted for some random skank instead of the true princess who deserves to be cuddled and saved. :love:
 

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I must disagree with you on your example of unexpected transitions in character story arcs though the point itself holds merit. Sage's story is perfectly natural to me, it only feels abrupt if you disregard the whole drama with Chad and the time skips. She doesn't just jump into a relationship with Fuckface, she breaks up with Chad then over a month later she agrees once asked to start dating our boy. They build up a strong bond in the 8 episodes before they finally decide to give things a try and it's made very clear how since we actively participate in those chemistry-building moments. The truly abrupt part is episodes 1 and 2 of their relationship but when I was in college I dated an older girl who I met in a similarly blunt situation so it doesn't throw me off as much as the other MG's. There are definitely disconnected transitions that happen though, like the whole Maya and Josy debacle in episode 5 which has been recounted probably more times than there are pages in this thread so I will digress.
We don't really know when the turn from friend to boyfriend happened in MC's mind. Back in episode 5 he liked fucking Sage and in episode 7 he gives Sage an ultimatum. Actually all his words to Sage are true, but we don't see the inner monologue of why he wants to be with Sage. That's actually true of all the girls. Why Bella, Jill, Quinn, etc. A few lines and the relationship would have been much more believable.
Your third complaint confuses me. Useless characters? You literally said it yourself; they are there for immersive purposes, to make the world seem alive. Every character doesn't require a fully formed reason for existing, just like you probably don't know why your neighbor lives next to you. To follow your suggestions, however, would certainly make the BADik universe blander and less interesting. DPC is not George RR Martin though; he's not giving every character their own POV. If every character directly affects the narrative that would only make your next point even more futile. This is an erotic college dating sim game, not a fantasy book series examining the intricacies of societal hierarchies interacting with the supernatural in a mysterious world-ending scenario. Little nods to other people existing and having little to do with the main plot is a mark of genuine worldbuilding which needs to be celebrated in my opinion, not condemned.
How badly does the plot need Becky? Answer: none. She is introduced into the plot for one reason: to be a female alternative to Tybalt. It would be funny if Tybalt and Becky ended up getting together. The whole free tuition thing could have been taken over by Sally or Karen, for example. Besides I think the blonde vixen girl is a more interesting character than Becky.
 
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Dark Silence

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It's obvious why Best Girl didn't win. The pollster purposefully misspelled her name ("Rionna") which made all her fans not recognize her as being on the poll so they just voted for some random skank instead of the true princess who deserves to be cuddled and saved. :love:
Fixed :p :
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I've been in this forum for a while but only started reading the comments in the last few days, and I'm actually shocked about how many people liked Quinn, what's the appeal? Genuine question.
Chances are it's just 1 person with multiple accounts arguing with himself to elevate Quinn.
'cause I don't see it either.
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I've been in this forum for a while but only started reading the comments in the last few days, and I'm actually shocked about how many people liked Quinn, what's the appeal? Genuine question.
I'm sorry. I sincerely feel sorry for those people who do not understand or do not see the dazzling beauty of Quinn. :( These people are in the dark. There is no point in explaining the obvious. You will not be able to explain to a blind man all the beauty of sunlight. No matter how hard you try.
 

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I've been in this forum for a while but only started reading the comments in the last few days, and I'm actually shocked about how many people liked Quinn, what's the appeal? Genuine question.
I'm sorry. I sincerely feel sorry for those people who do not understand or do not see the dazzling beauty of Quinn.
Well, as with all the girls in this game, Quinn's hot. But to me, her attitude sucks. Plus she's a fuckin bully to my girl Riona.
 
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I'm sorry. I sincerely feel sorry for those people who do not understand or do not see the dazzling beauty of Quinn. :( These people are in the dark. There is no point in explaining the obvious. You will not be able to explain to a blind man all the beauty of sunlight. No matter how hard you try.
You can also get cancer if you stay too long in the sunlight.
Just sayin'
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Wait a minute, you're saying there are fishy votes for Quinn, and for Sage. What these doubts are based on is not clear. Apparently in the short time interval between the voices. The fact that people from different countries can vote almost synchronously is not taken into account. And now you've already identified the votes for Quinn as fake, but for Sage only - fishy. So, having as you say - fishy votes for Quinn and Sage, nevertheless you give the victory to Sage. It doesn't look too fair. No. It looks like real discrimination. Quinn's rights are being grossly violated.
We only have 269 votes in three days. One person can vote for multiple girls at the same time. So this doesn't mean we have 269 voters. If I look at the stamps, for instance, there are 10 votes for 10 different girls at the same time. This means only one person voted. Considering this number of voters is probably less than 100. You can look at the time stamps in the pdf files and try to figure it out yourself. Poll lasted about three days so 100 votes / (3 day * 24 day/hour) =~ 1.4 votes per hour. Seeing recurring votes (more than 10-20) in every 30sec-1min for Quinn where the average vote rate is 1.4 per hour, don't you think it is fishy? If Quinn's votes concentrated at the beginning of the poll when I first shared, it might have made sense (still it's too much for a small-scale poll like this).

You can check out the pdf file that I share. It has all the time stamps, you can try to figure out fishy votes yourself. This is my interpretation of the poll. As a Riona fan, I wanted Riona to win, actually. The first vote is mine by the way.


Translation: I didn't want Quinn to win so I've come up with a reason that disqualifies her, Sage had the same problem but I like her so I'll let her win.


For the record I didn't vote multiple times, I voted once for Sage, Quinn, Rio, Josy and Cam.
You're trolling me, right? I'm not a Sage fan :rolleyes:

It's obvious why Best Girl didn't win. The pollster purposefully misspelled her name ("Rionna") which made all her fans not recognize her as being on the poll so they just voted for some random skank instead of the true princess who deserves to be cuddled and saved. :love:
OMG. I really did misspell her name. I can't live with this shame. I changed it but it's too late :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
The pdf file is also incorrect. My god, what have I done? How can I call myself a Rio fan at this point :cry: How can I repent my sin.........


I'm sorry. I sincerely feel sorry for those people who do not understand or do not see the dazzling beauty of Quinn. :( These people are in the dark. There is no point in explaining the obvious. You will not be able to explain to a blind man all the beauty of sunlight. No matter how hard you try.
I don't have any problem with Quinn, I actually tried only Quinn route once. She is a tough stone to crack but she opens up to the MC. Overall, she has an interesting storyline. However, Riona has a different place in my heart and I don't like how Quinn treats her.
 
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