VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[ChipLecsap]

She is very insecure, afraid to make decisions and overall a coward, and this is not hate, this is a reality that many Josy fans admit (Hi Megenos). Why is it unclear, because I don’t see any strong life traumas or reasons that could lead to this. Family? Well, things aren't so bad for her. Dad adores her, yes, there are problems with Monica and her stepbrother, but it's not too serious like in other MGs families. Maybe a past failed relationship? Unanswered questions.
Josy urgently needs her own storyline and personal growth, otherwise there will be more people who adhere to “boring and basic”.

as a Josy fan I disagree with the Coward word. That is not an accurate description. the problem with the rest is that is just a big a big Assumption based on so little that we know of. I would like to see more before I make an assessment. for example all we knew about Jill was her dead sister, Her alcoholic father, and frigid mother is a totally new information.
we don't know enough, we didn't see enough of Josy's family dynamic , let alone about Josy.

but one thing is right She desperately need some Focus on her.

 

[Tremonia]

Once again, being a Chick with Quinn is a dead end.

Fixed it for you...

 

[azz111]

I don't think anyone is a bad guy here. Just different perspectives.

moonhowler1972 is clearly against domestic abuse. Everyone agrees that men abusing women is wrong.

Karamba believes in self-defense if absolutely necessary. That women are not exempt from retaliation if they do evil.

azz111 states that women are moral agents, and their abuse should not be treated with kid gloves. Again, their evil should not be tolerated.

All the above is true. It's not easy to judge. There are so many variables in every situation.

Being a DIK, has so many variables that affect situations in the game. DIK or CHIK status. Past decisions. etc

Real life is way more complicated with many more variables. Best not to judge one another so easily. Respect each other's perspective, learn, and move on. I vote for peace and salutations to all.

Well said.

 

[ChipLecsap]

To me, that's the strangest part of Josy's character.
She has great communication skills, is easy to get along with people and has a lot of friends, but at the same time she has a lot of complexes about her height, hobbies and even the fact that she cums before her partner.
I realize that people are not robots and have their complexes, but I can see the main vector of Josy's development right now. That vector is called "pity me, I'm so sweet and insecure."
Women's tears, unfortunately, work. As soon as a guy sees a girl weak and unprotected, his protector instinct kicks in and he wants to protect, hug, comfort. This instinct is what the entire character of Josy is built on.

I'm sorry, I gave you a facepalm before I realized you describe Maya perfectly.

 

[1000Spiders]

All right, message received, I'll drop it.

Good call. Your opponent is using rhetoric - all emotional arguments and presenting his opinions as facts - meanwhile, you are utilizing logical arguments and even citing studies, none of which mean a damn thing to him. Put him on your ignore list with the rest of the idiots and move on. That old saying about not arguing with a fool because he'll drag you down to his level and beat you through experience? Applies here.

Also, I like choice #2. Cool pattern.

In this however, you are dead wrong. #1 is clearly the best

 

[KАRАMBA]

Fixed it for you...

The only thing that needed to be fixed was Queen Lydia's bitch's brain.
But it seems to be an impossible task.

 

[Darkwen]

She is very insecure, afraid to make decisions and overall a coward, and this is not hate, this is a reality that many Josy fans admit (Hi Megenos). Why is it unclear, because I don’t see any strong life traumas or reasons that could lead to this. Family? Well, things aren't so bad for her. Dad adores her, yes, there are problems with Monica and her stepbrother, but it's not too serious like in other MGs families. Maybe a past failed relationship? Unanswered questions.
Josy urgently needs her own storyline and personal growth, otherwise there will be more people who adhere to “boring and basic”.

~

I would also like to imagine how other girls who rejected him react to Oscar's crowing.
-Sage would have simply knocked him out with one punch (Although he is a loser and he would not have the courage to approach her, same with Quinn)
-Isabella would respond with a cool comeback, making Oscar feel insignificant.
-Jill, well, this is Jill from those episodes. She would have to be defended and Oscar thrown out. Ep.10 Jill could easily hit the balls.
-It’s the same with Maya, she needs a white knight.
-Zoey would have just laughed at him, the DIK version would have added a couple of punches, like with firefighter.

Sorry but your totally wrong. Josy is in fact brave in does have her own story apart from Maya. I really don't understand the own boring and basic thing because there isn't thing boring or basic about Josy at this point I have to assume it a bad joke because it impossible to play in come to that conclusion and mean it.
While we don't know where Josy's insecurities come from yet its enough to know she has them which basic people would not have these struggles. Josy is no coward there is not single girl in the game as brave or braver then Josy, try to name one you cannot. It not Sage she scared to fight for MC if she loses him Josy is willing to lose everything even Maya for MC, path or not on path. It's not Bella she keeps pretty much everyone out of her life but Jill. It's not Jill I don't even have to say anything here. It's not even Maya because it takes Josy or mc or someone to solve her problems for her and to ask for help something Maya doesn't do. And it isn't Zoey she ran away with no plan when Josy was thinking of moving to the east coast she actually had a plan or at least the start of one.
In 10 episode's we seen Josy fuck mc in her dad's bed, consider moving to east coast, kick tommy in the nut's, out smart Quinn more then anyone else, enter in throuple and make clear her love for mc even if not on path, She is the only reason Maya loan problem could be coming to a end , Battles with her own inner problems if we don't where they come from. Basic that is bullshit she is anything but basic, a coward don't make me laugh there no one braver, boring have you seen this girl in bed. Josy's part of the story may not get a lot of air time it might seem but it only a matter of time before it becomes clear and a lot of people will look foolish.
Brave. Story. Queen

 

[1000Spiders]

To me, that's the strangest part of Josy's character.
She has great communication skills, is easy to get along with people and has a lot of friends, but at the same time she has a lot of complexes about her height, hobbies and even the fact that she cums before her partner.
I realize that people are not robots and have their complexes, but I can see the main vector of Josy's development right now. That vector is called "pity me, I'm so sweet and insecure."
Women's tears, unfortunately, work. As soon as a guy sees a girl weak and unprotected, his protector instinct kicks in and he wants to protect, hug, comfort. This instinct is what the entire character of Josy is built on.

Works, too. Jill's path may be my favorite path, but Josy is best girl. (by just a hair, though)
Maybe we can patch things up with Tommy next episode when we both take ol' Oscar out behind the woodshed for some more attitude adjustment.

 

[azz111]

Good call. Your opponent is using rhetoric - all emotional arguments and presenting his opinions as facts - meanwhile, you are utilizing logical arguments and even citing studies, none of which mean a damn thing to him. Put him on your ignore list with the rest of the idiots and move on. That old saying about not arguing with a fool because he'll drag you down to his level and beat you through experience? Applies here.


In this however, you are dead wrong. #1 is clearly the best

Lol, you had me until "#1 is clearly the best". Maybe you're right, could be, but "CLEARLY"?!

 

[beastfan]

Hey guys, I keep reading about this game being one of the better lewd games to play, however, I've tried one or two Renpy games and found the Visual Novel style pretty boring. Is this game different from your regular Renpy games?

 

[NebulousShooter]

Jill's path may be my favorite path

 

[1000Spiders]

"CLEARLY"?!

Objectively.

 

[DiscoStU4U]

Hey guys, I keep reading about this game being one of the better lewd games to play, however, I've tried one or two Renpy games and found the Visual Novel style pretty boring. Is this game different from your regular Renpy games?

Its still a RenPy VN, no UnrealEngine no nothing. But for me a good one.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

I think what crashed Josy the most in that situation was, that she might have enjoyed "the talk" (being talkative), while the guy just listened and with every word from Josy he drew his conclusion, yet waited to pretty much to worst spot to spill his opinion.
Josy, as insecure as she appears, she just tries to please. That guy was just the worst case scenario for her happening at that moment.
I would like to not go so far to call her "basic", because the only thing "basic" about her might actually be her "about me". Ohter things we don't really know, except for the fact, that she is in a troublesome relationship (which isn't that basic at all).

She might have a problem with dealing with critics, but that guy willingly did the damage.

In most of my playthroughs I regard her as a friend, a good one, and sobs like that (I forgot his name...) they at least get thrown out.

as a Josy fan I disagree with the Coward word. That is not an accurate description. the problem with the rest is that is just a big a big Assumption based on so little that we know of. I would like to see more before I make an assessment. for example all we knew about Jill was her dead sister, Her alcoholic father, and frigid mother is a totally new information.
we don't know enough, we didn't see enough of Josy's family dynamic , let alone about Josy.

but one thing is right She desperately need some Focus on her.

She needs some serious personal growth and not just be a plot addition for Maya, of that I'm sure. Find out more about her past, what happened to her and what made her like this. Plus, the character needs some kind of personal problem that she copes with and grows. The fact that she has been in love with MC throughout the game, her current feature, is so-so. Because it turns off a lot of people, we can see it in other AVNs - people don't like girls who pursue MCs.

As for her cowardice, well, she is afraid of everything. Afraid to talk to MC and Maya that she is not satisfied with the “no strings attached” relationship, because she is afraid to upset them. And Tremolo said a long time ago that the problems in their relationship were due to a lack of communication.
Being in such a complex three-way relationship, communication is a must. She is afraid of lightning and thunder, afraid of scary stories, afraid of a haunted basement (here again the contrast with Maya). And we can open the game and see how many times Josy said “I was scared/afraid.” Josy need to solve this problem.

Sorry but your totally wrong. Josy is in fact brave in does have her own story apart from Maya. I really don't understand the own boring and basic thing because there isn't thing boring or basic about Josy at this point I have to assume it a bad joke because it impossible to play in come to that conclusion and mean it.
While we don't know where Josy's insecurities come from yet its enough to know she has them which basic people would not have these struggles. Josy is no coward there is not single girl in the game as brave or braver then Josy, try to name one you cannot. It not Sage she scared to fight for MC if she loses him Josy is willing to lose everything even Maya for MC, path or not on path. It's not Bella she keeps pretty much everyone out of her life but Jill. It's not Jill I don't even have to say anything here. It's not even Maya because it takes Josy or mc or someone to solve her problems for her and to ask for help something Maya doesn't do. And it isn't Zoey she ran away with no plan when Josy was thinking of moving to the east coast she actually had a plan or at least the start of one.
In 10 episode's we seen Josy fuck mc in her dad's bed, consider moving to east coast, kick tommy in the nut's, out smart Quinn more then anyone else, enter in throuple and make clear her love for mc even if not on path, She is the only reason Maya loan problem could be coming to a end , Battles with her own inner problems if we don't where they come from. Basic that is bullshit she is anything but basic, a coward don't make me laugh there no one braver, boring have you seen this girl in bed. Josy's part of the story may not get a lot of air time it might seem but it only a matter of time before it becomes clear and a lot of people will look foolish.
Brave. Story. Queen

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Sorry but your totally wrong. Josy is in fact brave in does have her own story apart from Maya. I really don't understand the own boring and basic thing because there isn't thing boring or basic about Josy at this point I have to assume it a bad joke because it impossible to play in come to that conclusion and mean it.
While we don't know where Josy's insecurities come from yet its enough to know she has them which basic people would not have these struggles. Josy is no coward there is not single girl in the game as brave or braver then Josy, try to name one you cannot. It not Sage she scared to fight for MC if she loses him Josy is willing to lose everything even Maya for MC, path or not on path. It's not Bella she keeps pretty much everyone out of her life but Jill. It's not Jill I don't even have to say anything here. It's not even Maya because it takes Josy or mc or someone to solve her problems for her and to ask for help something Maya doesn't do. And it isn't Zoey she ran away with no plan when Josy was thinking of moving to the east coast she actually had a plan or at least the start of one.
In 10 episode's we seen Josy fuck mc in her dad's bed, consider moving to east coast, kick tommy in the nut's, out smart Quinn more then anyone else, enter in throuple and make clear her love for mc even if not on path, She is the only reason Maya loan problem could be coming to a end , Battles with her own inner problems if we don't where they come from. Basic that is bullshit she is anything but basic, a coward don't make me laugh there no one braver, boring have you seen this girl in bed. Josy's part of the story may not get a lot of air time it might seem but it only a matter of time before it becomes clear and a lot of people will look foolish.
Brave. Story. Queen

Following the MC at any cost is wrong. This is not courage, this is youthful maximalism and selfishness. Actually, she already has a girlfriend with whom she does not see herself happy and does not solve this problem, but instead follows MC, who may have already found his happiness and does not see himself with Josy. Bravery in this situation would be to let him go. Without injuring yourself, the MC and others.

 

[ChipLecsap]

Following the MC at any cost is wrong. This is not courage, this is youthful maximalism and selfishness. Actually, she already has a girlfriend with whom she does not see herself happy and does not solve this problem, but instead follows MC, who may have already found his happiness and does not see himself with Josy. Bravery in this situation would be to let him go. Without injuring yourself, the MC and others.

I would take this opportunity to Remind you, and everyone in case they forget that Sage did not broke up with Chad, Chad dumped her.........

 

[felicemastronzo]

In 10 episode's we seen Josy fuck mc in her dad's bed,

ok

consider moving to east coast,

Because she is afraid of not being accepted to the BR.

kick tommy in the nut's,

Where would the courage be? Could Tommy have beaten her afterwards?

out smart Quinn more then anyone else,

the idea of showing the video to Arieth? i don't see what courage has to do with it. which then the only one at risk would be Maya anyway.
if, on the other hand, you are referring to when she confronts Quinn breaking into Maya's room, then yes, even though Josy has no idea who Quinn is

enter in throuple and make clear her love for mc even if not on path,

false. the trouple is run only by Maya, Maya decides if it is done, Maya decides its rules. and it took Josy ten chapters to say that she is the one who thinks about MC, instead of continuing to ask him how he can be happy without her

She is the only reason Maya loan problem could be coming to a end ,

in what way? why would it be because of her? because she is Jill's friend? of all the weird stuff you said this is the most unfounded

 

[Darkwen]

She needs some serious personal growth and not just be a plot addition for Maya, of that I'm sure. Find out more about her past, what happened to her and what made her like this. Plus, the character needs some kind of personal problem that she copes with and grows. The fact that she has been in love with MC throughout the game, her current feature, is so-so. Because it turns off a lot of people, we can see it in other AVNs - people don't like girls who pursue MCs.

As for her cowardice, well, she is afraid of everything. Afraid to talk to MC and Maya that she is not satisfied with the “no strings attached” relationship, because she is afraid to upset them. And Tremolo said a long time ago that the problems in their relationship were due to a lack of communication.
Being in such a complex three-way relationship, communication is a must. She is afraid of lightning and thunder, afraid of scary stories, afraid of a haunted basement (here again the contrast with Maya). And we can open the game and see how many times Josy said “I was scared/afraid.” Josy need to solve this problem.

I know you don't like her that's your right but what your saying is clearly not true. Josy does have a personal problem that she is coping with it just isn't fully overcome yet and the player doesn't fully know what it is yet. To say she is afraid of everything nothing against you but that a lie no one that is afraid of everything does the things Josy does like strip beer pong or enter a 3way relationship. Not liking lightning or thunder that's cute there isn't a way to call someone a coward of that to me anyway. Only a person that is truely brave can admit to being scared/afraid. Josy does have personal growth take the Becky scene this episode Josy doesn't try to be nice to her maybe it a little thing to you but that proof she trying not to be so nice all the time with people like Becky. There also growth in Josy opening up to MC and not just with her legs. The only problem Josy needs to overcome is her inner conflict chances are ep 11 or 12 we going to learn a lot more about that.

 

[JayneDoe2]

Nice, after playing this update I honestly feel like an ass stealing Josy from Maya

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[JohnnyCrunch]

She is very insecure, afraid to make decisions and overall a coward.