VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Porthas]

" Without any spoilers, is there any scene between episode 10 and the end of the game that you're more excited to make and/or see fan reactions for than any other scenes? What episode is it planned to appear in?

Without spoilers, the only way I can answer this one is "An emphatic yes. Holy fuck, yes. I've waited many years for this. Yes. Yes. Yes!".
~

What that can possibly be? MC/Chad/Troy threesome?

 

[znar25]

Nobody asked, why are their 3x Madame scenes in EP10 when each LI and Side has fewer scenes?

 

[Porthas]

I respect this point of view, let's see.

Spoiler: Just an example

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Regardless, I don't see any spoilers in this trap. I see an intention to fuck up the gameplay for some players. Besides that you can assume everything, it's no worse or better than looking for clues in renders, character words, or some other patterns. Even if your theory wins, you can't be 100% sure until event you theorized about happens in the game. The clue we are talking about, that can help with support of some theory regarding Quinn is not so significant to be a double trap you're talking about. Theories about the theories or traps is a quite new level, no shit



Why you asking me? I can't know that. And why you switched to Sarah and restaurant at all? We talked about fucking Quinn before committing with J&M and difference between sex during CUM-petition and sex on the roof. Both is possible w/o joining the restaurant and always free, btw, except 3-some with Riona and her. Your MC can agree to use the restaurant, but never use it, for example. Then what? Or you may use it selectively, only with Riona and Camila, but, for example NEVER fucking Quinn at the same time. And a lot of other permutations. Sex with Sarah, especially after camera reveal is a special case.

There are so many unknown variables in this equation that it's hard to guess how this major choice in general or ordering certain "dishes" can affect anything and when or why.

If you want my opinion, sex with Quinn is nothing, even for J&M branch. At least until you haven't agreed to use the restaurant AND bought some dishes there. If MC agreed and never used it - nobody have any evidence (well, Quinn have, but it's just her word), just MCs conscience. Everything beyond that tends to numerous possible outcomes and consequences and not only for J&M branch, I suppose.


Maya is not obliged to like any of the girl MC fucks and approve that. Especially, BEFORE they got into relationship and took obligations. "No strings attached" it was. Without conditions, like "but don't touch a Quinn". And again, all those potential sex with Quinn happening even before "no strings attached" announce. After the library scene Quinn is autoblocked (seems like by MC himself, because Quinn hadn't any clue about what's happening between J&M and MC). At least it's obvious that fooling around with Quinn is not "compatible" anymore and that Maya wouldn't like that (and after EP6, Josy too). Also, technically, it looked like killing the extensive and unnecessary and early branching. Same goes for teachers with J&M active path. Players see it as MCs conscience and kind of internal attitude change. But... it doesn't happening on Jill path, for example. While both paths are quite "romantic" and MC acts very specifically while being on any of this paths.

Regarding Tommy and the rest... MC is able to tell them truth that he slept with more than 10 girls. What was the punishment? -3RP (or -2 if you drink) and no new variables. Yes, the history of MC sexual adventures is saved anyway and DPC can always return to this in the future, but "anybody but not Quinn" in this context looks at least inappropriate and stupid, because MC fucked her before the Throuple was created. No guilty and no cracks in relationship. Don't forget that it's still an AVN game and that it must follow some patterns. I probably use AL as an example again, bc this is the best and closest in this case, because the game is from the same author, not just the same genre. In AL you can fool around till commiting with Megan/Melissa and a bit more in case of Rena. If you will continue to fool around or better to say cheat after taking obligations, then MC relationship is broken at the end. You may fuck the main antagonist (Leah) w/o consequences, twice. BADIK made it safer, since you can't fuck the "bad girl" after the particular point. The only possible issue here is restaraunt.


I'll tell you what it was. DPC decided to add the "Girls stats" feature. Some kind of QoL improvement. And it was a really cool feature, because if you have a multiply saves it's very convinient one to check what you have done and where you may fucked things up. Instead of reading tons of BIOS etc. But this sexual expirience looked ridicolous w/o some of the scenes, which hadn't considered as sex before or better to say hadn't considered as ones during drinking game with J&M. So, one improvement fucked up "safe" runs of some players. I doubt that he would change anything in drinking game if he hadn't implemented the "Girls stats" thing.

There's a lot said here and I agree with your point in the main, I don't think Maya is going to be crucifying MC for Quinn in future episodes.

Thinking about this got me curious. Why is it that Maya is the one who asks MC about his body count? (I hate that term, but I guess it fits)

She was the one who came up with the whole "no strings attached" setting when they first decided to try out their special relationship. So I would have thought this question would matter more to Josy. But I think it's only Maya who asks.

And why does this ding their relationship, at all? I mean, MC isn't really given a chance to ask either one of them what their body count is, right? And I don't see them volunteering that information, unless I'm forgetting something.

Anyway, I wonder if that was DPC slipping up a tad and meta-gaming a horndog MC a bit. That's what it feels like to me. It doesn't feel like a Maya question, at this point. Just an observation, not really a question. Ya'll's discussion made me think of it again.

 

[DavidPuller]

Hi,
I've been playing this game since 2021 and it's undoubtedly my most liked game here. I upgraded my phone to Android 13 a few months back and due to some new Android file restrictions, I was unable to copy the saves from the old one (Android 9). I got the episode 8 save files that I needed from Extras but, I'm unable to change the MC name in Android port from the save point. Can someone kindly help me out here if it's doable?
Thanks!

 

[Dr.Slime]

" Without any spoilers, is there any scene between episode 10 and the end of the game that you're more excited to make and/or see fan reactions for than any other scenes? What episode is it planned to appear in?

Without spoilers, the only way I can answer this one is "An emphatic yes. Holy fuck, yes. I've waited many years for this. Yes. Yes. Yes!".
~

What that can possibly be? MC/Chad/Troy threesome?

yes , I have said it before the true LI are Chad and Troy
The game is about Chad and Troy struggle to show their relationship in the open , it’s not about some student loan or anything like that
Basically the game is. Chad , Troy and the Mc and some bunch of other girls to add flavour.

 

[DavDR]

Hmmm. I wonder. I don't remember there being any clues that Sage was the daughter of Jade and Professor Pimpmasterwannabe. So I'm not convinced he puts clues for everything regarding how the story will proceed.

Look back in this forum, people figured out that Sage was Jade's daughter a long time ago.

 

[Takkatakka]

" Without any spoilers, is there any scene between episode 10 and the end of the game that you're more excited to make and/or see fan reactions for than any other scenes? What episode is it planned to appear in?

Without spoilers, the only way I can answer this one is "An emphatic yes. Holy fuck, yes. I've waited many years for this. Yes. Yes. Yes!".
~

What that can possibly be? MC/Chad/Troy threesome?

Pretty much a "duh" question. Like...what is he supposed to answer here? "No, actually the best scenes are already in the game and the rest will be pretty drab, sorry. "

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Pretty much a "duh" question. Like...what is he supposed to answer here? "No, actually the best scenes are already in the game and the rest will be pretty drab, sorry. "

I mean what event he possibly talks about. "He waited 13 years many years for this."

 

[Porthas]

Look back in this forum, people figured out that Sage was Jade's daughter a long time ago.

What were the clues? And no, I'm not searching through 2700+ pages of this thread. If you know and wanna tell me, just tell me. If not, that's fine, not going to bother me.

 

[Moni23]

My MC doesn't give Riona any money. By the way, this happens in EP5. But apparently you don't understand it either. Friendship can exist without fucking. The MC is simply there for Riona, he listens to her, cheers her up and treats her like a human being without demanding sex or anything in return from her. That's friendship.

The MC cannot act if he does not have certain information. This concerns Riona's stalker. Prostitution is a different matter. If the MC declines Quinn's restaurant offer, the player will never see Riona prostituting herself. So it's fair to ask whether she's really a prostitute in the restaurant? We don't see that. But in the end it doesn't matter because you can be friends with a prostitute without fucking her.

But the MC knows something about Quinn's restaurant because Quinn personally offered it to the MC. The MC also tells Quinn, Riona and Tommy to use drugs. In EP9, the MC finds out about Tommy himself so he can buy his drugs from Vinny. You're right about one thing. The MC doesn't know so Quinn and Riona are dealing drugs. But in EP10 there is a bypass named Stephen Burke and Quinn comes out of Stephen Burke's office pretty angry. There is a tablet on her right foot.

But my MC doesn't need the relationship with Quinn to find out what Quinn's up to. Why? Riona will tell the MC everything because the two are friends in a good way.

What you describe is intended for DIK MC players, but not for CHICK MC players.

I don't make that mistake. Why? Quinn herself offers the MC the restaurant. Quinn herself tells the MC that she likes to play games with people and the MC finds out from Tommy that Quinn likes to push buttons and she doesn't care who she pushes those buttons on. Tommy is pretty pissed about it and says it's because he thought so, so he likes that about Quinn. Oops. We learn that Tommy can dish it out but doesn't want to take it. Through Quinn and Riona, the MC finds out that Quinn is manipulative, even without being on her path or in the restaurant. How? The MC has to comfort Riona in EP9 and also in EP9 the MC learns how Quinn tricked the Alphas. The MC finds out about Sage so that Quinn was tasked with telling the DIKs to celebrate with the Preps, but Quinn didn't tell the DIKs. I could go on like this.

Of course the CHICK MC doesn't know everything Quinn is up to, but he will find out. From whom? Probably from Riona.

As I wrote above, I use the experience I get from my playthrough. Of course, the MC doesn't know that Quinn also deals drugs when he's not on her path. But this is exactly where the trap of DPC lies.

I find out from you that Quinn told the MC everything. As a result, the MC on Quinn's path can no longer credibly deny anything he has learned from Quinn. If you want it that way, please. Of course the MC knows about the restaurant, but he can safely dismiss it. How? Quinn said to the MC that she likes playing with people and then the restaurant offer came. The MC suspects something and even warns Maya, but he can't know for sure. If the MC is confronted with knowledge about the restaurant (for example from Sage), he can always say that he didn't say anything because he doesn't have any solid evidence and therefore doesn't want to spread a rumor. But in EP10, when the MC finds out everything from Quinn, here's what happens.

“Gone with me, caught with me” or “There is no way back to not knowing”.

You don't have to remind me because I still hold that opinion no matter what happens on the Quinn Path. On the contrary, the Quinn path will lead Quinn and the DIK MC into the abyss. Why? Quinn sees no reason to change and is only encouraged in her efforts to be a bad girl by a DIK MC because they are both quite similar. Only the CHICK MC could change Quinn and that will only happen if the CHICK MC isn't fully aware of Quinn's machinations. “There is no way back to not knowing.” If the CHICK MC doesn't know everything and Quinn later didn't tell him anything about her machinations, then there is a path to redemption for Quinn through the CHICK MC.

But I don't feel like writing about it anymore because you have your opinion and I have mine. Neither of us will change our minds.

I will express my opinion about Quinn (I personally don’t care about her, I don’t play this route)
She will get a good ending. Dick ms, despite his pranks, is still a good guy. He helps the diks, helps Maya and Josy, and is friends with Jill and Isabella. I don't believe this guy will suddenly start committing real crimes (maybe only 4 episodes left). Quinn's transition to the light side is much more likely. In computer games, the main character influences the environment, and not vice versa.
And one more thought. The author creates a game not only for those who play now, but also for those who will buy it on Steam in 10-15 years. When they start, they will already know all the endings. If Quinn's route leads to disaster, then all the work to create it will be pointless. Nobody will play this route.

 

[Takkatakka]

I mean what event he possibly talks about. "He waited 13 years many years for this this."

I meant the original question.

I don't know...could be anything he came up with while laying out the story of the new game. Since we don't know what direction the game will ultimately take, we can't know what he possible means.

 

[DavDR]

What were the clues? And no, I'm not searching through 2700+ pages of this thread. If you know and wanna tell me, just tell me. If not, that's fine, not going to bother me.

Jade/Sage = green

When Quinn was trying to make up for the shortage in her drug business there's a scene of Quinn and Rionna talking strategy. Quinn talks about thinking one move in advance while playing chess. Her first move is Sage, second move Tybalt. What's the connection?

When Chad is kicked out of the Alphas, Dawe suggest to him that he ask Sage to intercede and later we see the scene of that conversation. Chad says to Sage that 'they will listen to you'. Why?

When Sage and MC are about to fuck in public at the DIK party, Jacob intervenes and warns of consequences. Why?

At the Alpha mansion party Sage knows which bedroom is Tybalts

There were long arguments about all of these points in this forum but eventually it was accepted as the consensus that Sage was Jade's daughter. Interestingly enough I had been part of a discussion in the Patreon forum where we had this same discussion and came to the same conclusion. Soon after I was kicked off of DPC's Patreon, with no reason given.

 

[Porthas]

Interestingly enough I had been part of a discussion in the Patreon forum where we had this same discussion and came to the same conclusion. Soon after I was kicked off of DPC's Patreon, with no reason given.

Well that wasn't cool.

And thanks for the information.

 

[Deleted member 6297007]

I often wonder where this tale is headed...it set sail to great aplomb and celebration, after a successful first foray into the world of VN's. But the sea has become an ocean, and I wonder if Dr PinkCake is sailing out of his depth, losing sight of the horizon.
Player choice is a wonderful way of integrating the player and creating an immersive environment...but for every choice, there are tributaries of sub-choices that ripple out across the water...and they all have to connect with each other and make sense narratively.
Each chapter, in this epic saga, is now taking almost a year to complete. It's top quality content, I just hope that he doesn't get lost in the open sea and that he is able to steer this tale towards it's destination.

 

[Cabin Fever]

There's a shit-ton of folks in this thread that should read this... imho.

Some people thought I was crazy when I said after Ep1 that Josy and Maya were a couple. But the clues were already all there.

 

[Cabin Fever]

There were subtle clues that people put together: Jacob warning MC that other people as well as Chad would hear about MC fucking Sage at the DIK party. During Jade and Stephen's fight there was a picture that was strategically kept out of sight, suggesting that seeing the picture would be a spoiler. There were other clues I can't remember offhand from Sage conversations with MC.

There was also Quinn's not so subtle jab at Sage that whatever problem they were facing at the time (I forgot what it was) could be easily solved if Sage only would use her connections.

 

[Darkwen]

" Without any spoilers, is there any scene between episode 10 and the end of the game that you're more excited to make and/or see fan reactions for than any other scenes? What episode is it planned to appear in?

Without spoilers, the only way I can answer this one is "An emphatic yes. Holy fuck, yes. I've waited many years for this. Yes. Yes. Yes!".
~

What that can possibly be? MC/Chad/Troy threesome?

OR Derek and Neil

 

[ChipLecsap]

But your comparison with Sage and Elena is flawed here. No matter what your choices were, you were meant to be friend witth Sage & Elena. The MC being Sage's confident is canon in all branches because they bonded in the Preps mansion no matter what your choices were. Sage teaming up with the MC and the other girls to help Maya is canon. That's absolutely not the same thing with Riona and Quinn. Helping Riona with money in EP4 isn't canon, it's a choice. And you need to make this choice to get closer to her. Fucking Riona at least once is required to be able to help her with her stalker in EP8. That's a choice required, not something canon, happening in all paths. Without that, the MC doesn't even know about Riona's anguish. In fact, he doesn't even understand that Riona is part of a prostitution circle if he doesn't accept Quinn's offer. It's the same thing with Quinn, the MC doesn't know shit about Quinn's activities if he's not closed to her. In fact, he didn't even get that Quinn was selling drugs to Tommy, he only got it when Quinn explicitely confessed him in EP10 that she was Tommy's former supplier before Vinny. Yes, the MC is that stupid and clueless. Everything the MC knows about Quinn, Riona and Vinny is not canon. Your choices matter here.





And here, you're making another mistake. You're confusing what you, the player knows and what the MC knows. That's completely different. Unlike the MC, you're not completely clueless because you saw a lot of scene from Quinn, Riona, Tommy or even Vinny point of view. You've got a shitload of information that the MC doesn't have. The MC doesn't share your near omniscience. If the MC doesn't get closer to Quinn and Riona, he barely knows them and he doesn't know jack shit about what they're doing. You know almost the full extend of the drug and prostitution circle but the MC doesn't.




Because once again, you're making assumptions based on a limited part of information and only reads what you want to read. I've already told you that you're overthinking about the whole Dog insult. I've already told you that his interaction with the MC is the same no matter what is affinity is and how you chose to react. But for some reasons, you want to read that scene in three different ways. That the same thing with the way you chose to interpret Quinn and the MC relationship the way you see fit. The MC made a choice, he confronted Quinn, she finally opened up to him and told him the whole truth about who she is and what she's doing. Something that don't happen in any other path. And the MC made a choice to be with her and to accept this part of her. But you chose to ignore all of it and stay focused on the "Dog" part, a petty insult from jerk who is supposed to be one of the main antagonist, like it was some kind of Cassandra truth.

Do I need to remind you that everything you said about Quinn craving for the CHICK MC made even more less sense now ? We're coming to the point where Quinn later confess to the MC her plans for the future and that she's not planning to take the lead of the sorority and intends to leave B&R sooner than expected. Once again, something you'll never get in any other playthrough. And that's pretty funny that you only consider the possibility that everything will go wrong for the MC or Quinn. But never once, you've considered that the MC could improve her or that they could make it work or that they could find a way out. Why ? Because you've settled your mind, the same way you seem to think than Being a Chick is the best option in all possible scenarios with all character. You have no interest in Quinn or others path, ok that's your shot. But please stop making constant assumptions on things you don't even see or read. And not just for Quinn and Riona, for all the other characters. It's maybe not the impression you want to make but do you realise how arrogant you can sound sometimes ? Telling everyone how they should interpret and read the scene even when you haven't even seen those scenes yourself ?

Thank you, I don't think I have to say anything

 

[ChipLecsap]

Look back in this forum, people figured out that Sage was Jade's daughter a long time ago.

it was a very popular theory so much so, that dpc, purposely try to mislead the peoples in episode 5, with the guy looking for his daughter that now we know is Jill's father

 

[NebulousShooter]

Do you foresee similar dev length cycles for the remaining episodes, and if so, will it be for the purpose of adding more content to the story

Footage of how he really reacted reading that question, knowing what it really means.