VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Geralt From Rivia]

It always makes me laugh when people make fun of patrons do they not realise no patrons no game?

A typical day at F95. Nothing new

Well what is the real numbers because the jump he gets from ep 10 or 9 doesn't really count because most likely are just buying the update then leaving until the next one which is pretty smart on there part, it the base number that really keeping this going

This happens with every game with every update drop; not everyone can afford the luxury of a monthly fee. Just an observation that this release was a record breaking one.

Between steam and "occasional" patreons, I think its existence would be assured anyway

This is guesswork. We don’t know how much development costs him, thousands of assets from DAZ, each costs the same as an AAA game, bills for electricity, hardware, + he lives from this money, not having another job.
Maybe now yes, the dude is a multimillionaire and is buying himself another Koenigsegg, but even to go on Steam and release there Season 1 he needed patrons - this is how the indie industry works in most. No Patreon - no game, that's simple. Especially such heavy project like BaDIK.

 

[Kpyna]

9 didn't really move the story any but 10 did actually move things forward but I do agree with the point I think your making in that the story was moving faster when he was doing less renders

The story was moving faster? At the end of EP5 we are barely passed through 1(!!) week in game universe. Even if the events was intense it was just a Hell week stuff and first week in college. Which is NOTHING in terms of planned year for the whole story.

 

[LiuXuande]

Ironically, without them the game wouldn't exist.

The Patreon system is cool and allow to support an endeavor with little if no guarantee. Problem is when patrons detract it from his meaning (updating a game) to a render/report project.

When devs realized this, that pigeons give them money whether or not they update the game. Why would they bother? That's what those people are encouraging with their amoral attitude. Procrastination.

In the end, good for the devs. They don't need to work anymore. Just sad for the players as the updates now take more than one year and games progress at the speed of a snail.

This is guesswork. We don’t know how much development costs him, thousands of assets from DAZ, each costs the same as an AAA game, bills for electricity, hardware, + he lives from this money, not having another job.

Let's not get make DPC a martyr though.

 

[felicemastronzo]

A typical day at F95. Nothing new

This happens with every game with every update drop; not everyone can afford the luxury of a monthly fee. Just an observation that this release was a record breaking one.

This is guesswork. We don’t know how much development costs him, thousands of assets from DAZ, each costs the same as an AAA game, bills for electricity, hardware, + he lives from this money, not having another job.
Maybe now yes, the dude is a multimillionaire and is buying himself another Koenigsegg, but even to go on Steam and release there Season 1 he needed patrons - this is how the indie industry works in most. No Patreon - no game, that's simple. Especially such heavy project like BaDIK.

A project involving only one person cannot be so heavy and so in need of funds for survival.... Then certainly the more one earns, the happier one is

 

[ChipLecsap]

The story was moving faster? At the end of EP5 we are barely passed through 1(!!) week in game universe. Even if the events was intense it was just a Hell week stuff and first week in college. Which is NOTHING in terms of planned year for the whole story.

Yeah, but every episode actually moved forward that event , and its actually started in episode 3 , the whole hell week arc. stil more than episode 9. Hell, more thing happend in episode 5, than in episode 9 .

 

[Darkwen]

The story was moving faster? At the end of EP5 we are barely passed through 1(!!) week in game universe. Even if the events was intense it was just a Hell week stuff and first week in college. Which is NOTHING in terms of planned year for the whole story.

Of course there are really slow moments but are you telling me the story is moving faster now?

 

[jingtu]

Does being with Jade ruin the Sage branch?

This most certainly has been asked before but I'm desperate and can't find an answer, about to stop and restart the whole thing T_T

 

[ChipLecsap]

Actually, they don't. Of course, if you pay the full price, you'll be ripped off, but anyone who hanged around for a while in Daz Store will realize those full prices are there just to create the psychological effect that, when they give you a discount, you think you're making a great deal -- which, sometimes you are because some discounts are so great I don't think they even pay for having your asset in the clouds so you can download 'em anytime you want. But the real prices of those assets are like 10~15% of the full price for non-Daz originals and 5~10% for Daz Originals (sometimes and in some special events even more for older assets). You just have to be patient. And Mr. DPC has been around for long to know that. Which reminds the time I used to tip him a dollar to stay in his Patreon and saw one his posts that was like "Oh... I have to buy assets and they're so expensive..." And I though, "OMG, this guy is so full of bullshit..."

I refuse to believe he not pirating the things if he can. That's all I'm gonna say.
There is obviously things he is paying for, but I refuse to believe that everything is "bought".
He was once one of us

 

[Darkwen]

A typical day at F95. Nothing new

This happens with every game with every update drop; not everyone can afford the luxury of a monthly fee. Just an observation that this release was a record breaking one.

This is guesswork. We don’t know how much development costs him, thousands of assets from DAZ, each costs the same as an AAA game, bills for electricity, hardware, + he lives from this money, not having another job.
Maybe now yes, the dude is a multimillionaire and is buying himself another Koenigsegg, but even to go on Steam and release there Season 1 he needed patrons - this is how the indie industry works in most. No Patreon - no game, that's simple. Especially such heavy project like BaDIK.

Which it great ep 10 did that but if DPC was worried about his money he would be moving faster, personally I don't think number from the around the update and after it count unless he keeps them it the middle numbers that between updates that count

 

[ffive]

I think one of the main reasons updates take so long is the amount of branching or stuff like that and I would much rather lots of branching than the typical trash game on here which has such riveting choices as 'do you want to see this sex scene?'

I mean, for the most part the choices in BaDIK boil down to whose sex scene you will see or skip, too.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

The Patreon system is cool and allow to support an endeavor with little if no guarantee. Problem is when patrons detract it from his meaning (updating a game) to a render/report project.

When devs realized this, that pigeons give them money whether or not they update the game. Why would they bother? That's what those people are encouraging with their amoral attitude. Procrastination.

In the end, good for the devs. They don't need to work anymore. Just sad for the players as the updates now take more than one year and games progress at the speed of a snail.


Let's not get make DPC a martyr though.

Never a martyr. There is something to scold him for. An obsession with control, a ridiculous solution with 60 fps animations, heavy censorship on Discord/Patreon and aversion to criticism... But I won’t blame the DPC for doing business, it’s ridiculous. After all, every game developer doing business.
And here there is something to agree with, BaDIK and top games have a one-year development cycle. With huge updates, visuals that have stepped far forward in 5 years and this is really difficult for one person, Felice correctly noted here. But we have what we have. Personally, I would prefer large updates than 300 renders for half an hour once a month, as was before.

Which it great ep 10 did that but if DPC was worried about his money he would be moving faster, personally I don't think number from the around the update and after it count unless he keeps them it the middle numbers that between updates that count

He may and will begin to worry if there is a strong downward trend on Patreon, which is not observed now. Plus sales on Steam.

 

[Cabin Fever]

OMG, both are you are Fake.

DPC was a A Part-time developer, before Badik episode 5. Episode 5 from start to finish was the first episode when he worked at as a Full Time Game developer, . Everything before that, including the whole , and entire Acting Lessons was made while he had a " Rel life Job", and game development was just a Side gig for him, and in fact, he worked faster when game development was just a hobbie project to him. Kind of Ironic.

So, Yeah in fact he is working slower now, with much more time, and way , way better equipment, because it is in his interest to not make it fast.

Well, here's why I think you are wrong. Even back in the day, DPC wasn't leaving his computer idle while he was working on his day job. His computer was rendering 24/7 back then too. So the limiting factor wasn't how much time he spent on "creating", but how fast his computer could render his creation. The fact that he wasn't a full time developer was somewhat irrelevant.

 

[Cabin Fever]

Rendering is way faster than creating... Just saying...

If that were the case, it would literally be impossible to have a queue to render 24/7... Just saying...

 

[Darkwen]

He may and will begin to worry if there is a strong downward trend on Patreon, which is not observed now. Plus sales on Steam.

That could happen if patreon's get tired of waiting it would test if DPC really means it when he says he would keep making the game even if he was the only one playing

 

[Darkwen]

Rendering is way faster than creating... Just saying...

There a lot of women that would disagree with that

 

[ffive]

Well, mate, I think complexity matters... There's a big difference between a novel (because I don't consider them games) that's just "blah blah blah", "do you wanna see that scene?", "blah blah blah", "do you wanna see that scene?", and so on, and a game that has a complexity of branches, decisions, and variables attached to it.

However, that's basically just nothing but obfuscation of the same, simple premise, isn't it? The branching and the decisions don't actually influence the plot in any noticeable manner beyond whose sex scenes you will see on the given playthrough. Now, i'm not excluding possibility this suddenly changes, but i also don't think the likeliness of that happening is high, half way through.

Moreover, you can say that BaDIK is really a game: even if you want to see a scene, you may blunder and not be able to do it. The proof is there's a walkthrough and people in the forums asking for help to unlock some scenes, while in those "skipnetic" games, not even the really mentally challenged needs a walkthrough to see any scene.

I see people ask for walkthrough or "full saves" even for simplest of games because they're first and foremost fucking lazy and would rather get spoon-fed for guaranteed outcome (i.e. these sex scenes) than even try to think for themselves. BaDIK is still a Choose Your Own Adventure book at heart: sure, maybe with a few more decision points, but it doesn't really change its basic nature.

 

[Kpyna]

Hell, more thing happend in episode 5, than in episode 9 .

Nope... EP5 party was several times smaller than EP9. There are no flashbacks and other stuff, which also works as story progression.

Of course there are really slow moments but are you telling me the story is moving faster now?

I think this fact does not deserve to be disputed... both story moving faster and bigger number of events per episode. I mean really significant ones.

 

[ChipLecsap]

Well, here's why I think you are wrong. Even back in the day, DPC wasn't leaving his computer idle while he was working on his day job. His computer was rendering 24/7 back then too. So the limiting factor wasn't how much time he spent on "creating", but how fast his computer could render his creation. The fact that he wasn't a full time developer was somewhat irrelevant.

I can't confirm or deny this, and neither you. DPC can say whatever the fuck he wants to say, and it's up to individual person whether to believe him or not. I tend to belive him less and less, personally.

past experience however showed, he was more productive when he was a part time developer.
after all he did finish a game over in a year. He was able to tel a full story, with a bit more than 5000 Render, now he need 5000 render for a Halloween party night. and at the same amount of time, with more free time, and better, way better equipment than one 1080ti.

 

[ffive]

past experience however showed, he was more productive when he was a part time developer.
after all he did finish a game over in a year. He was able to tel a full story, with a bit more than 5000 Render, now he need 5000 render for a Halloween party night. and at the same amount of time, with more free time, and better, way better equipment than one 1080ti.

I think it'd be more accurate to say DPC used to be more concise, not productive.

His productivity (in terms of code, renders etc) is on similar, if not higher level. But he now spends way more of resources on every single, small bit of his story where previously he'd be thriftier with the allocation and thus faster with delivering tangible output.

 

[ChipLecsap]

Nope... EP5 party was several times smaller than EP9. There are no flashbacks and other stuff, which also works as story progression.

there is an actual day and night circle in episode 5. That is the point, it's not a couple of hours in a party. You start with the evaluation, go to the party than spend the night at Bella, Drive home cathy, and the morning, time with Bella and Jill, Yoga, Sauna, pancake and than you visit Sage, and Josy and Maya, and then MC visit the mansion give a speech and get his jacket.

in ep 9, in 90% you are in the Dik mansion walking to one room to an another. ep 9 felt claustrophobic

and extremely funny that that 10 % flashback, in before halloween somehow MC did not find the time to tell Josy and Maya that he chose or not chose them, but he had time to sexting with Lily, or visit a hospital for STD test.