Chillout1984

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Yes, but what i meant is that DPC seemingly planed this subplot around controversy that's Bianca cheating specifically with boyfriend of her close friend, or at least a "close friend of a best friend" that is Isabela. MC who is cheating with Bianca on girls other than these, or MC who isn't in relationship himself, would be missing this aspect. Meaning DPC would either have to write two different variants of the sub-plot, one arguably more interesting than other, or just limit the possibility to that more interesting scenario. Which is overall more likely.
To me it seems that the trigger for her to be available to MC during Jill's path is that she's single because she was cheated on. There is imo not really a good reason why she would cheat during Bella's path, where she hasn't learned it (so far).

If you are a dik after that if you pick her as MG she will reject you. And in episode9 Bianca makes a comment about how she cannot understand how jill can reject you and that she will be all over you. That gives me the thought that maby you can get her that way. I will be trying that right now.
You can't be a DIK and be invited to the dinner. To get the invitation you need to be either neutral or chick, and even when neutral you don't get enough major DIK choices to go from neutral to DIK. Even if you're a DIK before the final choice (the midterms) and you choose DIK there, you will revert back to NEUTRAL for permanent affinity.
 

Lagunavii

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Note that technically it's not a deal-breaker per se: you can have up to 13 points with Zoey, and that one is worth 3. So you can still get it even with couple minor mistakes.
Didn't say it was a deal-breaker, just that it was a biggie. Telling her your mad also opens the option to avoid her hangout in episode 9 as well. I don't know if you gcan get points there, but by saying you're mad you are starting that path at a disadvantage
 

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There's already a Jill rejects you path, it's back at episode 8 if you're a perm dik
No you don't understand. You do a jill path you stick it through to the end no rejections at the end of episode 8 you choose your gf. If you are dik by then she will reject you at the place where she tells Tybalt to Foff. That is what I am talking about no rejection before that. See the thing is the Jill path can be neutral. So if you can get yourself right on the edge of neutral and then flip over to perma dik you will get what I explained. It is hard to do but possible.
 

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To me it seems that the trigger for her to be available to MC during Jill's path is that she's single because she was cheated on. There is imo not really a good reason why she would cheat during Bella's path, where she hasn't learned it (so far).
No, you can get on Bianca's path even if she's still in her relationship. It just means both her and Fuckface are cheating on their partners, instead of just MC, and you get slightly different text variants.
 

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Lets take a project from the same Dev, Acting Lessons had a good story, a nice twist and a fast pace in updates.
The game was first posted here May 2 2018 and the final update August 12 2019, in my book, that's fast.

Now Badick, first posted here February 7 2019 and last updated here Marsh 9 2025. 6 years in the making and we can't see an end in sight, the updates are really long, almost a year for so few content and like a said, that hybride thing where you have a VN and sandbox in the game is not doing it for me.

So you want thought in my criticism, here it goes.

1- 6 year in the making is too long for a VN even a game, two maybe three year is a good lenght of time so that the player doesn't lose interest in the game and even the Dev himself.
ILS production is doing nice VNs in a span of 2 to 3 year to a complete VN and update are pratically on a monthly basis with a lot of content in it, THAT what i call fast pace. i'm not asking that for all games and VN, but between montly updates and yearly updates there's a lot of time to choses a nice pace in between updates.

2- In my point of view, updates should't go further then 6 months, because you almost have to restart the game to remember what you did before or at least start the new update a couple of saves before the last one just to dive back into the game.

3- When you develop a game or a VN, your main story should be your first priority and the side quest, your second priority. So yes, you can put side quest in a game or VN, but not to the detriment of your main story like BaDik does where most of the game time are made in side quest and grinding in the sandbox part of the game.

4- And finally, this is only my own thought, liking and wants when i play a game or a VN, if i'm alone in thoses likings and wants, the dev won't change a thing and leave his project as is, but if a lot of players think like me, then the dev might take that in to consideration when doing his project and/or future projects, after all, if few people contribute to his project, he won't make money and do like a lot of dev do and abandon his project, but if a lot more people contribute to his project, he will make even more money, if i don't say a thing and a lot of people do the same, well the dev will lose supporters, like i did when i deleted the game. i hope, for DPK that not to many people does like me, because if i don't like BaDik, i loved Acting Lessons and i don't want DPK to stop doing game, i just want him to do more like he did with Acting Lessons.
Couldn't agree more. Respect to your outward criticism. The game thread here in F95 is full of cult type people. It takes courage to call out a fox, a fox. They would gang up on you.
Acting lessons would definitely comes at top 3 if anyone want to give examples of both production quality and pace. About update interval I disagree slightly. It shouldn't exceed 3 months no matter how solo a project is and if a dev is earning 10k+ then at least 30+ animation per month and updates in 2 months interval in not in every months. NLTMEDIA is probably the only one now with both speed and quality.
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Anyhow I am a free player. So, cannon complain too much. The options for this VN are clear to me. There are only 2 actually.
1. Wait 5 years and perhaps by that time I lose interest in adult VN.
2. Fap on the favorite characters one or two times then forget about it.
 

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I'm not excluding the possibility completely but yeah, i don't think the chances for Bianca on Others route is very high. The thing is, the cabin trip does lot of heavy lifting in establishing rapport between Fuckface and Bianca, and that'd be missing on other routes.

The threesome thing though, i could see it as a possibility, given Jill and Bianca's past antics. That is presuming Isabela doesn't garden shears MC's balls first for cheating on Jill. :sneaky:
I edited my post with the link to a few screen shots, since I can't be assed to repost them.

On Others you do a lot with her, outside of 'Getting her number and her bowl challenge. I feel it will be like a waste if it leads nowhere, especially since on Quinn route you already seen her BF cheat and in the Halloween party put two and two together? She already finds the MC hot. Maybe its just copium, but it would be a bait and switch and hope it gets DPC send to jail if nothing comes of it. :cautious:

Side note it would be hilarious if Others would be the only way to get a clean relationship with her. :BootyTime:
 

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You know what pisses me off the most about ep11? It's not the nauseatingly cheesy propaganda of healthy communication, it's this shit:
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Pro tip: don't leave any money there by the end of ep10. :D
Fuck Nick. This dickhead didn't even have the courtesy to take all his fucking fishs with him. He threw shit and left us with the responsibility to feed his colony. I wish we had the option to make him eat all the dead fish, one by one :mad:
 
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Chillout1984

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No, you can get on Bianca's path even if she's still in her relationship. It just means both her and Fuckface are cheating on their partners, instead of just MC, and you get slightly different text variants.
Ah didn't know that, but it makes sense. You can already flirt with Bianca during Halloween and she doesn't mind that (even though she does nothing back I believe) and that's before she can learn about Matthew. When on Jill's path I always told Bianca.
 

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Uhm sorry but ... what? This doesnt make any sense at all

Youre saying Josy is more emotionally needy and therefore to make the throuple work we need to spend most of the time with maya to make josy accept that best she can get is being the third wheel lol. This sounds like a recipe for absolute disaster. If any this sounds like a surefire way to go for a solo maya playthrough.

All of these feelings and intentions would be wrong for a healthy relationship and it would be way better for Josy to dip in that case.
I get where you are coming from, but you seem to be operating under the idea that the MC isn't in love with Josy as well. Which is my bad I didn't really express my thoughts well. In a balanced playthrough, where the MC conceivably Loves both the girls, Josy coming to realize that the MC cares too much for Maya to leave her to be only with her wouldn't happen. I think in this instance she would have to consider what she wants, try to work on things with Maya, who she cares about but maybe isn't in love with anymore, or break off completely. I wasn't neccesarily saying that we need to spend more time with maya for josy's benefit, just that it would force her to think about things.
 

Chillout1984

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After a complete Mel/Sarah drought in chapter 10, their scenes are mutually exclusive in chapter 11? Why do you hate me, DPC
And without logical story reason as well, considering he never had the issues before that he needed to recharge, and also not afterwards at the panty party (where he can again cum quite a few times one after the other)
 
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No, you can get on Bianca's path even if she's still in her relationship. It just means both her and Fuckface are cheating on their partners, instead of just MC, and you get slightly different text variants.
Can you get on it on any path or is it just Jill/Bella... Seems that most the heavy lifting for that path is done on the ski trip.
 

Bobloblaw1234

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And without logical story reason as well, considering he never had the issues before that he needed to recharge, and also not afterwards at the panty party (where he can again cum quite a few times one after the other)
Whats the total count at the Panty Party - 5?
Others route:
Becky :kek
Tiffany
Tara
Lily - if on her rolling route
Elana
 

ffive

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Fuck Nick. This dickhead didn't even have the courtesy to take all his fucking fishs with him. He threw shit and left us with the responsibility to feed his colony. I wish we had the option to make him eat all the dead fish, one by one :mad:
I'm personally glad he's left the fish in our care because that made it really easy to get money for $$$ gifts for everyone. :sneaky:
 

Bobloblaw1234

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Can you get on it on any path or is it just Jill/Bella... Seems that most the heavy lifting for that path is done on the ski trip.
Bianca seems tied to Bella/Jill route.
I have not gotten the option to interact with and have "the talk" and help her with her bowl mission on any other routes.
 

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Can you get on it on any path or is it just Jill/Bella... Seems that most the heavy lifting for that path is done on the ski trip.
No, at least not in Episode 11. The scene which sets Bianca path variable (or should, it's bugged atm) is only accessible for Fuckface who is on Jill/Bella route, meaning he visited the cabin, and did some flirting with Bianca.

To be exact, the conditions are:
Python:
    if (branchJill or branchIsabella) and (ep11_bianca_dick > 0 or ep11_bianca_flirt):
 
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