VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Darkwen]

I still feel epilogues will all be in one big episode, not eked out piecemeal style.

Biggest reason why is think it about it this way; let's say the epilogue episode gives us the conclusion to the main story, the universal stuff we all know about, but only gives you the endings for Sage and Jill. The problem you have there is that it only satisfies part of the fanbase whilst also revealing the main ending to the game and thus potentially spoiling it for those not interested in or even not playing those paths. DPC would never want people to know how the story ends before getting the ending with girl(s) they want. He's also not just going to have the endings for each girl and leave out the universal ending until they're all done and I also don't think he'd do the universal ending and then each epilogue one at at time. DPC interweaves so much of this game that the universal and branch endings will surely be interwoven as well.

It might take a really long time to do all the endings in one episode, but one thing we know we about DPC is that he'll take however long he feels is needed to do that and not feel like he has to put out the ending in pieces just to keep people happy.

there going to be like 50 endings probably two eps of endings like AL

 

[FalconLover420]

I still feel epilogues will all be in one big episode, not eked out piecemeal style.

Biggest reason why is think it about it this way; let's say the epilogue episode gives us the conclusion to the main story, the universal stuff we all know about, but only gives you the endings for Sage and Jill. The problem you have there is that it only satisfies part of the fanbase whilst also revealing the main ending to the game and thus potentially spoiling it for those not interested in or even not playing those paths. DPC would never want people to know how the story ends before getting the ending with girl(s) they want. He's also not just going to have the endings for each girl and leave out the universal ending until they're all done and I also don't think he'd do the universal ending and then each epilogue one at at time. DPC interweaves so much of this game that the universal and branch endings will surely be interwoven as well.

It might take a really long time to do all the endings in one episode, but one thing we know we about DPC is that he'll take however long he feels is needed to do that and not feel like he has to put out the ending in pieces just to keep people happy.

It is pretty much what I said earlier where we would have episodes that cover holidays and events such as valentines, spring break and finals with the final big bang being the epilogue episode.

Once he releases that final epilogue episode, he will start losing patreon supporters (Maybe not, summertime saga donors still exist btw) even if he starts reworking cause the entire thing is finished.

 

[Zda13]

As much as we want there to be something crazy behind the door at Bellas, it's more than likely going to just be a room full of James' stuff that she would obsess over.

Whether that will actually be worth the teasing it's had so far is the the real question that needs to be asked. How can he make it interesting enough to be worth the teasing and ending an episode on it.

 

[Klepon]

hear me out - Season 4 has 5 episodes
- Bella focused
- Maya/Josy focused
- Jill Focused
- Sage Focused
- Zoey/Other focused

That would explain so much

In s4, I think at some point should be get the ending for few route. Specifically for other "girl" hots/pub route.
So they could focus on the main route or other "main girl" such as riona/Heather or Quinn

 

[Lagunavii]

As much as we want there to be something crazy behind the door at Bellas, it's more than likely going to just be a room full of James' stuff that she would obsess over.

Whether that will actually be worth the teasing it's had so far is the the real question that needs to be asked. How can he make it interesting enough to be worth the teasing and ending an episode on it.

Simple answer... He can't. It's pretty much Maya's contract all over again. The mysteries have bee dragged on too long now it's now venturing into the relief of a reveal rather than excitement of reveal.

 

[Chillout1984]

I still feel epilogues will all be in one big episode, not eked out piecemeal style.

Biggest reason why is think it about it this way; let's say the epilogue episode gives us the conclusion to the main story, the universal stuff we all know about, but only gives you the endings for Sage and Jill. The problem you have there is that it only satisfies part of the fanbase whilst also revealing the main ending to the game and thus potentially spoiling it for those not interested in or even not playing those paths. DPC would never want people to know how the story ends before getting the ending with girl(s) they want. He's also not just going to have the endings for each girl and leave out the universal ending until they're all done and I also don't think he'd do the universal ending and then each epilogue one at at time. DPC interweaves so much of this game that the universal and branch endings will surely be interwoven as well.

It might take a really long time to do all the endings in one episode, but one thing we know we about DPC is that he'll take however long he feels is needed to do that and not feel like he has to put out the ending in pieces just to keep people happy.

I admit that it would be pretty uncommon to spread epilogues out over multiple episodes/DLC, but it has been done before (I can think of 1 game but they charged money for the final epilogue dlc). Considering how many endings there could be however it could be expected to spread them over at least 2-3 epilogues/packs. What I currently think of:

- At least a DIK and CHICK ending per MG with probably a third independent ending based on TC. My guess is that NEUTRAL route's endings can be either the normal DIK or CHICK ending but maybe based on how many post-ep8 (or even total overall) major choices you made combined with your status
- 1-2 endings per SG that have a "confirmed" route
- Endings based on how often you had sex and with whom without ending in one of the above routes.
- Maybe 5 Zoey endings: 1 per switch from MG and 1 from others
- Maybe two "secret" fun endings: An extreme dark ending where MC comes a die-hard criminal like Vinny if you choose every DIK option (both major and minor), or an extreme positive ending where MC acts like an angel if you choose every CHICK option.

It's still possible that besides the already "confirmed" Bianca route and probable Cindy route, there will be more new last-minute routes added in episode 12 (Sally, Mel and Sarah come to mind, with if Sarah happens it will almost certainly be an open relationship)

Like Darkwen said, it could easily go to 50 and possibly even more.

 

[Lagunavii]

In s4, I think at some point should be get the ending for few route. Specifically for other "girl" hots/pub route.
So they could focus on the main route or other "main girl" such as riona/Heather or Quinn

DPC has said not all Others are going to get endings. We can make an educated guess at what girls will... Mainly Zoey, Lilly, Nicole based on the fact we can commit to them and Quinn because DPC sees her as the antagonist. Anyone else on the others run may be nothing more than a foot note in the ending.

 

[Lagunavii]

or an extreme positive ending where MC acts like an angel if you choose every CHICK option.

This is the Cinderella run. Perfect Chick/Monk run will lead here

 

[Chillout1984]

DPC has said not all Others are going to get endings. We can make an educated guess at what girls will... Mainly Zoey, Lilly, Nicole based on the fact we can commit to them and Quinn because DPC sees her as the antagonist. Anyone else on the others run may be nothing more than a foot note in the ending.

With Others I'm pretty certain Riona and Cathy will also get their own endings, considering they have a path in the variables (unless Cathy is just a red herring for extra content on the jade route).

 

[Blue Milk]

there going to be like 50 endings probably two eps of endings like AL

All those endings were just in one episode though, the last one. He put all epilogues in a single episode and the 2nd last episode set up the main story ending of the last episode.

It is pretty much what I said earlier where we would have episodes that cover holidays and events such as valentines, spring break and finals with the final big bang being the epilogue episode.

Once he releases that final epilogue episode, he will start losing patreon supporters (Maybe not, summertime saga donors still exist btw) even if he starts reworking cause the entire thing is finished.

At the pace this story is going the final "big bang" episode is going to be way before any of those events and it might then skip to Spring Break as part of the last episode because the big plotlines, mainly the drugs one, surely aren't going to be dragged out until about May within the game. Consequences are and conclusions are coming faster than that.

And who cares if he loses patrons after the last episode? That's to be expected when you finish the thing people there for and he'll already have made out like out like a bandit by then thanks to all his revenue streams.

 

[Lagunavii]

With Others I'm pretty certain Riona and Cathy will also get their own endings, considering they have a path in the variables (unless Cathy is just a red herring for extra content on the jade route).

Id like to think Rio gets one too, esp considering how close she gets to MC in ep 10,

Cathy is definitely one I think will be a footnote, other than being a 3rd with Jade and MC she's pretty much done.

 

[Lagunavii]

At the pace this story is going the final "big bang" episode is going to be way before any of those events and it might then skip to Spring Break as part of the last episode because the big plotlines, mainly the drugs one, surely aren't going to be dragged out until about May within the game. Consequences are and conclusions are coming faster than that.

I've simply got no idea why people are insistant that we get to Spring Break. unless you're on the others path, It will not be the event people think it is... By Spring Break MC would be in a committed relationship with the MGs so spring break would likely consist of going away somewhere with his partner (some of which he's dropped the L bomb too) it's more likely to be told on rails than a massive freeroam

 

[Derek in a Bush]

Id like to think Rio gets one too, esp considering how close she gets to MC in ep 10,

Cathy is definitely one I think will be a footnote, other than being a 3rd with Jade and MC she's pretty much done.

If Rio doesn’t get one, DPC is truly chopped

 

[Blue Milk]

I admit that it would be pretty uncommon to spread epilogues out over multiple episodes/DLC, but it has been done before (I can think of 1 game but they charged money for the final epilogue dlc). Considering how many endings there could be however it could be expected to spread them over at least 2-3 epilogues/packs. What I currently think of:

- At least a DIK and CHICK ending per MG with probably a third independent ending based on TC. My guess is that NEUTRAL route's endings can be either the normal DIK or CHICK ending but maybe based on how many post-ep8 (or even total overall) major choices you made combined with your status
- 1-2 endings per SG that have a "confirmed" route
- Endings based on how often you had sex and with whom without ending in one of the above routes.
- Maybe 5 Zoey endings: 1 per switch from MG and 1 from others
- Maybe two "secret" fun endings: An extreme dark ending where MC comes a die-hard criminal like Vinny if you choose every DIK option (both major and minor), or an extreme positive ending where MC acts like an angel if you choose every CHICK option.

It's still possible that besides the already "confirmed" Bianca route and probable Cindy route, there will be more new last-minute routes added in episode 12 (Sally, Mel and Sarah come to mind, with if Sarah happens it will almost certainly be an open relationship)

Like Darkwen said, it could easily go to 50 and possibly even more.

Honestly, I see him going down the same route as AL with the endings in that a lot of the game's ending will be universal, it will just swap characters in and out of certain scenes based on your path and choices, then there will be the unique scenes which isn't much different to how branches already have their own uniques scenes. Most everything else like Affinity and some if not a lot of choices could probably easily just be covered with dialogue differences and the odd variation in renders.

All of that should probably make being able to do all the epilogues far less complex than if he were to make every path 100% unique, and sure, DPC may not necessarily go with such an easy route, but he is also someone we've seen plenty evidence of making many scenes mostly variable. So him making the epilogues mostly variable would fit too, imo, and make it very possible to do all endings in one episode, particularly the biggest ones like the MGs and the most prominent SGs. If he did any sort of DLC epilogues to add to it then it would probably be for characters like Cami, Mel, Sarah, Sally, etc, the extremely side girls.

 

[Chillout1984]

If Rio doesn’t get one, DPC is truly chopped

I'm pretty sure she will get one. The question is if Quinn's route will be mandatory or not, considering you currently only hear the truth from her and with that you send an extra message to Riona. I hope not, since many if not the majority of people who love Riona as a character, don't like to hate Quinn. I wish that when not on Quinn route, one of the first things that happens in ep 12 is MC getting a message from Riona if you're only on her route.

Honestly, I see him going down the same route as AL with the endings in that a lot of the game's ending will be universal, it will just swap characters in and out of certain scenes based on your path and choices, then there will be the unique scenes which isn't much different to how branches already have their own uniques scenes. Most everything else like Affinity and some if not a lot of choices could probably easily just be covered with dialogue differences and the odd variation in renders.

All of that should probably make being able to do all the epilogues far less complex than if he were to make every path 100% unique, and sure, DPC may not necessarily go with such an easy route, but he is also someone we've seen plenty evidence of making many scenes mostly variable. So him making the epilogues mostly variable would fit too, imo, and make it very possible to do all endings in one episode, particularly the biggest ones like the MGs and the most prominent SGs. If he did any sort of DLC epilogues to add to it then it would probably be for characters like Cami, Mel, Sarah, Sally, etc, the extremely side girls.

I doubt it, seeing that he stated he's pretty ambitious about the epilogues. I don't think he will take the same approach as he did in AL.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Every person of the Scooby Gang is, since they all need to help her because of her stupidity... The only one who did almost nothing except a bit of emotional support is Bella.

a person who thinks he has to read a document that can't exist is just as stupid as the person who signed it.

like if tomorrow your friend told you he bought a new car only the dealer told him he only had to listen to reggaeton tunes in it otherwise the engine could be ruined.

if you ask him to look at the car's registration I have bad news for you....

 

[FalconLover420]

I've simply got no idea why people are insistant that we get to Spring Break. unless you're on the others path, It will not be the event people think it is... By Spring Break MC would be in a committed relationship with the MGs so spring break would likely consist of going away somewhere with his partner (some of which he's dropped the L bomb too) it's more likely to be told on rails than a massive freeroam

Not for the others, but then again going by your rhetoric, there shouldn't have been a panty party since you have your LI and they don't join at all.

Panty Party was for those in the other paths and same thing should apply for the spring break since characters in the game hype it up

 

[Darkwen]

All those endings were just in one episode though, the last one. He put all epilogues in a single episode and the 2nd last episode set up the main story ending of the last episode.



At the pace this story is going the final "big bang" episode is going to be way before any of those events and it might then skip to Spring Break as part of the last episode because the big plotlines, mainly the drugs one, surely aren't going to be dragged out until about May within the game. Consequences are and conclusions are coming faster than that.

And who cares if he loses patrons after the last episode? That's to be expected when you finish the thing people there for and he'll already have made out like out like a bandit by then thanks to all his revenue streams.

Chances are 12 is the last normal ep and the rest will have little to no free roams and few choices so the major event could happen in 12 the rest of the game will just be watching the aftermath and endings for the most part

 

[Lagunavii]

All those endings were just in one episode though, the last one. He put all epilogues in a single episode and the 2nd last episode set up the main story ending of the last episode

I think based on language used this is what is plans are, obviously he mentions in the latest Q&A though that he has ambitious plans and can't give a episode count so I think he also knows this plan might run away from him and something Might need splitting.

 

[Blue Milk]

I've simply got no idea why people are insistant that we get to Spring Break. unless you're on the others path, It will not be the event people think it is... By Spring Break MC would be in a committed relationship with the MGs so spring break would likely consist of going away somewhere with his partner (some of which he's dropped the L bomb too) it's more likely to be told on rails than a massive freeroam

Because it just feels like a good respite point for the game after what could probably be a pretty heavy conclusion to the game's main events. They and the story may just need a good relaxing after what may go down and this would be it.

Also, I reject the notion that a committed MC can't have fun with his girl(s) on Spring Break and that it's somehow only advantageous to be a single, Others path, manwhore. He and the rest of his friends could all go to the same place and a committted MC can have fun with them and with his girl(s) there easily. And even if it is on-rails, so what? The whole of S4 might just be like that for all we know if there are going to be no minigames and our choices are now so baked in that we get no more. Not really an issue when you're at the endpoint.