VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[xsssssssss]

A question for you guys: Do any of you think we will finish the SageChad plotpoint anytime soon? I thought we would solve it in two episodes give or take, but not anymore, with the fuckbuddies thing going for Sage plus Neil's letter and the house repair going for the MC.

I think we'll find out the lover relatively soon
Even if the whole thing is resolved think we'll just remain technically fuckbuddies with sage for a long time

 

[clodth]

If you have the base game in version 4.0 or 4.1 or 4.2 or 5.0 you have to apply the 5.1 update patch (2 GB).

This is explained in the patch instructions.

"IMPORTANT NOTE!
This patch will only work for v0.4.0/v0.4.1/v0.4.2/v0.5.0.

Copy the content of the patch folder and paste it in the "game" folder to patch the game to v0.5.1.
Select "Yes" to overwrite the old files.
Launch the game.

If the main menu shows v0.5.1 in the bottom right corner, you did it right.
If it doesn't show v0.5.1, make sure that you put the .rpa files in the game folder containing other .rpa files.
See the patch_instructions_video for extra help.

Please note, if you have extracted any game files or modified the game, the patch will not work until you remove any folders and files that aren't in the original patreon version."

Edit :
If you have version 0.5.0 and want to upgrade, check my post on the previous page : #69,240

I install new 5.0 do all your steps, put all 5.1 files in /game folder + manually 3 rpa files, and still my version is 5.0

 

[Rinbael]

For me, it was one of those wait what? moment Quinn said that Riona was going through a lot more but if money has been an issue for Quinn why would she allow that? she's letting the merchandise go for free with Riona. But going easy on her despite knowing she's got to make that money back at first I thought Quinn had a good business plan but it's not good if you let your employees have a free for all with all the stock without paying.

That's Quinn's problem though she has no idea how to run a business and doesn't have any plan either. You can see that when she talks to that prep guy Rich and asks him for a ridiculous amount of money and is forced to reduce the cost by a lot. As far as we know she has mainly been seling to the Jocks who are morons and only using the drugs for herself, Tommy and Riona.

 

[xsssssssss]

That's Quinn's problem though she has no idea how to run a business and doesn't have any plan either. You can see that when she talks to that prep guy Rich and asks him for a ridiculous amount of money and is forced to reduce the cost by a lot. As far as we know she has mainly been seling to the Jocks who are morons and only using the drugs for herself, Tommy and Riona.

Or maybe Quinn asking for a ridiculous amount of money is due to her being desperate.
Personally i feel the revelation of selling jocks sugar bills is another sign of desperately cutting corners.
Perhaps its greed or getting overextended but i think its highly that she's getting squeezed herself(by dealer/someone else) and then is having to try more desperate ways of getting out of the hole.

 

[Mormont]

That's Quinn's problem though she has no idea how to run a business and doesn't have any plan either.

I'm not so sure about the no idea of running a business I think she has just made some poor choices. And with the whole plan thing, she does have a plan we just don't know what it is. Remember the scene when she is outside talking with Riona she points in the direction to someone off-screen about a plan B it's who was she pointing to this was when the feminists were having a protest and Derek got involved and Jade showed up.

 

[Rinbael]

I'm not so sure about the no idea of running a business I think she has just made some poor choices. And with the whole plan thing, she does have a plan we just don't know what it is. Remember the scene when she is outside talking with Riona she points in the direction to someone off-screen about a plan B it's who was she pointing to this was when the feminists were having a protest and Derek got involved and Jade showed up.

I forgot about that scene. But after the latest episode Im assuming she probably meant Tybalt and the preps since he is Jades son and she must know that.

 

[Aldy1995]

how to fight with big guy in episode 5 ???

 

[Holy Bacchus]

I can vouch for this. For some reason, people are fixated that one has to personally witness something to know anything - this really isn't the case.

As a person who moved schools every 2-3 years growing up (my dad was a diplomat, but army brats etc would tell you the same), I can confidently say that within a week at a new place I'd know exactly who had what rep, who the jokers were, who were bad losers in sports etc. without having to see it myself. Heck, as a 6th grader other 6th graders would tell me who the sluts were in the 12th grade before I'd even talked to a single 12th grader.

Knowing someone's reputation doesn't require being an eye-witness or even knowing what they specifically did to earn it. E.g They'd say "watch out for him, he likes to tell on people" and that's enough. They don't recite a list of examples.

Some info may prove wrong eventually but impressions are already formed.

But for someone to have a certain reputation, their actions have to be known by some in order to form that reputation of them. Of the now 9 major choices that apparently form this reputation, the most that might be widely known around campus is 5 and the least is 2.

1. Fighting Troy - Possibly known if Troy said anything to anyone, but being a typical guy, he probably didn't tell
2. Getting Quinn's number for her menu service - Unknown
3. Being nice to Steve - Unknown
4. Fighting the Jocks - Possibly known if the Jocks say anything, but much like Troy, they probably wouldn't want people to know that this upstart freshman went toe-to-toe with them
5. Partying at the Pink Rose - Unknown because the DIKs going to the Pink Rose isn't meant to be known outside of the DIKs
6. Accepting Jade's advances - Unknown
7. Smoking weed - Partially known, but unlikely to really be that big of a deal on a college campus
8. Fighting Caleb - Likely to become known
9. Punching Tybalt - Very likely to become known

The last 2, if you do them, are really the only ones that are likely to become widely known around campus but the other major choices are either unknown or it's unclear if they're known. Also, when it comes the M&J decision, there are only 2 decisions that could really have shaped any kind of reputation at this point and it still doesn't match up to the fact that the MC can do everything positive with them but get rejected on the basis of things they wouldn't know anything about.

So the idea that these actions that affect affinity form the MC's reputation on campus and that this is how people view him doesn't hold up. How can he have a reputation based on things that people don't necessarily know about that would form their opinion of him? The MC, in terms of both major and minor decisions, hasn't really done anything to make him stand out from the crowd and garner any kind of well-known reputation around campus; he's still just a small fish in a very big pond.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Is the one on steam being Updated as well? I was thinking of buying it on there to show my support.

Steam only gets full season not individual episodes.

1) Does RP actually DO anything in the game as it presently stands? Because it seems to me that if you know how to play the status + affinity system properly, the rest doesn't really seem to matter.

Not really, no. So far it's only really mattered with Maya's scene in ep 3, but doesn't seem much bearing anywhere else.

 

[Darkdevil66]

Personally i think she's fobbing off tommy and there's something else going on that's causing the desperate straits financially.

It's also possible. The main problem seems to be Quinn's behaviour. She made too much assumptions without considering things couldn't go as planned. They weren't so short on cash in ep3 and she assumed the next big ordering for the alpha and involving more girls will cover the losses. But then, the Alpha stopped orderings pills and she accepted new pledges, which isn't a smart move considering Lily will not be as malleable as Camila, and Ashley and Josy don't really fit her secrets activities. She didn't even consider the possibility the preps could refuse her terms.

Besides, we don't even know if the prostitution is so rentable this year. Maya didn't do anything, Mona is out, Josy and Lily won't probably accept. I guess she accepted Josy to have a pressure point on Tommy but right now she isn't really valuable.

Due to her reckless nature, Quinn could also have invested money in someting without telling Riona.

 

[Rinbael]

It's also possible. The main problem seems to be Quinn's behaviour. She made too much assumptions without considering things couldn't go as planned. They weren't so short on cash in ep3 and she assumed the next big ordering for the alpha and involving more girls will cover the losses. But then, the Alpha stopped orderings pills and she accepted new pledges, which isn't a smart move considering Lily will not be as malleable as Camila, and Ashley and Josy don't really fit her secrets activities. She didn't even consider the possibility the preps could refuse her terms.

Besides, we don't even know if the prostitution is so rentable this year. Maya didn't do anything, Mona is out, Josy and Lily won't probably accept. I guess she accepted Josy to have a pressure point on Tommy but right now she isn't really valuable.

Due to her reckless nature, Quinn could also have invested money in someting without telling Riona.

Since Tommy told her to fuck off the Josy thing might either make her more valuable or useless depending on if Tommy actually cares about Josy or not. I think the money might have been used to buy harder drugs that you see her injecting and convincing Tommy to use and Riona might not know about them.

 

[Mormont]

I forgot about that scene. But after the latest episode Im assuming she probably meant Tybalt and the preps since he is Jades son and she must know that.

I guess she must have been banking on the preps to bring in that much-needed income but even so, it seems that she is very limited to the kind of drugs she can get hold of.

 

[Rinbael]

I guess she must have been banking on the preps to bring in that much-needed income but even so, it seems that she is very limited to the kind of drugs she can get hold of.

Yeah it seems kind of inconsistent since she somehow cant get a hold of cocaine for the preps but is able to get drugs that require a needle which I guess is heroine or something like that.

 

[mpa71]

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[Irgendwie Irgendwo]

Hello, I am about to start chapter 4 and I have noticed that there are 3 branches, which one should I choose? Which is the best option: Derek, Isabella or Sage?

I did it the pragmatic way with my three saves: Derek on the neutral / have fun save, Sage on the DIK, Isabella on the CHICK save.

But for someone to have a certain reputation, their actions have to be known by some in order to form that reputation of them. Of the now 9 major choices that apparently form this reputation, the most that might be widely known around campus is 5 and the least is 2.

1. Fighting Troy - Possibly known if Troy said anything to anyone, but being a typical guy, he probably didn't tell
2. Getting Quinn's number for her menu service - Unknown
3. Being nice to Steve - Unknown
4. Fighting the Jocks - Possibly known if the Jocks say anything, but much like Troy, they probably wouldn't want people to know that this upstart freshman went toe-to-toe with them
5. Partying at the Pink Rose - Unknown because the DIKs going to the Pink Rose isn't meant to be known outside of the DIKs
6. Accepting Jade's advances - Unknown
7. Smoking weed - Partially known, but unlikely to really be that big of a deal on a college campus
8. Fighting Caleb - Likely to become known
9. Punching Tybalt - Very likely to become known

To play Devil's Advocate:
1 But somebody may have asked him about his black eye offscreen.
2 Not getting the number, actually calling - the girls might talk among themselves how the experience was.
4 Led to the destroying of the Delta Iota Kappa mansion, people may get inquisitive about the chain of events. Also, the whole campus can see the beef between MC and the Triple-Alphas on Rooster.
5 We now have one of the Pink Rose strippers on campus.
6 You can elect to tell Derek, and it may come up during the board evaluation. I wouldn't know, I did not tell Derek and let him have fun with the old lady.

 

[xsssssssss]

Yeah it seems kind of inconsistent since she somehow cant get a hold of cocaine for the preps but is able to get drugs that require a needle which I guess is heroine or something like that.

We don't know what's going on it in terms of the drugs supply & where she fits into it other than being the campus supplier. It could be she needs to sell a certain amount if weed which is why she says she says she can't get cocaine.

 

[Djarmy]

my save file is not working

 

[Rinbael]

We don't know what's going on it in terms of the drugs supply & where she fits into it other than being the campus supplier. It could be she needs to sell a certain amount if weed which is why she says she says she can't get cocaine.

Yeah that could be possible. I just hope we get some flasbacks that show how Quinns business works and how she started it right now its still quite vague and we also dont really know much about her either I think she really needs more backstory.

 

[jackofshadows]

Guys, what do you think, are we going to see Zoey in one of the next episodes?
I think it would be cool to get another scene with her. Maybe some kind of ending with her, if we don’t pick any of the girls.

Before ep5 I was 100% sure she's Chechov's gun similiar to ex from AL but after hearing Isabella backstory I'm thinking maybe Zoey's just a red herring, nothing more. She probably will appear briefly anyway but w/o any major impact on the story.

I still disagree with this. According to you a Full DIK run has to be insincere when he says nice things, right? So assholes can't ever be nice and Nice guys can't ever be assholes? Or if they do their lying? To black and white. It doesn't work that way, the world has never worked that way

It was just one possible interpretation, please don't extrapolate it like that.

Nah, some people are just assholes and they are that way for their entire lives, never changing or getting better. Tommy seems like one of those people.

Yes but it's a game we're talking about. A game where some characters has depth and some are paperthin dolls. To which caterogry we shall classify Tommy at the end is not clear yet.

A prime example of how this system is surreal:
I have 12 points in DIK and have DIK affinity by choosing to smoke. I get rejected by Maya&Josy.

I still have 12 points in DIK and have NEUTRAL affinity by choosing not to smoke. Maya&Josy accept me.

If you can't see how this is too surreal, them i don't know how to explain.

Actually it's a terrible example even in case of this particular point being defying for affinity because yeah, MC might be talking to them after smoking a weed and despite that he'd be no longer high they could easily smell it. Not to mention some possible drawback, bloodshot eyes a bit etc.

See this is what I'm referring to. This is my Pure chick run and at the rate I'm going I am literally going to be unable to perform a single DIK action by the end of EP6 View attachment 690971 I'm going to have to start making DIK choices just to keep the flex open

That's not how it works. Actions are still will appear, it just status will be capped but how exactly is impossible to tell yet. Judging by current state I'd say it will be 5/-5 for the opposite side (instead of 20) or 0 after 2 neutral points will be gone as well.

The simple truth is that most of the Major choices would never be known by anyone other than the people there. Jade doesn't run tell the LI's that she rubbed her students dick in class, Steve doesn't run to B&R to tell everyone whether the MC talked to him or not, etc. etc. Almost none of those Major Choices would be known to anyone but those people there at the time and almost none of them are LI's. I agree with Holy Bacchus and ename144 the system is unrealistic

Of course it's unrealistic but first - the whole interpretation affinity=reputation should be discarded, it weren't designed that way, obviously. Second - imo it's merely a roleplay tool and I think it's actually good at that. Game is supposed to be played once and w/o any meta-knowledge (i.e. going full blind). That way system adds flavour a lot and apart from possible narrative inconsistency it spice things up in contrast to possible focus on RP like it usually done in similiar VNs.

she's letting the merchandise go for free with Riona.

Eh, it's probably just a lie. I wouldn't be suprised if turns out Quinn herself is basically the sole reason for 'shortness'.

 

[ename144]

I still don't get that I know Riona is a close friend and everything but why is Quinn letting her use up most of the drugs without paying for it?

I always took that scene as a clear indication Quinn was lying to Tommy. If Quinn was willing to slap Riona, I very much doubt she would avoid correctly blaming Riona for the shortfall just to preserve her feelings. To me, the picture we get is that Quinn knows what caused the shortfall, but will not admit it even to her close allies.

The most likely explanation in that case is that Quinn herself is cause, probably by using drugs without paying. We know she uses high quality drugs (at least by her and Riona's estimation), and Quinn's business skills are looking pretty bad. So I could definitely see her smoking/injecting her way into bigger trouble. In fact, the whole drug dealing job might have started as an excuse to get drugs herself; now she is now forced to try it for real thanks to the shortfall, with predictable results.

We might see more in Episode 6, when Quinn needs to pay her dealer. Otherwise, it's just one more topic for speculation.