VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Holy Bacchus]

it won't be impossible, but it is still very uncommon.

MC has a father to ask, and Neil should have given him some explanations in order not to answer him, if he had refused to answer him this would have created tension, curiosity about the matter, and it does not seem to be so

Neil may have lied to him, even in this case there must be a reason, and in any case if he had lied to him MC would still know his mother's surname, the fake one he was told, but he would be convinced that he knew.
it is very different not to know something, or to be convinced that you know it

and all this unlikely and dramatic situation would serve to make MC discover that he is a Burgmeister, who apart from exchanging Christmas greetings with Rusty, that would have additional consequences to the simple fact of belonging to a wealthy family (which he is already aware of) ?

The MC has seemingly asked Neil over the years, but his "memory" isn't so good and he never gives the MC a clear, straight answer, instead he goes off on tangents and mentions a lot of irrelevant details that ends up frustrating the MC. This much is made clear in ep 1 when we get a bit of the story of how the parents met and it's likely one of the reasons why the MC doesn't ask much about her.

Again, it doesn't seem the MC knows his mother's surname at all. In that story Neil tells, all the details are vague about who this "rich family" was and that's likely very much done on purpose. I see no reason why he absolutely has to have known what her surname was all this time because it's not exactly an important detail to know. He knows her first name and that's enough for him.

If the MC is revealed to be a Burgmeister, it opens up some very interesing angles, some of which can still work him gaining an inheritance and not the name of one of the college founders, but having that name would make these things even more impactful as it at least gives the sense of him having a higher standing than if he was just some random rich family legacy.

Only if you assume that Derek shoving a piece of cake into MC's mouth is part of MC's birthday celebration and not a do-over for the end of Hell Week. We know that some of the Diks feel bad about how Hell Week ended, it's far from inconceivable that they'd try to throw together a do-over.

The words "happy birthday" are literally in the tweet.

Apply Occam's razor and see if your hypothesis still works.

It may be fairly common for kids to grow up not knowing who their parents are but nothing we've been shown even hints at that scenario.

We know that he knows his mother's first name and that his Dad is an apparent terrible story teller when it comes to telling the tale of how he and Lynette got together and only ever says she came from a "rich family". Her family name isn't mentioned and that's likely deliberate on the part of DPC as it indicates that not only the MC doesn't know, but that it will be a consequential detail to be revealed later on.

You don't really believe this do you? I don't have the best relationship with my parents but I know they wouldn't let me attend a college founded by my great-grandparents without warning me that some of the students might be my cousins.

Yes, I do. A college campus is a big place and the MC comes from a completely lower social standing than the rich families of the college's founding fathers, so Neil probably doesn't think there's any chance he'd ever meet them since they would typically run in different circles. But, plot contrivances being what they are, he has interacted with them when most people in the MC's position aren't normally likely to hang out with the rich legacy kids. It's like if someone like him attended the same college as a member of the Walton family; in the real-world, there's very little chance they'd ever meet due to their different social standings.

The thing always has been for me that, if Neil is indeed keeping such a secret from the MC, even when faced with him attending B&R and the small likelihood of running into distant relatives, then he must have a damn good (or at least justifiable) reason for not telling him and also for hoping that the secret can be kept despite these things.

 

[lemonfreak]

When is the new update coming?

I, and my fellow time travellers, cannot reveal that information for fear of contaminating the timeline

 

[lemonfreak]

The words "happy birthday" are literally in the tweet.

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Yes and I've just remembered that you've pointed this out to me before so feel free to hit me with a shitload of facepalms

In fairness to me, it could be in reference to MC's birth as a full-fledged Dik brother but, even if that turns out to be correct, I'd still be wrong because it isn't something I could deduce from the available evidence.

Yes, I do. A college campus is a big place and the MC comes from a completely lower social standing than the rich families of the college's founding fathers, so Neil probably doesn't think there's any chance he'd ever meet them since they would typically run in different circles. But, plot contrivances being what they are, he has interacted with them when most people in the MC's position aren't normally likely to hang out with the rich legacy kids. It's like if someone like him attended the same college as a member of the Walton family; in the real-world, there's very little chance they'd ever meet due to their different social standings.

The thing always has been for me that, if Neil is indeed keeping such a secret from the MC, even when faced with him attending B&R and the small likelihood of running into distant relatives, then he must have a damn good (or at least justifiable) reason for not telling him and also for hoping that the secret can be kept despite these things.

I'm curious, how big is B&R? The highest dorm room number we've been shown is in the 70s, meaning that, given 2 students per room plus those living in the frat houses and a few living off-campus, there are likely fewer than 200 students attending the college.

 

[Wizard_Shiryuu]

Yes and I've just remembered that you've pointed this out to me before so feel free to hit me with a shitload of facepalms

In fairness to me, it could be in reference to MC's birth as a full-fledged Dik brother but, even if that turns out to be correct, I'd still be wrong because it isn't something I could deduce from the available evidence.

And the part about the vagina around his neck? C'mon

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Yes and I've just remembered that you've pointed this out to me before so feel free to hit me with a shitload of facepalms

In fairness to me, it could be in reference to MC's birth as a full-fledged Dik brother but, even if that turns out to be correct, I'd still be wrong because it isn't something I could deduce from the available evidence.

Nah, no facepalm, but I'll give you one of these: .

And the part about the vagina around his neck? C'mon

Must be one hell of a party.

 

[evertonv60]

When is the new update coming?

late September or early October

 

[lemonfreak]

And the part about the vagina around his neck? C'mon

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[lookgod]

like to know the Top Rank Game

 

[Cigar-Ferras]

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That's one thing i could have done without seeing on a Sunday .....

 

[felicemastronzo]

I think Rusty would disagree. I imagine he'd be thrilled to find out the MC is a cousin.



I think you don't understand what it means to grow up under the poverty line. Such questions are a luxury for someone who struggles daily.

Would asking your father for your mother's surname be a luxury?

I personally think making the MC a Burg would just confirm my own opinions on DPC's writing.....I really hope it doesn't go in that direction, it's just too easy and lame. I can't see it happening though.

and useless

The MC has seemingly asked Neil over the years, but his "memory" isn't so good and he never gives the MC a clear, straight answer, instead he goes off on tangents and mentions a lot of irrelevant details that ends up frustrating the MC. This much is made clear in ep 1 when we get a bit of the story of how the parents met and it's likely one of the reasons why the MC doesn't ask much about her.

Doesn't Neil remember his wife's last name?

and can he work as a carpenter? !!

we are at the level of basic information, which I doubt MC can not get the same even without the help of the father (who should still justify his choice)

 

[lemonfreak]

like to know the Top Rank Game

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[flippityflop]

I personally think making the MC a Burg would just confirm my own opinions on DPC's writing.....I really hope it doesn't go in that direction, it's just too easy and lame. I can't see it happening though.

Please don't take this the wrong way, but I think we're all very much aware of your opinion on DPC's writing. There's really no need to bring that up at every opportunity you get. It's getting a bit excessive at this point.

 

[Cigar-Ferras]

Here you go, I've placed it in spoiler tags due to the size and it being off topic

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Fucking twice today .... in 5 mins! Damn you sir! lol

 

[AchedCroissant]

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[Holy Bacchus]

I personally think making the MC a Burg would just confirm my own opinions on DPC's writing.....I really hope it doesn't go in that direction, it's just too easy and lame. I can't see it happening though.

As I'm surely is plainly evident by now, I have absolutely no problem if this were to be the case because I actually think it would be a very good twist for all that it could do to affect the dynamic of the story and the MC's relationships with certain characters.

I also don't think it's fair to say that predictability makes someone a bad writer. After all, this story is still incredibly engaging and intriguing in a lot of ways and people have very strong opinions and views on the characters and the story itself. To be able to do that is, for me, the mark of a great writer; to be able to make your audience care that much because they've put so much effort into crafting a rich story with characters that people have come to care for so deeply.

 

[moskyx]

I just can't understand why so many countries use just the father's surname. Quite convenient for plot twists like this one, though. But seriously, it doesn't make any sense from a lot of perspectives

 

[felicemastronzo]

I just can't understand why so many countries use just the father's surname. Quite convenient for plot twists like this one, though. But seriously, it doesn't make any sense from a lot of perspectives

this habit rarely creates twists, in incest porn it happens more often

 

[AchedCroissant]

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[lemonfreak]

As I'm surely is plainly evident by now, I have absolutely no problem if this were to be the case because I actually think it would be a very good twist for all that it could do to affect the dynamic of the story and the MC's relationships with certain characters.

I also don't think it's fair to say that predictability makes someone a bad writer. After all, this story is still incredibly engaging and intriguing in a lot of ways and people have very strong opinions and views on the characters and the story itself. To be able to do that is, for me, the mark of a great writer; to be able to make your audience care that much because they've put so much effort into crafting a rich story with characters that people have come to care for so deeply.

My issue with MC being a Burg is that it would take a big world and make it small; I have the same issue with Star Wars (I don't need Chewie in Revenge of the Sith, nor do I need Rey to be related to an established Force user, especially as it is long established that Jedi are celibate and using the Force is actually really easy for those with a high midi-chlorian count)

 

[flippityflop]

I like you flip...but are we not allowed opinions now on what I personally think would be a terrible writing decision? (as it's the current topic of conversation). People repeat shit all the time here...

Of course we are allowed opinions. But you keep bringing up your displeasure with his writing in general. And that doesn't help anyone.
Writing DPC an open letter with your constructive criticism would be a much more productive and healthier way to vent your frustration.