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Might still be a closeted gay?
No, I actually it might have been a team effort from the HOTs, with Quinn, reluctantly backed up by Riona, wanting him and Sage broken up so it would send Sage spiraling and get her depressed and asking for help from other HOTs (Sarah and Mel) to tempt him and make him cheat, which could explain the satisfied look Mel has during the break up scene as well as her being concerned for her safety as Sage could go psycho when she finds out.
(I hope this theory hasn't been made before, I didn't go through all 6k pages to find out, sorry if it has)
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You'll survive. This is like the third time this month anyways. You defeat stage 5 cancer the way fat chicks defeat chocolate cake.
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When we first meet Chad he’s a total jackass, manhandling Sage in the cafeteria, but who knows, he was trying to talk to her and she didn’t want to listen, perhaps if she listened a lot of drama could have been avoided.
Then we meet him again and he’s all up in the mc’s face about him trying to steal his girl, considering he was there before Sage sat down, and Chad would have seen that, he was just being a jackass again. Then Dawe wedgies the mc, at that point it’s war on the jocks.
Then the jocks, helmed by Chad, smash the DIK’s property because the HOTs want to party with them. They don’t own the HOTs, what kind of chauvinistic Neanderthals are they?
Then the Mc is caught snooping, but there’s no altercation with Chad at that time. Just a few other jocks hitting the floor.
Then we find out Chad is being blackmailed, and suddenly we see him as a victim? Fuck him. The next thing he does is cowardly attack the Mc (and lose - haha, beat your face in ya juice box!).
Nope, if he tries to extend an olive branch and my mc has an option, it’ll be to tell him where to stick it.
Chad is just a cheating (i.e. steroid using), loser who thinks Sage is his property and he can just attack people when he’s not getting his way. Let him burn!
Though, placating Chad slightly may make him a useful idiot later on. Plus you send him a signal you aren't hiding behind teachers.
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Not even close. I have 25 pages of saves. None of them are named. Everytime i see a scene with a girl with an outfit i like i save it. Every time i do a new playthrough i make 10 saves more. Is pure chaos. And all of them are useless now couse i have the cheat mod.
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Kinda, I separate paths/afinity by page and name them all like u did.
Edit: For the ones I've done. M&j is on the first page last saved shortly after the dorm room blowup
ima have to redo it anyways because it's dik afinity...... eventually...
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Replaying the sixth cepisode for the first time since the release was a curious experience as there were things that bothered me then that didn't seem that big this time around, while some aspects perhaps stood out even more. However there is a decision at the end that still drove me absolutely nuts. Now, my complaints about the game would be nothing new, especially since it related to the Josie/Maya story, but I still wanted to get the rant of my chest. I did decide to put it under the spoiler just to save some space and that those just here to be positive about the game can easily skip it.
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I thought there were sex scenes with Josy and Maya (that didn’t include the mc).
Of course they discuss the mc during those scenes, but that’s because this isn’t just a novel, it’s a game, where talking about the Mc elicits thoughts from the players that they themselves are being spoken about, so stroking the mc’s ego will result in stroking the players ego which will result in the player enjoying the game.
Also, while Maya does seem very excited about her new sexual relationship with the MC, there’s nothing surprising about that. She thought she was gay and now she’s finding out she’s bi, she loves Josy but the excitement of a new sexual relationship unfortunately often trumps that of an exisiting one.
While it may be ironic that the fathers efforts to keep Josy and Maya apart have resulted in Maya finding the Mc, that doesn’t diminish Maya’s love for Josy, the only options so far are for Maya and Josy to stay as a couple or for them to include the mc, so it just leads to another relationship that the father would have issues with.
An important point here is the father shouldn’t try to control his adult daughter’s relationships. That’s not to say that parents shouldn’t dispense advice to their adult children, but they shouldn’t control them.
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I save when every new scene starts and during some major or branching choices. so i have more than 200 pages of saves.
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I will also add the fact that Maya isn't really into dudes. Mc is the only exception. Also as far as pda, most of what you see of Maya and josy(aside from mc being involved) is among people their trying to hide the fact that they are together from.
The flashback of Maya and josy also shows the kinda girl she is, if you notice its josy that instigates affection as well as mc in their interactions. these two facts show she a more reserved, shy kinda girl.
(And this is coming from someone who is not a Maya or Josy fanboy.)
Edit: these characters are multilayered(more so than most other avns out there) so you kinda have to dig into them to see all the layers.
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Great thought. It's a discussion between narrative and "realism". I think the author has increasingly gone for drama rather than keeping certain things within what may or may not happen in real life. What's worse, is that most of those decisions are made just with Maya and her story, we rely almost exclusively on suspension of disbelief.
I am not going to try to defend the story by comparing it with personal experiences, not even to defend it with the logic of the universe that DPC created. I find it more interesting to write how much we can allow ourselves to believe that what happens can happen, believing first in the good work of the author, and then trying to believe in the logic imposed by the story.
Once we can believe that this universe is "alive", then we can believe that while the MC is away, the life of the LI, side girl or even all the other male characters, goes on, and in that goes on things that would be normal for men and women of that age.
The thing with the Maya/Josie scene is that it only triggers if the MC in a relationship with the two of them. Hence even that scene only exists in a version where the two cannot stop expressing their lust for the MC. If you do not pursue them, there is nothing in the game to indicate that they have any affection to each other, yet that end scene that asks for the player to accept this problem exists in itself.
As I don't know how to multi-quote, I'll tie another comment to this as well. I would agree that the game has a lot of layered characters. For me, you can make that argument about Sage, Isabella, Quinn, Jill and even the teachers. This doesn't necessarily mean that they were all well and badly told stories, just that they have multiple elements to their characters. This does not apply to Josie and Maya who are extremely superficial characters. The issue is that their whole story arc is tied to this 'forbidden' love they have for each other. Except in the reality presented by the game, it doesn't exist at all. Both of them are utterly driven by how much they want to have sex with the MC. The game constantly the stakes of their story and instead of addressing that despite the criticism, the author just doubles down on it.
Also, I want to repeat this, what diminishes their love for each other is that it does not exist in the game. This goes beyond PDA, I could accept them not showing that, but rather in every scene where they have an opportunity to show how much they much they mean to each other, the game makes it how much more each of them values the MC over each other.
recently was replaying the macos version of this game and noticed that i don't have access to the petname app on the phone, any ideas for a solution? the app is just greyed out and won't let me click on it
Yeah, it's not expect realism from these games, they are fantasy fulfillment after all. But this comment really encapsulates my issue as it isn't just suspension of disbelief based on real world, but from what the game chooses to show and tell us. The thing is that if this is the story DPC wanted to tell, then we need to be base our view on the components he chooses to show us about it instead of what we can imagine to fill the blank spots.
To use a positive example, I think the game does a good job with the teacher characters and does the work to show their emotional landscape that would cause them to risk so much by having an affair with a student. But, as pointed out, it also makes the stumbles in the Maya storyline stand out even more.
By the way, writing this, I keep coming back what bothers me the most is not the argued failure of the Maya storyline as not all stories work like intended. That just happens. But that rather that it doesn't feel like there's even a good faith attempt at looking at if it works. To give an example, and I won't name the game because I don't want to make it a competition argument, there is a very successul adult game in development posted on this site that also focuses on character arcs. In that game, there is a character that has been received much more coolly than a lot of the others and even the author themself has joked about it. However, what they did was that instead of just giving up, they added scenes and fleshed character out more to give it more depth and at least try to that story in a direction that they envisioned instead of just pushing on.
Again, it's not that I'm claiming DPC should give up on this storyline, it's his game, but rather considering all the criiticsm the Maya storyline has gotten, even if there are fans of it, the utter lack of effort to address those issues is weird.
I see your point and kinda agree. What I think here is that the story follows the MC. You get the Maya Josy scene only if the MC stays with them. In which case of course the MC will be a subject they revolve around. If the player decide to be just friends, then the story will follow the MC and not the girls. In some scenes they show affection for eachother (library, flashback). I personally do not need them to hang on eachothers tounge all the time to get that they are together. As for Mayas sexuality, it still unceirtain. She has some kind of affection towards the MC but at the full on sex scene the only comment she made was that, it feels wierd. Which gives me an interest on how this will turn out.
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Whether or not you agree with how it unfolds, it's the story he wants to tell, regardless of the fans, this story starts with Josy and Maya, and no matter how much you want to step aside, that story runs through the entire game until the end of episode 6.
And it will continue to run through the rest of the game.
After this and the need to believe that while the MC is not there, things continue to happen, it is clearly a matter of taste, while I see many virtues in the story of the game and I believe that things happen in the empty spaces, you see fallacies and that nothing exists beyond what the MC sees.
For example, after the discussion at the end of episode 3/beginning of episode 4, neither of them ran after the MC, they sat down to talk, as if nothing had happened 5 minutes before, and they reached an understanding very quickly, because what they felt exists and is there... otherwise either of them would have gone out to tackle the MC. They live in the same room, they even live together in the scavenger hunt. During all that time that the MC doesn't see... nothing happens between them?
I'm not going to try to convince you, I'm just expressing my opinion, which is as wrong as anyone else's.