VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[EmperorGus]

No I'm just exploring the motivations of a character, I mean other than just writing her off as pure evil which is something I would expect from the very worst writing.

Where are you grabbing 'pure evil' from??
Is Quinn evil? Yes!
Pure evil (setting aside that no such thing exists)? Nah.
DPC puts a few moments in the game where Q shows some degree of compassion/understanding.
But those moments don't balance out the nasty shit she does.

Motivations?
Yes. We got a chunk of her backstory. And that makes her actions more understandable.
But it does not make those actions excusable.

...
Even this guy, you think he cares about this shiit? Of course not. He admit himself he dislike Maya after chapter 3.

Ummm?
You quoted me in your post.. so am I supposed to be the 'this guy' that dislikes Maya??
Not sure where you're getting that. I don't remember ever saying it. It'd be weird if I did, because she's one of my favs.

 

[ChipLecsap]

You forgot the most important thing. Maya is closer to the MC than Quinn and Quinn wants the MC.

This... Surprisingly ... less crazy than usual. are you feel okay ? Everything okay? Are you doing less drugs? So, cool, man I'm proud of you , . I'm happy. even DavDR is showing some slight change, now he is willing to try to understand something, see it from different sperpective.
I knew this day will come

 

[The Pink Royce]

Pure evil (setting aside that no such thing exists)? Nah.

 

[Laport Deminis]

Which is more human garbage for you a women which earn money form sexual favor or someone which wanted to snatch that money.

Don't be blind, just because you like some character.

If that hots are sluts then what maya is?

What she did with mc at then end of chapter one.

If you call hots bunch of sluts then maya is worse of them.

Ok, first let's take "human garbage" out of the argument. For me there is not such thing, and certanely even if there is, sluts are not. And noone call them human garbage untill you came, not Maya, not me, not noone.

Second, thnks for call me blind but pass. Also you are wrong.

Third, do you get what slut means? Is not just a way of disaproving people. Means you are sexually opened, and Maya is not, and the Hots, yes they are. So who is more slut? The HOT's. Is simple.
Now, if the best claim you have against Maya, the unforgiveble thing you have against her is that she joins the HOT's for money even if she didn't like them. If that's the best you have against her is that.... first let me laugh a little:




Wait, wait, a little more:





Almoast there.




Ok, enough.
5 billons of workers do the same every day.


You cant throw shit to someone without regard of what you are saying has some sense.

Ummm?
You quoted me in your post.. so am I supposed to be the 'this guy' that dislikes Maya??
Not sure where you're getting that. I don't remember ever saying it. It'd be weird if I did, because she's one of my favs.

Sorry, i wasnt talking of you ofc. I cant even stand to quote that guy, the less i see his name the happier i am.

 

[Abhishek_tanwar]

Yeah but he is not Maya so Maya haters dont give a fuck.
Thats how it work. I will explain to you.

Maya trust his father. She is unvelieble stupid.
Sage trust Quinn. Noone gives a fuck, she is awesome.

Maya dislike the HOT's. She is such a hypocrite.
Quinn dislike Maya. Is Maya fault.

Maya want someone to pay for her education. She is a lazy whiner and unbelieveble stupid.
Everyone else get someone to pay for their education. That's cool.

Maya wake up the MC with some nasty action. She is a rapist.
Sage wake up the MC with some nasty action. Thats hot.

Maya lie to the MC. She is a manipulative liar.
Everyone else lie all the time. Hey, dont blame the player, blame the game.

Maya has two affairs. She is a cheater, you cant trust her.
The MC has 20 affairs. Boys will be boys?

Maya flirt with the MC. She is using him.
Everyone else flirts with the MC. Natural, its a porn game.

So stop trying to use bullshit things like logic or common sense.

Maya trust his father. She is unvelieble stupid.
Sage trust Quinn. Noone gives a fuck, she is awesome.
(Because she (sage) is not a cry baby and if she don't like something she take matter i her own hands)

Maya dislike the HOT's. She is such a hypocrite.
Quinn dislike Maya. Is Maya fault.
(She(quinn) neither hide it nor she is not a double face snake like maya which wants her father money but everything spouse to be her way. Yes maya is hypocrite.)

Maya want someone to pay for her education. She is a lazy whiner and unbelievable stupid.
Everyone else get someone to pay for their education. That's cool.
(Have you even play the game ? Mc got lone for his education and hots have their own for tuition payment, josy fees paid by her father. None of these character are crying they took shit own their own face.)

Maya wake up the MC with some nasty action. She is a rapist.
Sage wake up the MC with some nasty action. Thats hot.
(It's feel like you are the one which becoming hypocrite because sage ask mc if he like that or not. Againg have you played the game ?)

Maya lie to the MC. She is a manipulative liar.
Everyone else lie all the time. Hey, dont blame the player, blame the game.
(Who lied ? Josy, she told mc about having a relation on the first date. how much honesty you want ?
Mc : have given every choice to not lie by taking right action, which I can prove choice by choice and not engaging with maya and josy.
Even camila told mc about being in sexual favor for money. Mc told jill about his relation on his date there are many example , you just need to stop looking things from maya's point of view .)

Maya has two affairs. She is a cheater, you cant trust her.
The MC has 20 affairs. Boys will be boys?
(Are you that desperate to make an argument. Choices are given to mc who he want to engage with is upto player so don't try to band truth. That make you look stupid.
To prove my point as i played, my mc only fucked riona and quinn on being quinn path so no you are completely wrong.)

Maya flirt with the MC. She is using him.
Everyone else flirts with the MC. Natural, its a porn game.
(Yeah she forge great relation with mc in chapter one so she can make sure mc get electric shock in head. You are right didn't used him. )

So stop trying to use bullshit things like logic or common sense.
(You are no body to tell anyone that what to tell or not tell. It's upto individual person and it's upto platform to decided the rules.)

Ok, first let's take "human garbage" out of the argument. For me there is not such thing, and certanely even if there is, sluts are not. And noone call them human garbage untill you came, not Maya, not me, not noone.

Second, thnks for call me blind but pass. Also you are wrong.

Third, do you get what slut means? Is not just a way of disaproving people. Means you are sexually opened, and Maya is not, and the Hots, yes they are. So who is more slut? The HOT's. Is simple.
Now, if the best claim you have against Maya, the unforgivable thing you have against her is that she joins the HOT's for money even if she didn't like them. If that's the best you have against her is that.... first let me laugh a little:

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Wait, wait, a little more:

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Almoast there.

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Ok, enough.
5 billons of workers do the same every day.


You cant throw shit to someone without regard of what you are saying has some sense.




Sorry, i wasnt talking of you ofc. I cant even stand to quote that guy, the less i see his name the happier i am.

Yes you are desperate !

Third, do you get what slut means? Is not just a way of disproving people. Means you are sexually opened, and Maya is not, and the Hots, yes they are. So who is more slut? The HOT's. Is simple.
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No you are wrong ! Being sexually one is individual person business they are not slut until they they lie about to other person in the cause where someone can get personally affected. That is why women can have as many relation for fuck they wants but after marriage they do this ?
Then yes they are slut or whore or what not .

But 5 billion worker are doing that for family and for personally issue and do not cut the tree branch they stand on or hate it. Do understand that ?

 

[Abhishek_tanwar]

And this is as close as human garbage as you can get, still not human garbage.
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Sage : Yes she is not ! she had did fight for her relation, did she not put mc at risk for that ? She is willing to take any action, she is didn't cry in the corner of her room. Did she like maya did (Do i need to remind you even that ?) ?

Did you call me human garbage just because i told you truth. I hope you are not snow flak in real life but I hope just good for you.
(It's quite funny you called me human garbage just for a game character ? That tell me a lots about you.)

Running away it seems . . . hmm . . . nothing new.

 

[ename144]

Newbie to this game with a question:

For somebody like me who has seen almost every fetish in this site and around the Interwebs, is it worth it to play this game which looks (please pardon the term and don't lynch me) Vanilla and bland at first glance? I really don't see the appeal at first glance and it looks like any run-of-the mill VN...

I don't trust the ''reviews'' for this game either because it feels like one massive circle jerk circus IMHO...

Sorry for the skepticism but seeing this game with tons of likes just intrigues me when it looks like a vanilla ''College guy with infinite libido magically gets all the girls'' type of game...

You're asking an extremely busy forum dedicated to the game if the game is worth playing; of course we're overwhelmingly going to say yes!

If you're only interested in kinks, the game might fall flat for you. If you're interested in characters, story, sexy renders, high production values, or just generally understanding all the references people will make to a popular work, I'd say BaDIK is well worth playing.

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Thanks, SomboSteel!

Always nice to see Josy, though this is hardly tempting me to renew my pledge. I wonder if this is the same day as the end of Episode 7, or if it is another visit in the future? Alex is wearing the same clothes (that might be his normal workout attire, but it's not what he wore back in Episode 2) and was he waiting near those treadmills in the ending montage.

Sigh. This is what happens when I'm starved for anything better to speculate about. I really hope we get some numbers in tomorrow's update.

So here's a question for the Maya fan's. If she does become a HOT (and I think it's a distinct possibility) will she apologize to them for thinking they're nothing but a bunch of sluts? That she's better than they are? It shouldn't be too hard for her, I mean she does apologize a LOT in this game. But will it be a sincere apology?

I mean have you ever stopped to question why Quinn is so hostile to Maya? Could it be that she saw through her from the beginning? People are usually really good at picking up on things like that. And given that DPC made such a big thing about the HOT's apologizing to Maya I wonder if it will be reciprocated?

I've said before that I think the start of Quinn's hatred of Maya was the sense that Maya looked down on her. But I also think Quinn (and you) exaggerate just how strong Maya's contempt was. Maya called them a bunch of sluts, but a single off-hand remark isn't quite the seething hatred you imply. I don't think Maya really got bitter about Quinn and the other HOTs until after Quinn tried to back out of the free tuition in Episode 6.

As for Maya sincerely apologizing, I'd say it's a distinct possibility if she does join the HOTs. But it would probably only be to certain individuals (and definitely not Quinn), and I think it might be a while before we get to that point.

Yes but I never saw the MC expressing such pure contempt for the DIK's. Of course his first motivation was getting a place to stay, though that was shot down almost immediately, and even after we see Rusty telling him that the mansion was already crowded, and even made it plain that there were no guarantee's. MC himself stated a motivation to help out Derek out of a sense of gratitude.

With Maya we see none of these. Almost the first thing we hear from her is how low of an opinion she has for the HOT's. We don't even hear Josy say that she dreamed of joining a Sorority until ep 7, so it also makes it hard to believe that she would join just to support her.

Recall that during the MC's infamous "Quinn is evil" debacle, Maya herself thought that was overstating things. Clearly she didn't despise Quinn yet. As I said, I think you're reading more into her "slut" comment than was warranted.


As for Josy, she does briefly mention wanting to join a sorority in Episode 4 if you're on the M/J path. And it certainly fits her personality.

As to the HOT's, I think this is even shakier ground. Sarah's apology was something I found especially hard to believe. When did we ever see anything in Sarah's personality that would justify such an action from her?

I agree, it was quite a surprise. On the other hand, it's not like we spent much time with Sarah. It's not unreasonable there might be more to her than just her relentless crusade against chastity.

 

[Abhishek_tanwar]

this thrade is awesome i loved it and i want to know should i use mod .

No ! Because that will limit your understand of character while playing the game.
Best i can give advice you that complete game without mod and If you like after that use mod for further extend your option that is that but While playing full game don't use mod.

 

[ChipLecsap]

I think you are wasting time. simp will be simp.
I love the game and sage , whaaaat you said about sage i Loved itt men.

Say the simp . Welcome here btw.
Rule number one : Josy is best girl and she is mine only mine.
Rule number two : Jill and Sage are also mine .

 

[EmperorGus]

As to the HOT's, I think this is even shakier ground. Sarah's apology was something I found especially hard to believe. When did we ever see anything in Sarah's personality that would justify such an action from her?

I agree, it was quite a surprise. On the other hand, it's not like we spent much time with Sarah. It's not unreasonable there might be more to her than just her relentless crusade against chastity.

Ep 7 put Mel and Sarah in a different light.
It's where we got confirmation that they're protecting Chad's 'big secret'.
They're both risking the 'wrath of Sage' by keeping their mouths shut.
So, in my book, anyone that'll keep their mouth shut to protect a friend from the hell his fellow jocks will rain down if they find out, well.. they can't be all bad
(Keep in mind: I think it's fair to suspect Troy got kicked from the frat when the jocks found out about his orientation. And they beat him while they were stealing MCs guitar.
So... It's reasonable for Chad to be worried about them finding out.)

Also, folks have different 'masks' they wear in public vs in private.
Public image: Arrogant Bitch. Privately: Has a heart.

Plus. Maya made it through Hell Week. That makes her 'one of them', even if things took turn immediately afterwards. And it wouldn't be hard for either of them to guess at why Maya was pissed at Quinn.

All-in-all, I thought the apology was a pleasant surprise. But not one that was hard to believe.

 

[ChipLecsap]

Maya flirt with the MC. She is using him.
Everyone else flirts with the MC. Natural, its a porn game.
(Yeah she forge great relation with mc in chapter one so she can make sure mc get electric shock in head. You are right didn't used him. )

You may had a point here and there , but with this , this is really coming out as: out of spite.
this is absolutely, not true, so you kinda lost the argument, I think.

I've said before that I think the start of Quinn's hatred of Maya was the sense that Maya looked down on her. But I also think Quinn (and you) exaggerate just how strong Maya's contempt was. Maya called them a bunch of sluts, but a single off-hand remark isn't quite the seething hatred you imply. I don't think Maya really got bitter about Quinn and the other HOTs until after Quinn tried to back out of the free tuition in Episode 6.

As for Maya sincerely apologizing, I'd say it's a distinct possibility if she does join the HOTs. But it would probably only be to certain individuals (and definitely not Quinn), and I think it might be a while before we get to that point.

I'm surprised, no, I'm shocked. You usually not the type of person who assume something based on nothing.
This is something I don't know where it's come. I mean yeah Maya share her feeling or first impression toward the Hots with MC.
But I hardly believe that Maya went there and was like: "Hey bunch of Sluts I hear you give free tuition can I Join? " I'm not even sure she bring it up. That is not the vibe i get from the beginning of episode 3 during the hot pool, at that point it was just a rumor, and it was ep 3 when Quinn referred to it. ( - slight correction now that i think about it . Maya might have asked about this , and Quinn being Quinn see the opunity and played with her. another reason for her to see the desperation, " oh she need money cool " -)
and We really see this Submissive behaviour from Maya toward Quinn. Quinn obviously enjoyed this, She really saw Maya as someone who is desperate because she desperate , easy to push around ,to manipulate. I even dare to go that far to say I don't think Quinn hated Maya. She didn't feel anything toward her , She was a Toy to her. a possible tool, a possible whore for her. Now , after everything , obviously She dislike Maya.

or we really play a different game. - or you just really need your weekly dose of Numbers

 

[dalli_x]

Which is more human garbage for you a women which earn money form sexual favor or someone which wanted to snatch that money.

Don't be blind, just because you like some character.

If that hots are sluts then what maya is?

What she did with mc at then end of chapter one.

If you call hots bunch of sluts then maya is worse of them.

Like you, I'm not quite sure about Maya.

I don't think Maya goes to bed with other guys but other women?

The Maya that the MC met first was quite different from the later Maya.

I also have a problem with the Josy Maya flashback. I don't think it's one big review, but it's divided into past and present.

Oh yes, the MC himself points out to us that it is a time play. The same book is also in Maya's to collect in EP3. We know that DPC is not a fan of SciFi, so he probably manipulated the timeline of BaD in the form of memories and a memory loss. The screenshot shows you what the MC is hinting at.

 

[Abhishek_tanwar]

You may had a point here and there , but with this , this is really coming out as: out of spite.
this is absolutely, not true, so you kinda lost the argument, I think.

If it's true then it's true.
Just like no matter what science have achieved there will be flat-earth believers.
About "out of spite" : I don't wast single breath for anyone. I always share my point of view but sometimes my tone depends on my mood. but like i said " If it's true then it's true. "

 

[ChipLecsap]

Like you, I'm not quite sure about Maya.

I don't think Maya goes to bed with other guys but other women?

The Maya that the MC met first was quite different from the later Maya.

I also have a problem with the Josy Maya flashback. I don't think it's one big review, but it's divided into past and present.

Oh yes, the MC himself points out to us that it is a time play. The same book is also in Maya's to collect in EP3. We know that DPC is not a fan of SciFi, so he probably manipulated the timeline of BaD in the form of memories and a memory loss. The screenshot shows you what the MC is hinting at.

and you back to your old self . Fuck

 

[Abhishek_tanwar]

Like you, I'm not quite sure about Maya.

I don't think Maya goes to bed with other guys but other women?

The Maya that the MC met first was quite different from the later Maya.

I also have a problem with the Josy Maya flashback. I don't think it's one big review, but it's divided into past and present.

Oh yes, the MC himself points out to us that it is a time play. The same book is also in Maya's to collect in EP3. We know that DPC is not a fan of SciFi, so he probably manipulated the timeline of BaD in the form of memories and a memory loss. The screenshot shows you what the MC is hinting at.

You need to take it other way around.
1. Josy was not virgin(Before mc invaded her) ok so her being lesbian feel bit shaken.
2. Josy kiss maya and maya suddenly a lesbian.
3. while they both enjoy mc's monster. (That just go against lesbian.)

 

[Abhishek_tanwar]

You need to take it other way around.
1. Josy was not virgin ok so her being lesbian feel bit shaken.
2. Josy kiss maya and maya suddenly a lesbian.
3. while they both enjoy mc's monster. (That just go against lesbian.)

and you back to your old self . Fuck

Let him be men !(Say what ever he want) what is wrong with you.

 

[ChipLecsap]

If it's true then it's true.
Just like no matter what science have achieved there will be flat-earth believers.
About "out of spite" : I don't wast single breath for anyone. I always share my point of view but sometimes my tone depends on my mood. but like i said " If it's true then it's true. "

But that it. it's not True. She didn'T befriend MC to use a taser on him. She was not even the one who did it.
She not even knew about it. this is not about belief, this is the Fact

 

[Abhishek_tanwar]

But that it. it's not True. She didn'T befriend MC to use a taser on him. She was not even the one who did it.
She not even knew about it. this is not about belief, this is the Fact
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what are you talking about did she take his full attention so it can be done. She agreed to it. play that part again she looks at hots and do her thing. You are losing my respect brother. You are cheery picking.

 

[ChipLecsap]

Let him be men !(Say what ever he want) what is wrong with you.

Nothing wrong with me , but thanks for asking
dalli_x is perfectly aware of me joking with him

 

[felicemastronzo]

I'm surprised, no, I'm shocked. You usually not the type of person who assume something based on nothing.
This is something I don't know where it's come. I mean yeah Maya share her feeling or first impression toward the Hots with MC.
But I hardly believe that Maya went there and was like: "Hey bunch of Sluts I hear you give free tuition can I Join? " I'm not even sure she bring it up. That is not the vibe i get from the beginning of episode 3 during the hot pool, at that point it was just a rumor, and it was ep 3 when Quinn referred to it. and We really see this Submissive behaviour from Maya toward Quinn. Quinn obviously enjoyed this, She really saw Maya as someone who is desperate because she desperate , easy to push around ,to manipulate. I even dare to go that far to say I don't think Quinn hated Maya. She didn't feel anything toward her , She was a Toy to her. a possible tool, a possible whore for her. Now , after everything , obviously She dislike Maya.

or we really play a different game. - or you just really need your weekly dose of Numbers

Maya's first impression of the HOTs is bad, but basically she is right... and during her stay among them she has no reason to change her mind about them. Sarah and Melanie talk bad about her on several occasions and we don't see her sharing any positive moments even with the less radical HOTs, like Helena or Heather

also MC has a bad impression when he meets the DIKs (and he is basically right too), but he during his first days with them sees something positive, apart from Tommy they are all well disposed towards him since the beginning, they are all happy that he wants to become a DIK

if the free tuition had existed Maya would have remained among the HOTs, despite the HOTs... maybe she will have other opportunities to reconsider

personally to me Sara's apology looks more like a hypocritical gesture due to Sage's change of attitude, she probably also realized she went too far with Maya, but they are two people who have nothing in common, it's hard for her to feel all this empathy

both MC and Maya are initially quite out of place among their siblings, but MC overcomes this phase and quickly becomes one of them, even too much so, Maya is until the last moment a fish out of water. what is Maya supposed to do among the HOTs? get close to Josy again, throw glances at Quinn, and then what?