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DPC needs to have the most realistic flames ever created when burning your LIs to a crisp




I could be completely wrong, but it sounds like DPC is writing a custom save file format to serve as an interface between episode 1-8 and episode 9-onward. If I'm correct, he absolutely has to do this now, because you can't add it in episode 9, because episode 9-onward is basically a new game that simply imports the relevant game state from said save file (which is not the standard Renpy save) to play the rest of the game.What strikes me as curious is why DPC decided to start fiddling with binaries etc etc now.
Wouldn't a more opportune time be after chapter 8 that's also a season ending?
If it was my project to manage and the Devs decided to come up with something for this for whatever they're developing I'd agree with the necessity but I'd push it forward.
Psychologically I think it'd be better.
It'd shorten time to release of an awaited goalpost (Chapter 8 in this case) and give more leeway as you can always point to new season coming up that'd take more time. His customer wouldn't have to wait extra time for him playing around with things that doesn't really affect the product.
This feels like a classic developer seeing something new and shiny they want to shoehorn in as soon as possible to try out and then finding reasons to do it.
I do agree with what he's wanting to do. I just feel that the timing of it is unsound from a business perspective.
That said, he isn't working a normal project in a normal business so it's a moot point really.
It still bothers my inner project manager![]()
well, you'd have to then release an updated version of Season 2 that has a save export and I'm not sure if releasing an update with no content is betterWhat strikes me as curious is why DPC decided to start fiddling with binaries etc etc now.
Wouldn't a more opportune time be after chapter 8 that's also a season ending?
If it was my project to manage and the Devs decided to come up with something for this for whatever they're developing I'd agree with the necessity but I'd push it forward.
Psychologically I think it'd be better.
It'd shorten time to release of an awaited goalpost (Chapter 8 in this case) and give more leeway as you can always point to new season coming up that'd take more time. His customer wouldn't have to wait extra time for him playing around with things that doesn't really affect the product.
This feels like a classic developer seeing something new and shiny they want to shoehorn in as soon as possible to try out and then finding reasons to do it.
I do agree with what he's wanting to do. I just feel that the timing of it is unsound from a business perspective.
That said, he isn't working a normal project in a normal business so it's a moot point really.
It still bothers my inner project manager![]()
While i'm perfectly willing to critise DPC for many reasons, I think this is probably not the right one. Firstly just in straight rendering time we know at best he has a couple of weeks left and probably more than that. In other words he has time to code things while the visuals are still being prepared. This actually seems like quite sensible project management to me.What strikes me as curious is why DPC decided to start fiddling with binaries etc etc now.
Wouldn't a more opportune time be after chapter 8 that's also a season ending?
If it was my project to manage and the Devs decided to come up with something for this for whatever they're developing I'd agree with the necessity but I'd push it forward.
Psychologically I think it'd be better.
It'd shorten time to release of an awaited goalpost (Chapter 8 in this case) and give more leeway as you can always point to new season coming up that'd take more time. His customer wouldn't have to wait extra time for him playing around with things that doesn't really affect the product.
This feels like a classic developer seeing something new and shiny they want to shoehorn in as soon as possible to try out and then finding reasons to do it.
I do agree with what he's wanting to do. I just feel that the timing of it is unsound from a business perspective.
That said, he isn't working a normal project in a normal business so it's a moot point really.
It still bothers my inner project manager![]()
I won't address everything you say. I think it is fair to say he needs to make sure he is balancing the size and legth of updates with the time they take to produce. It's also apparent that he has set events he has pre planned and they need to be built to, to some extent. I think we're all used to these games having 3-6 updates a year and being finished in two or three, but I think it's also fair to think of this more like a TV show. You get 12-24 episodes of TV every year, thats around 4-8 hours of a sitcom and 9-18 hours of a drama. DPC at the current rate is making 10-12 hours a year of porn visual novel on his own.Over six months for this release. The game is good, but it's getting ridiculous.
Let's say the game is halfway complete - it could be even longer. We're looking at 4 more years before we have a resolution to the story. There's two major issues with that:
1) 4 years is a long time to hold an audiences attention, no matter how good the game is.
2) There isn't really that much doubt and uncertainty in this story to last for 8 more episodes. If you add a new story line then it devalues the first two seasons. You'll need new characters, the universe expands, and everything that has been established becomes a bit watered down. If you run with what you have then it will become tired. How many times can you fuck the same characters before it loses its appeal? How long can you draw out the same dramas before people stop caring?
Ultimately, we have to assume that the MC will have to pick one of the main girls to settle with. Four more years waiting to see what happens? They're good characters, but it's hard to be that invested in any of them to hold out that long. Hell, the story is excellent, and that might not even be enough to keep people for four years.
And this is all assuming development times don't continue to increase, which they have from the start. We thought they would never take more than 5 months. We thought we would get faster development times once he got improved hardware. They continue to stretch.
DPC has a great game, but he's trying to make too much of a good story. A tightly-wrapped 12 episode story that progressed a bit more quickly (and avoided some of the filler scenes and mini-games) would have been more timely and easier to keep an audiences attention. Did we really need to wait for dev time on a new phone. For this new tetris-lite game? Of course not.
Does he really need to code the whole thing on his own? Of course not.
We waited over five months for the last episode, which was solid, but not great. Now we're waiting over six months for this one. Imagine being a Patreon supporter and paying $30 a month, only to wait 6 months for an episode. $180 bucks for one edition is mental. Spend your money how you want, but people will find it harder to justify with longer wait times.
It's a good game - maybe my favorite - but the pace of development is not sustainable. We might not see an ending until early 2026. Let that sink in for a minute. The culture moves on. New games will be developed and capture people's attention. People will lose interest.
Because dpc wants you to play the game how he wants you to. Otherwise "it ruins the game"Wow man nice job with this walkthrough, how is this not the official walkthrough, why the dev didn't contact you this is waaaay better than the official...
What strikes me as curious is why DPC decided to start fiddling with binaries etc etc now.
Wouldn't a more opportune time be after chapter 8 that's also a season ending?
If it was my project to manage and the Devs decided to come up with something for this for whatever they're developing I'd agree with the necessity but I'd push it forward.
Psychologically I think it'd be better.
It'd shorten time to release of an awaited goalpost (Chapter 8 in this case) and give more leeway as you can always point to new season coming up that'd take more time. His customer wouldn't have to wait extra time for him playing around with things that doesn't really affect the product.
This feels like a classic developer seeing something new and shiny they want to shoehorn in as soon as possible to try out and then finding reasons to do it.
I do agree with what he's wanting to do. I just feel that the timing of it is unsound from a business perspective.
That said, he isn't working a normal project in a normal business so it's a moot point really.
It still bothers my inner project manager![]()
Like alri said, now would be the perfect time because the prep work needs to be in ep8/season 2 end. It would be the logical conclusion to release it with it already there so that season 3 can pick up and go.I could be completely wrong, but it sounds like DPC is writing a custom save file format to serve as an interface between episode 1-8 and episode 9-onward. If I'm correct, he absolutely has to do this now, because you can't add it in episode 9, because episode 9-onward is basically a new game that simply imports the relevant game state from said save file (which is not the standard Renpy save) to play the rest of the game.
If he were to implement this purely from episode 9 onwards, he would have to write a routine to import the standard Renpy save from episode 8 manually and parse out the relevant bits. I never worked with Renpy, so I don't know its internals, but processing a Renpy save might be more complicated and error prone than what he is planning on doing now.
So, from developer standpoint, I can see why he is doing what he is doing.
I'm curious to learn exactly how much time goes into every aspect of the game. I'd love to see a breakdown by percentages. In particular how much time is spent on mini-games and other so called filler.Over six months for this release. The game is good, but it's getting ridiculous.
Let's say the game is halfway complete - it could be even longer. We're looking at 4 more years before we have a resolution to the story. There's two major issues with that:
1) 4 years is a long time to hold an audiences attention, no matter how good the game is.
2) There isn't really that much doubt and uncertainty in this story to last for 8 more episodes. If you add a new story line then it devalues the first two seasons. You'll need new characters, the universe expands, and everything that has been established becomes a bit watered down. If you run with what you have then it will become tired. How many times can you fuck the same characters before it loses its appeal? How long can you draw out the same dramas before people stop caring?
Ultimately, we have to assume that the MC will have to pick one of the main girls to settle with. Four more years waiting to see what happens? They're good characters, but it's hard to be that invested in any of them to hold out that long. Hell, the story is excellent, and that might not even be enough to keep people for four years.
And this is all assuming development times don't continue to increase, which they have from the start. We thought they would never take more than 5 months. We thought we would get faster development times once he got improved hardware. They continue to stretch.
DPC has a great game, but he's trying to make too much of a good story. A tightly-wrapped 12 episode story that progressed a bit more quickly (and avoided some of the filler scenes and mini-games) would have been more timely and easier to keep an audiences attention. Did we really need to wait for dev time on a new phone. For this new tetris-lite game? Of course not.
Does he really need to code the whole thing on his own? Would anyone (other than DPC) be upset or think less of the guy if he hired someone to help and episodes came out every 4 months? Of course not.
We waited over five months for the last episode, which was solid, but not great. Now we're waiting over six months for this one. Imagine being a Patreon supporter and paying $30 a month, only to wait 6 months for an episode. $180 bucks for one edition is mental. Spend your money how you want, but people will find it harder to justify with longer wait times.
It's a good game - maybe my favorite - but the pace of development is not sustainable. We might not see an ending until early 2026. Let that sink in for a minute. The culture moves on. New games will be developed and capture people's attention. People will lose interest.
It sounds like what VI did with Fetish Locator where each week (currently two with a third planned) is a separate download with the ability to carry over your old save (or re-create it, Witcher 3 style).I could be completely wrong, but it sounds like DPC is writing a custom save file format to serve as an interface between episode 1-8 and episode 9-onward. If I'm correct, he absolutely has to do this now, because you can't add it in episode 9, because episode 9-onward is basically a new game that simply imports the relevant game state from said save file (which is not the standard Renpy save) to play the rest of the game.
If he were to implement this purely from episode 9 onwards, he would have to write a routine to import the standard Renpy save from episode 8 manually and parse out the relevant bits. I never worked with Renpy, so I don't know its internals, but processing a Renpy save might be more complicated and error prone than what he is planning on doing now.
So, from developer standpoint, I can see why he is doing what he is doing.
Nah, he needs super realistic water effects for the drowning sceneDPC needs to have the most realistic flames ever created when burning your LIs to a crisp
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For the better part of this week, I wrote code and performed quality assurance for the episode by playtesting and polishing art, code, and dialogue.
I have now added music and sound effects for most of the episode, and I still need a few more songs for specific scenes.
I started working on a big coding task that I have hinted about in the past, and today it's a good time to share some details on it.
Because the game is getting pretty big, and Ren'Py is getting pushed to its limits in some areas, I want to make a new binary for Season 3.
What this means is that after you have completed episode 8, and thus Season 2, you will save your game in a menu and continue your game using another .exe/.app file.
Making a new binary has the added benefit that the initial episodes for Season 3 will have a smaller download size, and you shouldn't have to redownload Season 1 and 2 every update.
If you're getting confused by this, think of this as the same game, only sliced into another part.
Season 1 and 2 will be one separate download. And Season 3 and onward will be another download.
From a developer's standpoint, there are some challenges with this task. My goals are to make this system simple to use for all of you, robust in transferring saves, and functional for both Steam and Patreon. While I'm at it, I also want to trim some fat stored in the save files.
I have both the knowledge and strategy to do all of this, but it will take more time to implement and test it thoroughly as the game has thousands of variables that I want to control and double-check. I have already made good progress on this during this week.
Next week I will continue writing the remaining scenes and pose more static renders.
Have a nice weekend
Dr PinkCake
Maybe Jill's ending includes a nice cuckoholding session with Tybalt banging her while the MC watches from a corner, jerking off and crying like a little bitch?Tybalt is most disgusting character in this game IMO..
What do you guys think? can we get rid of this basterd?? Adter 3rd date??
Hope dev is not planning any NTR
That sounds just like me on my junior year, somehow then I managed to completely fuck up a json parsing feature, commit directly to the dev branch and making almost every jenkins build fail for 2 days straightI have both the knowledge and strategy to do all of this, but it will take more time to implement and test it thoroughly as the game has thousands of variables that I want to control and double-check. I have already made good progress on this during this week.
Ugh..your fantasies, dude..gross.Maybe Jill's ending includes a nice cuckoholding session with Tybalt banging her while the MC watches from a corner, jerking off and crying like a little bitch?
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There really should be a separate thread for all this discussion, and then this thread is just there for update posts, but it is what it is.Am I the only one that thinks a 150,000+ post thread is not the way to do things?
Also, the download links are useless. I tried multiple times to download the splits using Nopy and Mega and I keep getting corrupted image rpa's. Was trying a torrent but there's only a dozen or so seeds and i really don't feel like waiting 6 hours.
Oh well, this might be the best game ever, like the reviews say, but I'll never know. Done are the days I waste hours of my time trying to "fix" things in a game.
Anyone else lingered on this GIF wondering how far her shirt would rise up?When we are happy and DPC come with something new
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It's been going for almost 3 years already and it's only gaining more and more traction.Over six months for this release. The game is good, but it's getting ridiculous.
Let's say the game is halfway complete - it could be even longer. We're looking at 4 more years before we have a resolution to the story. There's two major issues with that:
1) 4 years is a long time to hold an audiences attention, no matter how good the game is.
2) There isn't really that much doubt and uncertainty in this story to last for 8 more episodes. If you add a new story line then it devalues the first two seasons. You'll need new characters, the universe expands, and everything that has been established becomes a bit watered down. If you run with what you have then it will become tired. How many times can you fuck the same characters before it loses its appeal? How long can you draw out the same dramas before people stop caring?
Ultimately, we have to assume that the MC will have to pick one of the main girls to settle with. Four more years waiting to see what happens? They're good characters, but it's hard to be that invested in any of them to hold out that long. Hell, the story is excellent, and that might not even be enough to keep people for four years.
And this is all assuming development times don't continue to increase, which they have from the start. We thought they would never take more than 5 months. We thought we would get faster development times once he got improved hardware. They continue to stretch.
DPC has a great game, but he's trying to make too much of a good story. A tightly-wrapped 12 episode story that progressed a bit more quickly (and avoided some of the filler scenes and mini-games) would have been more timely and easier to keep an audiences attention. Did we really need to wait for dev time on a new phone. For this new tetris-lite game? Of course not.
Does he really need to code the whole thing on his own? Would anyone (other than DPC) be upset or think less of the guy if he hired someone to help and episodes came out every 4 months? Of course not.
We waited over five months for the last episode, which was solid, but not great. Now we're waiting over six months for this one. Imagine being a Patreon supporter and paying $30 a month, only to wait 6 months for an episode. $180 bucks for one edition is mental. Spend your money how you want, but people will find it harder to justify with longer wait times.
It's a good game - maybe my favorite - but the pace of development is not sustainable. We might not see an ending until early 2026. Let that sink in for a minute. The culture moves on. New games will be developed and capture people's attention. People will lose interest.
Each episode takes a little longer because it's a little bigger. I don't believe there are any behind the scenes development problems.I'd be interested to get some form of a behind-the-scenes from DPC. Money doesn't solve every problem, but it definitely helps. I'm wondering what is taking so long (both up until this point and probably the next month or two until it releases.) Surely there is more talent that could be recruited to push the development he speaks of?
Granted - I'm not a developer, but this seems to be an ongoing problem of each update taking progressively longer to release, a common problem with a smaller team that either isn't hiring, or doesn't have a solid plan.
In no way do I mean to detract from the game or the work itself. This is one of the top, top games by a huge margin. I'm just very curious as to what is causing this exactly.
I'd be interested to get some form of a behind-the-scenes from DPC.
That would be pretty funny, Quinn's "actress" being all considerate and nice in "real life".Instead of a behind-the-scenes making of BaDIK, what about behind the scenes of BaDIK itself? I think it would be pretty entertaining if DPC did outtakes starring the virtual actors after he's completed the game.
Imagine learning theYou must be registered to see the linksis actually very intelligent, and she ad-libbed many of her scenes ("Not everyone is a rock scientist" sent the actress playing Quinn into a laughing fit). Or that Dawe and the MC were best friends, and Dawe kept trying to get the MC to break character. Everyone would call the actress playing Lynette "Mom" on the set, even though she was the second-youngest there. No one could agree on the pronunciation of "Tybalt" (is it "TIBB-alt" or "TIE-balt?). During the after-tennis shower scene, MC reached over to grab a boob, but the actor playing Stanley was there instead. In fact, that could be a running joke on set. When Melanie is supposed to sneak into the HOTs shower with the MC, the curtain flies open and the MC sees Stanley standing there, ready to go.
I think it could be a fun, short project for DPC between BaDIK and his next project.