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JiiEf

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What a great post. I don't like to write long posts so I will answer briefly.
I hate DAZ. I used to work in it and literally cursed every minute in it. It's too slow, slow viewport, no hotkeys, no normal render engine, no full ability to customize materials, bad lighting, terrible interface, etc.
When you talk about posing, you're probably right. But you still won't be able to do a complex pose. The animation tools are probably fine for some simple animations, but you won't be able to do a complex animation like a bird flying or dancing.
My main point was that DPC can't do what it wants to do because of the technical limitation of DAZ. That's true. He can't do smoke simulation and he has to draw smoke manually in After Effects or other video editor. He can't make a simulation of bubbles in the bathtub and he has to draw them manually in photoshop. All of this takes time. He talks about artistic vision, but it was initially limited when he decided to work at DAZ.
When we talk about DPC we don't mean graphics. That's not his strongest part. The graphics in his game are average, but in terms of animations, minigame quality, branching he's probably the best. DPC isn't perfect and if he wanted to be the best in all areas one episode would have been in development for 2 or 3 years.
I think most of your complaints are BS. Daz has particle effects now and your claim about fully customizing materials is vague but strange when the app supports custom shaders. Not sure why you wouldn't be able to do a dancing animation, just open up the timeline and start moving limbs - no sane person would start doing it in a game based primarily on still render, though (which of course means that DPC will do it for season 11).

It's a poorly documented and definitely, in its core, aging piece of software, but it is surprisingly robust when you start working with it.
 

felicemastronzo

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I hate Riona's new shorter hair, tough.
did Riona also have a change in her hairstyle? i hadn't noticed that to be honest. from chapter 7 onward (apart from the scene where with Quinn they catch Sage and MC) she seemed greatly improved in her face and expressiveness, before she had always seemed rather "basic" to me
 

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Interesting - first models were good but kinda basic, then he hit the mark around episode 4/5 and then ... he kept changing them.
Is this that thing with artists where they need to adjust and improve things into the ground because they're never happy with their work?
 

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I think most of your complaints are BS. Daz has particle effects now and your claim about fully customizing materials is vague but strange when the app supports custom shaders. Not sure why you wouldn't be able to do a dancing animation, just open up the timeline and start moving limbs - no sane person would start doing it in a game based primarily on still render, though (which of course means that DPC will do it for season 11).

It's a poorly documented and definitely, in its core, aging piece of software, but it is surprisingly robust when you start working with it.
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Are you sure you want me to keep going?
DAZ sucks and it will lose to any 3D program.

I don't understand why you would react the way you did. DAZ is probably a good program for a narrow set of tasks like simple posing, but that's where its advantages end. And besides, where did I say anything wrong? Well, by the way, I didn't know that DAZ has particles, but it doesn't change anything because in any program simulations are more complex and progressive.
Besides, it's obvious to everyone that the program is not evolving. Blender every year adds a lot of new features and capabilities, there is an opportunity to add quality addons that simplify the development process, but none of this is in DAZ. This program lives thanks to a huge store.
 
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did Riona also have a change in her hairstyle? i hadn't noticed that to be honest. from chapter 7 onward (apart from the scene where with Quinn they catch Sage and MC) she seemed greatly improved in her face and expressiveness, before she had always seemed rather "basic" to me
Ok bro, let's play nostradamus. Which of the 4 things will happen in Episode 10.

1. Tommy finds out about the MC & Josy.
2. Maya's Tuition storyline finishes.
3. Quinn will say "I really like you" to the MC.
4. Bella gets in trouble for dating the MC.

Im gonna go nuts and predict.

1. No
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. No
 

PereFourreAss

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Ok bro, let's play nostradamus. Which of the 4 things will happen in Episode 10.

1. Tommy finds out about the MC & Josy.
2. Maya's Tuition storyline finishes.
3. Quinn will say "I really like you" to the MC.
4. Bella gets in trouble for dating the MC.

Im gonna go nuts and predict.

1. No
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. No
Have I missed something or 1. already happened ?
 

Dark Silence

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Ok bro, let's play nostradamus. Which of the 4 things will happen in Episode 10.

1. Tommy finds out about the MC & Josy.
2. Maya's Tuition storyline finishes.
3. Quinn will say "I really like you" to the MC.
4. Bella gets in trouble for dating the MC.

Im gonna go nuts and predict.

1. No
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. No
1. Yes. If you're on her path.
2. No. Probably ep12 for that.
3. No. If on her path she'll say some dumb shit like: "You know how I feel, so fuck off."
4. No. Dpc will stretch that out until ep14. :ROFLMAO:

I'm not Nostradamus and don't hold me to any of these predictions, even if I'm right. :ROFLMAO:
 

TimHawk

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Have I missed something or 1. already happened ?
Are you referring to the "cliffhanger" with Maya and Josy coming out of the hallway that leads to the MC's room ?

If yes, then maybe you missed that Tommy asked the MC at the start of the party to look after Josy, so DPC disarmed that bomb right at the start. Tommy also doesn't know that Josy and Maya are an item and so far none of the cliffhangers have lead to something big happening (Jade being Sage's mom, Chad being gay and so on and on).

It's why I don't believe anything will happen, it's a twofer, not only would Tommy find out about the MC banging Josy, Josy and Maya would also come out as being bi.

If something does come of it, I would be a) surprised and b) impressed that DPC upped his cliffhanger game.
 
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Ok bro, let's play nostradamus. Which of the 4 things will happen in Episode 10.

1. Tommy finds out about the MC & Josy.
2. Maya's Tuition storyline finishes.
3. Quinn will say "I really like you" to the MC.
4. Bella gets in trouble for dating the MC.

Im gonna go nuts and predict.

1. No
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. No
I mean...the cliffhanger from ep. 9 could be a red herring but hasn't the 1st one already essentially happened? There aren't exactly that many rooms they could have come from walking through that door and Josy is naked as well, so 1st should be a definite yes.

2nd: no
3rd: could be...the others ending of ep. 9 really went pretty far with her, so I go with a reluctant "yes" for this one.
4th: Hard to tell...so far only Nick fully knows, even if some of the others might suspect something. There could be happening something in ep. 10, but I think it's a bit too early for that, so I go with a "no".
 

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Yeah, I’m waiting for the part where you show me it can’t do it, not some Maya showreel.
Can you do a rain or smoke simulation in DAZ? Or make a procedural simulation of snowflake formation like in some Houdini?
Animation, posing, rendering can be done in DAZ. I don't know what you're arguing with me about. :unsure:
 

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I mean...the cliffhanger from ep. 9 could be a red herring but hasn't the 1st one already essentially happened? There aren't exactly that many rooms they could have come from walking through that door and Josy is naked as well, so 1st should be a definite yes.

2nd: no
3rd: could be...the others ending of ep. 9 really went pretty far with her, so I go with a reluctant "yes" for this one.
4th: Hard to tell...so far only Nick fully knows, even if some of the others might suspect something. There could be happening something in ep. 10, but I think it's a bit too early for that, so I go with a "no".
Just explained why I said no to 1. a few posts up. Logically you are right, but it's ... DPC. :D
 

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Are you referring to the "cliffhanger" with Maya and Josy coming out of the hallway that leads to the MC's room ?

If yes, then maybe you missed that Tommy asked the MC at the start of the party to look after Josy, so DPC disarmed that bomb right at the start. Tommy also doesn't know that Josy and Maya are an item and so far none of the cliffhangers have lead to something big happening (Jade being Sage's mom, Chad being gay and so on and on).

It's why I don't believe anything will happen, it's a twofer, not only would Tommy find out about the MC banging Josy, Josy and Maya would also come out as being bi.

If something does come of it, I would be a) surprised and b) impressed that DPC upped his cliffhanger game.
if MC manages to hide his relationship with Josy from Tommy after she has left his room (for the second time, but the first time it was witnessed by the reliable DIKs who would never let it slip away...) I will stop worrying about any possible twist
 
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