VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Better Cock Spock]

Yeah, I haven’t posted anything for several weeks. ReallyNotTina and I had some illness stuff to deal with, then wedding and honeymoon stuff. But everything’s back to normal… well, our awesome new normal.

Anyway Friday night she said, “When’s the last time we played Being a DIK?” and so we did some of that. Just to remind you, we’re on a Maya/Josy run, and episode 3 begins with a cold open, not “Previously on…” clips.

Wife. Wait, I need the “previously” part. It’s been too long!​

Me. We’ve played this before.​

Wife. Yeah but I don’t remember what’s different.​

Me. Very little is different. But I think the “previously” part comes after. You’ll see it.​

The ep starts with someone knocking on the Alphas’ door, and envelopes for Chad and Dawe tucked under it. (In two different fonts. Don’t know why.) The message to Chad is, “Is this the secret you’re hiding?” and he immediately thinks of the MC.

Spoiler: Our big-ass Episode 3 recap

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Hey welcome back, glad you're both okay. I enjoy reading these, no matter how long they are.

 

[godkingxerxes]

If we get an actual path with Yoga Girl, like at least on par with Lily or Nicole, I would not complain... as much.

Are the Vixens supposed to be actual characters? I thought it was just about the introduction of real temptation. Now that you can be monogamous, every other girl is a vixen—Sarah, Mel, Lily, Cammy, Rio, and more give you those tc points when you get too flirty with them. If the Vixens are actually supposed to be those 3 girls in the intro animation, then that's just stupid.

There's no way some random new girl, no matter how hot she is, should end with similar content to Nicole or Lily.

Nicole and Lily are right now, maybe a rung below Quinn in term of Others content.

Introducing a new character and having her overtake Riona, Camila, Jade, Zoey, Cathy, Sarah, Melanie, Sandy, Nora, Sally, Karen etc etc in content would be a baffling decision.

Pinkcakes should be working to cutting out the excess others girls and focus on elevating the ones he current has.

 

[Better Cock Spock]

There's no way some random new girl, no matter how hot she is, should end with similar content to Nicole or Lily.

Nicole and Lily are right now, maybe a rung below Quinn in term of Others content.

Introducing a new character and having her overtake Riona, Camila, Jade, Zoey, Cathy, Sarah, Melanie, Sandy, Nora, Sally, Karen etc etc in content would be a baffling decision.

Pinkcakes should be working to cutting out the excess others girls and focus on elevating the ones he current has.

You couldn't let me pretend


*sniff* ...... it is true though. Like Cammy alone has been criminally underutilized, and just maybe that will be rectified next episode.
Still, I will continue to simp for Yoga Girl's proper introduction, bewitching romance, and showstopper sex scenes. Even if it means I subsist on nothing but copium.

 

[ReallyNotTimmy]

There's no way some random new girl, no matter how hot she is, should end with similar content to Nicole or Lily.

Nicole and Lily are right now, maybe a rung below Quinn in term of Others content.

Introducing a new character and having her overtake Riona, Camila, Jade, Zoey, Cathy, Sarah, Melanie, Sandy, Nora, Sally, Karen etc etc in content would be a baffling decision.

Pinkcakes should be working to cutting out the excess others girls and focus on elevating the ones he current has.

You assume PinkCake is making up the story as he goes. He appears to be doing that with some elements, but the main story arc was figured out long ago, and will conclude, with Being a DIK, with episode 16. Plenty of room, and time, for him to squeeze in new characters.

Especially if some of the existing characters (Sally, Karen) never go anywhere, others (Jade, Nora, Riona; hope I’m wrong about Riona!) were meant to end early and poorly, and others (Camila, Melanie, Sandy, Sarah) were never meant to come to anything; they’re just dalliances.

 

[shazba jnr]

There's no way some random new girl, no matter how hot she is, should end with similar content to Nicole or Lily.

Nicole and Lily are right now, maybe a rung below Quinn in term of Others content.

Introducing a new character and having her overtake Riona, Camila, Jade, Zoey, Cathy, Sarah, Melanie, Sandy, Nora, Sally, Karen etc etc in content would be a baffling decision.

Pinkcakes should be working to cutting out the excess others girls and focus on elevating the ones he current has.

Zoey is the only exception, because she's a significant part of the big picture, but yeah, it would be weird to start building a random rapport with some other new character. Still want to blast one in Becky's ass though, but for different reasons.

On the subject of Karen, has there been any special renders / reward renders that include her at this point? I know Sally had her little office rendezvous with the mc in a render set. But Karen's had fuck all, right?

Spoiler: And there's so much potential!

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[godkingxerxes]

Zoey is the only exception, because she's a significant part of the big picture, but yeah, it would be weird to start building a random rapport with some other new character. Still want to blast one in Becky's ass though, but for different reasons.

On the subject of Karen, has there been any special renders / reward renders that include her at this point? I know Sally had her little office rendezvous with the mc in a render set. But Karen's had fuck all, right?

Spoiler: And there's so much potential!

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I think she had a clone series, but I'm not fully sure.

And she was in the April Fool's Day render with Sally, but yeah that's it, definitely needs more.

Becky needs to get it as well, I'm beginning to not trust Jacob so I don't believe him when he says she's a lame fuck.

 

[DavDR]

You couldn't let me pretend
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*sniff* ...... it is true though. Like Cammy alone has been criminally underutilized, and just maybe that will be rectified next episode.
Still, I will continue to simp for Yoga Girl's proper introduction, bewitching romance, and showstopper sex scenes. Even if it means I subsist on nothing but copium.

It's becoming a habit in AVN's that anytime a dev put's a moderately attractive minor character someone will ask when their sex scene is (even KRJ has simps) And dev's always seem to cave to those demands. Dev's also use this as a good excuse to pad out their content, to the point that many games are becoming bloated, rambling messes.

I don't begrudge anyone their favorite characters, as long as it doesn't diminish the quality of the game, and unfortunately too often it does.

 

[DavDR]

You assume PinkCake is making up the story as he goes. He appears to be doing that with some elements, but the main story arc was figured out long ago, and will conclude, with Being a DIK, with episode 16. Plenty of room, and time, for him to squeeze in new characters.

Especially if some of the existing characters (Sally, Karen) never go anywhere, others (Jade, Nora, Riona; hope I’m wrong about Riona!) were meant to end early and poorly, and others (Camila, Melanie, Sandy, Sarah) were never meant to come to anything; they’re just dalliances.

I've heard this argued before but, where's your proof that DPC has this all laid out in advance? Is it the tightly written, well reasoned script? The smooth and efficient development?

 

[DavDR]

because she's a significant part of the big picture,

Proof?

 

[ReallyNotTimmy]

I've heard this argued before but, where's your proof that DPC has this all laid out in advance? Is it the tightly written, well reasoned script? The smooth and efficient development?

Remember in ep 10, when Maya said, “Do you see?” and the MC had all those flashbacks to earlier episodes? PinkCake said he’d been laying the groundwork for that for years. Obviously he has. I don’t doubt he has the ending already in mind. You’d be an idiot to create a multi-year project like this one without an endgame.

Other elements suggest he’s locked into something he can’t easily bring himself to change. Like Maya’s student loan story, which he’s sticking to even though student loans work nothing like he’s described (a fact he at least lampshaded in ep 10). Or Madame Rose, a waste of resources that he’s obligated to keep adding to every episode because if you won the Pink Rose VIP pass, you’ve gotta get something for it. (Me, I’d swap the Madame with different strippers every episode. Episode 7 you’d get Brandi. Episode 8 you’d get Tania, plus the option to rub Tommy’s nose in the fact you plowed his favorite stripper. Episode 9 got skipped. Episode 10, Sandy. Next time, Rose again; Rose was fun.)

However it’s obvious not everything was laid out in advance. You gotta make some adjustments for fan reactions. If a side girl suddenly becomes a significant fan favorite (i.e. Quinn) you gotta accommodate those fans somewhat. Maybe not kill her off, if that was the original plan. (Something How I Met Your Mother should’ve realized.) Conversely if the fans universally loathe a side girl, have her disappear like Mona. I think PinkCake allowed himself some room to experiment and adjust. Maybe too much? Or not enough, so he has to invent convoluted explanations? Sometimes it’s best to just drop an entire game at once, like Netflix drops seasons at once.

 

[felicemastronzo]

You assume PinkCake is making up the story as he goes. He appears to be doing that with some elements, but the main story arc was figured out long ago, and will conclude, with Being a DIK, with episode 16. Plenty of room, and time, for him to squeeze in new characters.

Especially if some of the existing characters (Sally, Karen) never go anywhere, others (Jade, Nora, Riona; hope I’m wrong about Riona!) were meant to end early and poorly, and others (Camila, Melanie, Sandy, Sarah) were never meant to come to anything; they’re just dalliances.

look, these days I'm redoing a game from the beginning and I'll tell you that it seems clear to me that, at least on the sidegirls, DPC has changed direction.

I take Riona as an example: the first two times we see her she's practically tits in the wind, once she dances in front of Dawe (maybe only Tybalt occupies a lower step) while he touches her, and later in the same way at DIKs, when Mc is still a freshman to be bullied, always in the first chapter there's a hint of her ability in blowjobs.

a character far removed from the present, practically unrecognisable.

 

[godkingxerxes]

Remember in ep 10, when Maya said, “Do you see?” and the MC had all those flashbacks to earlier episodes? PinkCake said he’d been laying the groundwork for that for years. Obviously he has. I don’t doubt he has the ending already in mind. You’d be an idiot to create a multi-year project like this one without an endgame.

Other elements suggest he’s locked into something he can’t easily bring himself to change. Like Maya’s student loan story, which he’s sticking to even though student loans work nothing like he’s described (a fact he at least lampshaded in ep 10). Or Madame Rose, a waste of resources that he’s obligated to keep adding to every episode because if you won the Pink Rose VIP pass, you’ve gotta get something for it. (Me, I’d swap the Madame with different strippers every episode. Episode 7 you’d get Brandi. Episode 8 you’d get Tania, plus the option to rub Tommy’s nose in the fact you plowed his favorite stripper. Episode 9 got skipped. Episode 10, Sandy. Next time, Rose again; Rose was fun.)

However it’s obvious not everything was laid out in advance. You gotta make some adjustments for fan reactions. If a side girl suddenly becomes a significant fan favorite (i.e. Quinn) you gotta accommodate those fans somewhat. Maybe not kill her off, if that was the original plan. (Something How I Met Your Mother should’ve realized.) Conversely if the fans universally loathe a side girl, have her disappear like Mona. I think PinkCake allowed himself some room to experiment and adjust. Maybe too much? Or not enough, so he has to invent convoluted explanations? Sometimes it’s best to just drop an entire game at once, like Netflix drops seasons at once.

Mona was by far the hottest of the HOT daughters, she was far from loathed by anyone.

She's underrated by the community due to not having much content before being written out, which the way it was done was trash writing, MC can't even have a conversation with someone who not only did he hook up with but also helped him get a slap up on Derek.

 

[Riaman]

If we get an actual path with Yoga Girl, like at least on par with Lily or Nicole, I would not complain... as much.

Are the Vixens supposed to be actual characters? I thought it was just about the introduction of real temptation. Now that you can be monogamous, every other girl is a vixen—Sarah, Mel, Lily, Cammy, Rio, and more give you those tc points when you get too flirty with them. If the Vixens are actually supposed to be those 3 girls in the intro animation, then that's just stupid.

Riona and Lily are above rest of SGs only below Quinn in terms of content.

 

[Riaman]

If we get an actual path with Yoga Girl, like at least on par with Lily or Nicole, I would not complain... as much.

Are the Vixens supposed to be actual characters? I thought it was just about the introduction of real temptation. Now that you can be monogamous, every other girl is a vixen—Sarah, Mel, Lily, Cammy, Rio, and more give you those tc points when you get too flirty with them. If the Vixens are actually supposed to be those 3 girls in the intro animation, then that's just stupid.

Also I don't understand why you are putting Lily as a vixen against your established relationship when not pursuing her. She is a smart and observant gal that automatically rejects you if you pursue Sage first in ep 7 Hots party. All of Lily content is only available in Others path in which you're not in any relationship, rolling is probably the most relationship like thing aside from Quinn's path in others path.

Off route Josy is the most vixen girl.

 

[DavDR]

Remember in ep 10, when Maya said, “Do you see?” and the MC had all those flashbacks to earlier episodes? PinkCake said he’d been laying the groundwork for that for years. Obviously he has. I don’t doubt he has the ending already in mind. You’d be an idiot to create a multi-year project like this one without an endgame.

Other elements suggest he’s locked into something he can’t easily bring himself to change. Like Maya’s student loan story, which he’s sticking to even though student loans work nothing like he’s described (a fact he at least lampshaded in ep 10). Or Madame Rose, a waste of resources that he’s obligated to keep adding to every episode because if you won the Pink Rose VIP pass, you’ve gotta get something for it. (Me, I’d swap the Madame with different strippers every episode. Episode 7 you’d get Brandi. Episode 8 you’d get Tania, plus the option to rub Tommy’s nose in the fact you plowed his favorite stripper. Episode 9 got skipped. Episode 10, Sandy. Next time, Rose again; Rose was fun.)

However it’s obvious not everything was laid out in advance. You gotta make some adjustments for fan reactions. If a side girl suddenly becomes a significant fan favorite (i.e. Quinn) you gotta accommodate those fans somewhat. Maybe not kill her off, if that was the original plan. (Something How I Met Your Mother should’ve realized.) Conversely if the fans universally loathe a side girl, have her disappear like Mona. I think PinkCake allowed himself some room to experiment and adjust. Maybe too much? Or not enough, so he has to invent convoluted explanations? Sometimes it’s best to just drop an entire game at once, like Netflix drops seasons at once.

You have one example in one path of the game. (I don't remember that line at all, are you sure it wasn't just for players stuck with M&J?)

All the rest is just speculation.

There hasn't been any conclusion or resolution of the Loan storyline. In fact, the loan story proves that DPC hardly researched his 'master story' as the mistakes could so easily be avoided. To my mind that lack of research doesn't point to a meticulously planned story.

I've been in this thread for years and never saw any indication that the fan's universally loathed Mona, in fact if that was the benchmark for axing a character Maya and Jill, and of course Madame, would be long gone. And there's no indication that he's eliminating Madame either.

 

[Darkwen]

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[DavDR]

look, these days I'm redoing a game from the beginning and I'll tell you that it seems clear to me that, at least on the sidegirls, DPC has changed direction.

I take Riona as an example: the first two times we see her she's practically tits in the wind, once she dances in front of Dawe (maybe only Tybalt occupies a lower step) while he touches her, and later in the same way at DIKs, when Mc is still a freshman to be bullied, always in the first chapter there's a hint of her ability in blowjobs.

a character far removed from the present, practically unrecognisable.

Felice is alive!

I was afraid that the almost uninterrupted thread simping had driven you to something drastic.

 

[Joshy92]

Side girls are so pointless to me. If a girl doesn't have a romantic ending I don't even want to look at her.

 

[Roger-a-Dale]

Am I the only one who never had a problem with the student loan situation?

Yes, it's not how they work, but how do people learn that? Typically from their parents. The vast majority of people across the world are immensely vulnerable to being screwed over by their parents. Most parents just don't do something like that.

Then you add other factors that would just make it easier. First as the whole thing was a ploy to break Maya and Josy up, Patrick had obviously learned about it and exploded to Maya's face. Is it surprising that a 19-year-old girl was too scared to read the small print properly? Second Maya's romance just had a massive obstacle thrown at it. That sort of thing distracts people. Especially when you're young. Third if Patrick's abuse was consistently physical in nature and fuelled by acute anger, would Maya and Derek be in any way expecting something cold blooded and subtle.

The characters are young. Being ignorant is just plain realistic. So is being distracted by strong emotions. They may be legally adults, but that doesn't mean they've suddenly gained adult maturity. It takes time to become a proper adult. Most people don't manage it in their early twenties. Depressingly many people don't manage it by their seventies.

 

[Joshy92]

Am I the only one who never had a problem with the student loan situation?

Yes, it's not how they work, but how do people learn that? Typically from their parents. The vast majority of people across the world are immensely vulnerable to being screwed over by their parents. Most parents just don't do something like that.

Then you add other factors that would just make it easier. First as the whole thing was a ploy to break Maya and Josy up, Patrick had obviously learned about it and exploded to Maya's face. Is it surprising that a 19-year-old girl was too scared to read the small print properly? Second Maya's romance just had a massive obstacle thrown at it. That sort of thing distracts people. Especially when you're young. Third if Patrick's abuse was consistently physical in nature and fuelled by acute anger, would Maya and Derek be in any way expecting something cold blooded and subtle.

The characters are young. Being ignorant is just plain realistic. So is being distracted by strong emotions. They may be legally adults, but that doesn't mean they've suddenly gained adult maturity. It takes time to become a proper adult. Most people don't manage it in their early twenties. Depressingly many people don't manage it by their seventies.

Exactly. People are fucking stupid especially at that age and she trusted Patrick to have her best interest at heart.

Do the people who complain about the writing expect it to be some sort of oscar worthy plot lol.