Roger-a-Dale

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the main clue why we considered Sage to be Jade's daughter was the scene where Jade throws the family portraits at Burke, where we see 2 portraits, one of which is Tybalt and the other remains hidden, scene which of course Mc doesn't see.


that Sage used the name Morgan was a novelty added on the run to make the whole thing less unbelievable.
There is also Jacob warning MC to be careful with Sage that makes it obvious that there is more to Sage than her relationship with Chad and her position among the HOTs. MC cuts Jacob off before he can drop the Burke bomb.

Then at the prep party Sage complains that her parents are there. I haven't combed through that recently, but I'm pretty sure Sage specifically says her mother is there but the only grown woman who has any lines is Jade.

So there are hints to it, but they are the kind of hints that stand out after multiple playthroughs. For a first timer the revelation might as well have zero foreshadowing and the idea that MC should have seen it coming is entirely based on things that happened off-screen. It's sloppy.

My example was admittedly heavy handed and kinda reliant on the rest of the characters being more fleshed out so there'd be more red herrings. More name drops so Sage doesn't stand out so much and such. My idea is that there should be subtle hints that a perceptive first timer might pick on and the vast majority of first time players would go "Why didn't I see that coming?" at the reveal. Really get the players to identify with the MC in the moment.

Instead we got... sloppy.
 

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Then at the prep party Sage complains that her parents are there. I haven't combed through that recently, but I'm pretty sure Sage specifically says her mother is there but the only grown woman who has any lines is Jade.
She says her dad is there, with Geoff (his name unknown at that time) as the prime suspect. He said he thought his daughter was at the party, leading us to believe it was indeed Sage.
 

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It's common in fiction not to reuse names as it can cause unnecessary confusion otherwise.

If Bella were to use Sage's last name when calling her out for being late, she would most likely use "Ms Burke." It's a power play, highlighting that despite who she is, it's unacceptable to be late.
 

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Jill isn't on my top list, just too good to be interesting for me, but when DPC nails her... she's gorgeous

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When he doesn't, oh boy...

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I agree, among the main L.I. I think Jill is the one going backwards in terms of design. In my latest playthrough most of the ugly design came from the latter part of the game. But as you said if DPC nails it, I can say that Jill is the most beautiful character in my opinion. This is coming from a Sage lover
 
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Roger-a-Dale

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She says her dad is there, with Geoff (his name unknown at that time) as the prime suspect. He said he thought his daughter was at the party, leading us to believe it was indeed Sage.
Right, thanks. So really the only hint MC gets on-screen is the Jacob one which only happens if you go for Sage after the body shots with Sarah instead of going to Maya or getting the restaurant special.

So first timers have pretty much zero chance to see it coming, but MC behaves like he should have. Then the "she uses Morgan" bit confirms that MC got a lot of information off-screen. Sloppy.

It's common in fiction not to reuse names as it can cause unnecessary confusion otherwise.

If Bella were to use Sage's last name when calling her out for being late, she would most likely use "Ms Burke." It's a power play, highlighting that despite who she is, it's unacceptable to be late.
No she wouldn't. Morgan-Burke is Sage's legal last name. Bella would either use that or accept Sage's preference of just Morgan. That's enough. Calling Sage just Burke is a cunt move not a power move. It's something someone like Becky would do. It's unprofessional. Bella is above that. And she doesn't need something petty like that. All Bella has to do is stare and Sage will fold. Just like everyone else.
 
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