VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Dr. Javi]

Anyone who reads "Assuming the average render speed stays the same, the PCs should be done with the animation queue on February 7-9 at the latest" and thinks that a February release is even remotely possible is crazy. Firstly, per the laws of the universe, "February 7-9 at the latest" means there is no chance it finishes before February 9. February 10-11 is itself optimistic. Secondly, is the thought that by the time the animation queue is finished everything else is also going to be finished? I don't think there is any reason to believe that. I'm sure DPC will find plenty of things to add/remove/change/playtest between now and then. Thirdly, what about beta testing? Zero-shot that takes less than two weeks. I'd leave 2.5-3 weeks. Fourthly, he only releases on Fridays. Even in the non-existent world where he finishes the update in late February, do you really think he would release the update on February 28 instead of collecting another month of pledges?

March 21 feels borderline optimistic but we then get into the issue of if it takes until March 28, does he then delay until April to get more pledges or is that a bridge too far? It was clear many months ago that March was the best-case scenario and this progress report all but confirms it.

These updates have gotten far too large and unwieldy. For the love of God, split them up into parts like other devs do. At this point, the next question is does Ep. 12 take a year and half to develop?

 

[mike12013]

Gonna be the 4 millionth person to notice this, but this is the first time reading previously read dialogue since my first playthrough

Ooh the foreshadowing

 

[Lagunavii]

Secondly, is the thought that by the time the animation queue is finished everything else is also going to be finished?

The way DPC has always described his way of working and his idle PCs. Yes the thought is by the time the Animation queue is finished, everything else SHOULD be. There are of course no guarantees, he could be talking bollocks... But you are right anyway, just because the animations finish on the 9th doesn't mean the testers get it on the 10th

Even in the non-existent world where he finishes the update in late February, do you really think he would release the update on February 28 instead of collecting another month of pledges?

Nope, not a chance, he needs a few weeks promotion or rather a week or two of dead time, where his pledges can up there pledges to get the version early. And it's not like he can drop a release date when he gives the testers it mid/late Feb as he doesn't know how long it could take.

March 21 feels borderline optimistic but we then get into the issue of if it takes until March 28, does he then delay until April to get more pledges or is that a bridge too far? It was clear many months ago that March was the best-case scenario and this progress report all but confirms it.

Thats the latest I've seen yet, most guesses I've seen it put at 7 or 14 (they're optimistic I think) but as to if it actually drops then? It'll depend on when the date gets announced.

A Feb announcement gives time for the patrons to decide there pledge for a March release

A March announcement gives time for them to set up for an April release.

(if its the later is proven true, that would just be fucking poor form from DPC)

 

[VaderExMachina]

moved steam previews to part 2, so all patreon previews stay in part 1

 

[Beefle]

Gonna be the 4 millionth person to notice this, but this is the first time reading previously read dialogue since my first playthrough

Ooh the foreshadowing View attachment 4430931

Remind me, what does he say prior to this? Something "sexist", right? I presume she's referring to Maya?

 

[mike12013]

Remind me, what does he say prior to this? Something "sexist", right? I presume she's referring to Maya?

Just learning "man" skills like DIY and the like

 

[Roger-a-Dale]

Anyone who reads "Assuming the average render speed stays the same, the PCs should be done with the animation queue on February 7-9 at the latest" and thinks that a February release is even remotely possible is crazy. Firstly, per the laws of the universe, "February 7-9 at the latest" means there is no chance it finishes before February 9. February 10-11 is itself optimistic. Secondly, is the thought that by the time the animation queue is finished everything else is also going to be finished? I don't think there is any reason to believe that. I'm sure DPC will find plenty of things to add/remove/change/playtest between now and then. Thirdly, what about beta testing? Zero-shot that takes less than two weeks. I'd leave 2.5-3 weeks. Fourthly, he only releases on Fridays. Even in the non-existent world where he finishes the update in late February, do you really think he would release the update on February 28 instead of collecting another month of pledges?

March 21 feels borderline optimistic but we then get into the issue of if it takes until March 28, does he then delay until April to get more pledges or is that a bridge too far? It was clear many months ago that March was the best-case scenario and this progress report all but confirms it.

These updates have gotten far too large and unwieldy. For the love of God, split them up into parts like other devs do. At this point, the next question is does Ep. 12 take a year and half to develop?

If ep 12 comes in two parts each of them is going to take a year and thus a total of two rather than one and half. Smaller chunks will end up taking more time. Which one do you want faster? Your next fix or the actual complete game? That's what those other devs do. They give you small updates faster, but in total their games take several years and still have less content than one BADIK episode.

 

[Maccabbee]

Remind me, what does he say prior to this? Something "sexist", right? I presume she's referring to Maya?

Yeah, how his dad teaches him guy things, like martial arts and contracting/construction...

 

[Maccabbee]

If ep 12 comes in two parts each of them is going to take a year and thus a total of two rather than one and half. Smaller chunks will end up taking more time. Which one do you want faster? Your next fix or the actual complete game? That's what those other devs do. They give you small updates faster, but in total their games take several years and still have less content than one BADIK episode.

Fuck, man, I'll take it any way he wants to give it... NO HOMO!

 

[Lagunavii]

If ep 12 comes in two parts each of them is going to take a year and thus a total of two rather than one and half. Smaller chunks will end up taking more time. Which one do you want faster? Your next fix or the actual complete game? That's what those other devs do. They give you small updates faster, but in total their games take several years and still have less content than one BADIK episode.

How would he split it up anyway,

by route? Ultimately someone's getting fucked over as there preferred girls still months away?

By in game days? People would just fucking moan, no lewd content in this update, update brought no progression, etc etc

BaDik is not really a game that allows it's chapters to be broken down further.

 

[Faceless0ne]

How do I rename myself in the gallery of part 1/2?

 

[felicemastronzo]

Gonna be the 4 millionth person to notice this, but this is the first time reading previously read dialogue since my first playthrough

Ooh the foreshadowing View attachment 4430931

Cheap feminism, for a characterization then really never used. Because other than being a lesbian and taking the equality class, Maya has never expressed this feminism of hers

 

[Darkwen the Josy lover]

Cheap feminism, for a characterization then really never used. Because other than being a lesbian and taking the equality class, Maya has never expressed this feminism of hers

Watch she'll get mad at Josy for going into modeling

 

[Roger-a-Dale]

How would he split it up anyway,

by route? Ultimately someone's getting fucked over as there preferred girls still months away?

By in game days? People would just fucking moan, no lewd content in this update, update brought no progression, etc etc

BaDik is not really a game that allows it's chapters to be broken down further.

Yeah, BADIK is that kind of story. Technically there are a lot of plot threads, but they are woven into a complicated pattern. They need to progress together.

In a sandbox kind of game the characters' stories are only loosely connected so you can just update one at a time.

And a game with fewer characters can be updated faster because what sets the pace isn't the total content, but individual content. Simpler stories can be updated in smaller chunks.

 

[Chalk boss]

How would he split it up anyway,

by route? Ultimately someone's getting fucked over as there preferred girls still months away?

By in game days? People would just fucking moan, no lewd content in this update, update brought no progression, etc etc

BaDik is not really a game that allows it's chapters to be broken down further.

The episode can be divided by freeroam. The freeroam is always in the middle of the game. This was the case in ep8 and ep10. It logically divides the game into two parts.
So if for example ep12 is so big that DPC can't make it in a year, he can split it by freeroam.
But I don't think that's going to happen anyway. He'll made poll and a lot of people will vote to release the whole episode.

 

[travelman]

I say "DEAD!"
You say "GAME!"

DEAD!

-

 

[Roger-a-Dale]

Cheap feminism, for a characterization then really never used. Because other than being a lesbian and taking the equality class, Maya has never expressed this feminism of hers

It's kind of the point that Maya is an actual feminist while Wendy, Dany etc. are just a different type of wrong. I suppose you could have Maya biting Dany's head off when she is being a cunt to Jamie, but the relationship needs to progress a bit further. At this time Maya isn't close enough to the other DIKs to intervene like that. If she gets into a fight over MC or Derek she has a personal bias and Dany (or whoever) can just ignore her.

 

[Lagunavii]

The episode can be divided by freeroam. The freeroam is always in the middle of the game. This was the case in ep8 and ep10. It logically divides the game into two parts.
So if for example ep12 is so big that DPC can't make it in a year, he can split it by freeroam.
But I don't think that's going to happen anyway. He'll made poll and a lot of people will vote to release the whole episode.

Except that it doesn't, episode 10 had like 4 freeroams
We did the dik mansion twice,
We did the bbq
We did myas house

Episode 9 had 3 of them, and that bloody started with one.

Splitting them by Free Roam you'd get the "there was no content in this update" complaint.

There's simply no way to split it in a way thats beneficial and pleases all

 

[felicemastronzo]

It's kind of the point that Maya is an actual feminist while Wendy, Dany etc. are just a different type of wrong. I suppose you could have Maya biting Dany's head off when she is being a cunt to Jamie, but the relationship needs to progress a bit further. At this time Maya isn't close enough to the other DIKs to intervene like that. If she gets into a fight over MC or Derek she has a personal bias and Dany (or whoever) can just ignore her.

It is one thing to nom be a feminazi, but Maya does not even have with mc any conversation that makes us perceive her as a feminist. In the end it only serves to justify her taking Jade's class, and that's it.

 

[Roger-a-Dale]

It is one thing to nom be a feminazi, but Maya does not even have with mc any conversation that makes us perceive her as a feminist. In the end it only serves to justify her taking Jade's class, and that's it.

So what would you have her do?