VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[John Ness]

Do we think Nick can be forgiven?

Fuck Nick, I would vote to give his room to Derek

 

[ffive]

I just tested it by going full Karen against Tara and Nick (just to be safe) and didn't invite Tara to the event and what we thought is true:

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It seems either the invite and/or the total attitude against Tara is the trigger if you can do DIK or CHICK on neutral.

It's specifically whether you've invited Tara. Attitude isn't included, so MC can be initially an ass to her, but change his mind during the episode:

$ mc_info = ["{size=-1}Pull a mean prank{/size}","ep11_pp_kp_prank_event_label","{size=-1}Let them handle it{/size}","ep11_pp_kp_boot_event_label","{size=-1}Confront Kylie & Penny{/size}","ep11_pp_kp_confront_event_label",not ep11_invited_tara]

The last part, not ep11_invited_tara is the decision switch.

 

[Yellowie The Goldie]

Do we think Nick can be forgiven? Even if you're super nice to him throughout the game he still throws you to the dogs during the argument. I understand that he felt cornered but seems like a dick move to throw everybody under the bus to cover his own mistakes.

It's bad enough that he fucks Tommy's girl behind his back (even if she came onto him), but throwing MC under the bus to cover his own ass and snitching on MC with regards to Bella...Now that's the ultimate dick move.

You know why? Because everyone collectively agreed to keep it a secret if MC fucked Jade and showed the video. Even Tommy that makes fun of Derek later on makes no mention of the whole Jade thing. (John Boy brings up the issue if you are dating Sage and you fucked her mom at the end of ep 9)

Tommy respected the DIK code and "Family Comes First" when it came down to something THAT personal. He doesn't keep a lid on the whole "MC fucked my sister" for obvious reasons, it's very personal to him which he barely gets a pass for.

It's why I personally despise Nick for that. When Tommy is able to respect such a serious and big secret like Jade - who literally was a teacher...But Nick couldn't do the same with the other teacher...It speaks volumes. Tommy has our back no matter what and Nick is a snake who decides to jump ship the moment the going gets too tough.

 

[ciberma7865]

does anybody choose to play the concert on the non jill/bella paths?

I do in my Dick other road

Spoiler: mostly in the hope of meeting her

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[FalconLover420]

As awesome as Sage is, that point is still valid regardless of her intentions. Once you "sit on that dick" you don't go back to friends, you either get promoted or fired. So there should be no alone time between her and MC if that's the case.
Hell, one can even see it bothering Jill in a group setting when he pulls Sage to the side, as well as when he's talking to Maya while she lays on him.

While yes that is true about what she said, however Sage isn't like that compared to Zoey. Sage sat on that dick, but as soon as he entered a relationship, she is off limits. But like what I was saying originally, Zoey did not like that the MC was already in another relationship and still shot her shot.

There are friend groups in real life that have fucked each other, but still remain a close knit of friends.

 

[cooldevo]

It doesn't really matter what path we're on. Bella is capable of doing something like that, and we've seen it, which is completely unlike her. There has to be a very serious explanation for her behavior, because it's so out of character. If I were writing a game, I'd make the Bella/Jill routes mutually exclusive, and so far I don't see any other goals than mild drama.

If you look at the entire writing as a whole, you are right yes. As an entire body of writing, there's a HUGE number of discrepancies and holes that don't add up. And yeah, forced drama is a big thing in a lot of those issues.

I personally try to look at each playthrough as it's own world and try to not take into account the 'meta' from non-made choices. On my Bella playthrough, Bella was not capable of doing it because Jill and MC were never more than friends. So since that option never existed, she was not given the opportunity to consider, or be capable of, it. Helps to try and keep things "sane" in my headcanon.

 

[Chillout1984]

It's specifically whether you've invited Tara. Attitude isn't included, so MC can be initially an ass to her, but change his mind during the episode:

$ mc_info = ["{size=-1}Pull a mean prank{/size}","ep11_pp_kp_prank_event_label","{size=-1}Let them handle it{/size}","ep11_pp_kp_boot_event_label","{size=-1}Confront Kylie & Penny{/size}","ep11_pp_kp_confront_event_label",not ep11_invited_tara]

The last part, not ep11_invited_tara is the decision switch.

Ah I found that code as well, but didn't understand that switch. I thought it meant that Tara wasn't invited to be able to get that option, I found that strange.

I do wonder if it will have any repercussions in the future if we pull the prank on them while Tara is around. So far there is no callback to the code "ep11_kp_choice = "DIK"" other than a report update at the end of the episode.

 

[coolguy146]

Do we have a walkthrough?
for ep 11

 

[TuckeredOut]

does anybody choose to play the concert on the non jill/bella paths?

Yes, don't forget that Tybalt is going to be playing at the concert and fingers crossed it's another opportunity to embarrass him publicly.

I don't think it will go on further than spring break. The end of school year stuff will probably be in the epilogues. The reason I think this, is because I'm pretty sure spring break/mardi gras is usually the biggest fuck fest of the year for college students. Just stop the story on a high note.

There's no way DPC's going to miss the opportunity to make us write those finals.

Is there actually any benefits of doing a chick run from Ep9 onwards?
I only have DIK/Neutral runs and honestly the only MG I would consider CHICK status being better is Jill, but in Ep 10 and 11, she seems to not be so annoyed by the +dik choices.

Personally I like the CHICK interactions with Sage a lot more than DIK, it gives more depth to their relationship

 

[cooldevo]

The only thing I have to complain about in this episode is that I had to play while knowing Rio was completely beaten up and tortured. That made me feel absolutely miserable the entire time. I honestly think that DPC should have at least let us be with her—even if it was just two renders at the end: one of the MC knocking on her door and another of him hugging her.

The only reason the MC would know she was "interrogated" was if you were on Quinn's path, when she admits it to the MC.

Any other path, you just think she's off sick... unless I missed a conversation somewhere.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Another thing that amazed me was Bella figuring out Derek and it pissing Derek off. That deal she made with him is pretty sweet

 

[Chillout1984]

There's no way DPC's going to miss the opportunity to make us write those finals.

Unless (like in Harry Potter) MC for some reason leaves B&R after spring break. This could be for any reason, including extremes like B&R being destroyed or something

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

I personally try to look at each playthrough as it's own world and try to not take into account the 'meta' from non-made choices. On my Bella playthrough, Bella was not capable of doing it because Jill and MC were never more than friends. So since that option never existed, she was not given the opportunity to consider, or be capable of, it. Helps to try and keep things "sane" in my headcanon.

I look at it like the Dark Matter series (with Jennifer Connelly). A huge multiverse, the same people, the same personalities, but at a certain point they made a different choice. That is, they are capable of this, but they did it differently in this realm.

 

[Chillout1984]

Another thing that amazed me was Bella figuring out Derek and it pissing Derek off. That deal she made with him is pretty sweet

She finally got to see what Cathy saw in him.

 

[osculim]

I knew I should not have bothered with this damn fish. They keep dying for no apparent reason by he 10 12 at a time. The tank is clean they got food

 

[FalconLover420]

But that's not a distinction Sage makes there. She is talking in absolutes like a Sith. Plus, what does it matter if Sage intends to take MC or not? It's not something MC's actual girlfriend knows, and to that girlfriend the optics of Fuckface hanging out with Sage and hanging out with Zoey are basically the same -- MC is hanging out with his ex, potentially in private. They're both just as uncomfortable, but Sage is giving herself a pass.

Not to mention when you take pictures with her during the Halloween party she has no real issues with flirting with MC, and doesn't really mind him doing it back at all:

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Sage was pulling a Bianca before Bianca was even a thing.

Look at what she says, we both know you shouldn't LOL

Bianca does not say that infact she breathes into your ear when you grab her ass

Aside that point, there are friend groups in real life that have fucked each other but know it didn't work out. Same thing applies here, Sage has made it a point that if fuckface's relationship does not work, he knows who to call.

Additionally Jill knows about Sage and MC past, but she doesn't know anything about zoey.

 

[BobRossGhost]

Unless (like in Harry Potter) MC for some reason leaves B&R after spring break. This could be for any reason, including extremes like B&R being destroyed or something

DPC gonna pull a Life is Strange and tornado that shithole

 

[DarkKiller]

This only happens if you are on Jill's path. There is no requirement to be on Jill's LI path to get onto Bella's. Once you befriend Jill, up through the first tennis date, do not do anything romantic or touchy-feely, and Jill will comment to Bella several times that there doesn't seem to be a romantic interest from the MC. So you can't be seeing Bella behind Jill's back if there was nothing going on.

Jill does get annoyed/upset at Bella for starting to see someone she tried to fix Jill up with, but with the "friend" path timelines, there's nothing malicious or behind anyone's back.

As a Bella simp, she fucked up, there's no way around that.
On a CHICK playthrough she actively encourages Jill to date him, on a DIK playthrough although she tells Jill he's not a good choice she dates him still behind Jill's back. And in both cases she knew Jill was interested.

Now Jill herself recognises fuckface doesn't seem interested in her after the tennis date, and on Bella's path during the bench conversation she tells fuckface she wasn't sure about him, but still, imagine if a friend of yours who knew you were interested in someone, dated that someone behind your back, would you not feel betrayed?
Worst still, imagine if you found out by seeing them two fuck each other.
Yeah... not a good look.

So yeah, Isabella should have told Jill about it as soon she decided to pursue it in EP7, in fact it should've been even sooner but I'll give her some leeway on that since she was still trying to convince herself to stop before she gave in to her feelings.

 

[Lagunavii]

Yeah I think that might be our best chance to get out sorta clean. Bella is already having issues with school and rules. I would probably make that the main cheat route for Bianca. Unless she is some psyco murderer and she stuffs her victims in that secret room of hers.

Given the next episode will likely be the resolution to the Bella arc, I think you might be onto something here, given the already rule breaking and whatever the MC finds out about her, it's likely that we shall have an option for an out there, if its not forced (after all way backwhen MC has already said if he knew about her he wouldn't have kissed her or whatever it was)

 

[BobRossGhost]

Given the next episode will likely be the resolution to the Bella arc, I think you might be onto something here, given the already rule breaking and whatever the MC finds out about her, it's likely that we shall have an option for an out there, if its not forced (after all way backwhen MC has already said if he knew about her he wouldn't have kissed her or whatever it was)

i think they will break up at the very start of the episode and there will be a choice to fight for her or not