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Valithor

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Hahn1900 said:
Sage is the only one (relevant) that is graduating. Jill started her third year and will have another one.

Though... it doesnt really matter for the game.

And just for the sake of it, Sage is 22, Jill 21. Josy, Maya, MC are 19.

But as i said, not really important, the game will not go on after the first semester anyways, Most likely Spring Break will be the end.

Besides... immature age related? Is not a age thing. I knew people who were 14 and more mature than people at the age of 40. In that regard, age doesnt mean shit and never will.
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Obviously maturity is impacted by other things than age, but age plays a part here. Maturity is highly impacted by previous life experiences, so the more rocky childhood you've had the more mature you'll turn out (that's another simplification, coz every trauma can develop you in multiple directions, but I'm trying to keep it simple). If we take 19 yo Quinn vs 19 yo J/M for sure Quinn would handle her shit better, but that's the thing I've had in mind.
If I were to compare maturity of Maya vs Josy id it depends on aspect which you compare them in, but overall id favor Maya coz she's got her goals clearly set, but her goals come from what I've surfaced earlier - tough childhood. If you take Josy you'll get an easy going girl, who never had too much spotlight, but everyone liked her, she had a happy life w/o many troubles (iirc the divorce thing happens shortly before story of the game), so it's not surprising that when problems start piling up (like aforementioned divorce) she doesn't know how to handle them.
My post was a generalization and included this unspoken assessment.
 
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Darkwen said:
if she didn't put all her eggs in one basket would had made her look better to me anyway, thankful as Sage and a wise crazy simp once said Josy was the mastermind that got it done;)
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But if the MC doesn't tell Josy about Chad & Troy, then she doesn't end up the mastermind and the MC can still get the papers :oops:
 
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mangosok said:
Sage's route is quite interesting and sweet. But it will be even more interesting if you fuck Jade.
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I probably wouldn't do that but i'm curious to see how thing do in that setting. I will probably lurk about it after i finish my Sage route.
Except sometime when i choose to see an easy sex scene and retake my path prior this choice (like with riona and camilla), i mainly stick to one girl. Wouldn't mind some legit threesome as long as my main girl is okay with it.
 
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Eldiran said:
I probably wouldn't do that but i'm curious to see how thing do in that setting. I will probably lurk about it after i finish my Sage route.
Except sometime when i choose to see an easy sex scene and retake my path prior this choice (like with riona and camilla), i mainly stick to one girl. Wouldn't mind some legit threesome as long as my main girl is okay with it.
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Alright then, have fun!
 
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Tell me, did this song first appear only in episode 11 in the main menu, or was it in every episode of the third season? For some reason, I only noticed it while playing episode 11. It's the kind of song that feels like it's warning players they're in for complete madness, lol. I like it.
 
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Blue Milk said:
It absolutely does not come out of nowhere. It's been plainly obvious for ages that Josy was a follower, someone who would just go along with the group and didn't have much of a voice or identity of her own. People were saying this for years, that she's setting aside a lot of her own needs because she felt like her focus needed to be on helping Maya, and then she acknowledges exactly this in Ep 11, proving all those people right.
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Here's a summary of the Episodes up to 7.

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= She's a healthy girl who likes the MC, but has a relationship conflict.


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= She's distraught about her future, and likes the MC.

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= Oh no! The reveal. What A Coincidence™.

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= Josy has aspirations for her future, and takes the first romantic step with a girl who reciprocates.

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=Outside of the Spinning game, nothing out of the ordinary for a girl adjusting to her new environment, despite having feelings for two people in a truth and dare game.

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=Josy forgives and loves Maya.

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=Josy seems pretty rational and positive regardless of the outcome.

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=Josy has a good relationship with her father.

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=Josy is really into the MC and so far college life

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=Even with the Preps, Josy is a likable person and has a bubbly personality, but will get angry over her friends.

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=Josy is good with many people, can tolerate, and understand them.

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=Josy is sexually confident and secure with her lovers.

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=Josy is still sexually active, and confident and passionate.

Patrick!

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=Josy is very happy with the MC, and trying to keep her relationship with Maya going despite Patrick's involvement.

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=Josy is nice with people and honest with her feelings. She is observant of others and understands them well. She's into her economics class. She's curious about the MC and his relationships. She's smart and mature with money, and wants to join a gym. This is because Josy is a mature and smart girl who's studying economics, and has feelings for the MC.

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=Josy is a bit sensitive about her looks and height, but is enjoying her time with the HOTs. This is because she is a normal, healthy girl.

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=Josy really likes the MC. Yet despite that, and being Jill's rival, is a good girl to Jill, and even using the MC's guidance to help her out. Because Josy is a mature and caring person.

And it's tiresome to continue. But unless there's some serious development happening from 8 onward, the Episode 11 stuff comes out of nowhere.

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=Josy has a healthly relationship with the MC, is working on her relationship with Maya, likes living in the HOTs dorm, and is encouraging Maya to join.

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=Josy is kind to the people she cares about, sexually aggressive, in charge and making suggestions, and even scared of heights at first, then gets over it.

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=Josy has healthy, positive relationships with her friends, even Becky. She's too nice with people, and it's clear that she's in love with the MC.

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=Josy supports her friend and lover, makes light of a rude comment by Tybalt, and instead of having sexy times with the MC, supports Maya and helps her with the Hallowe'en costume. She's positive and knows how to goof around.

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-Josy is enjoying the party, and enjoying her studies.

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=Josy loves the MC, being around him, talks to everyone about him, including her dad. The MC likes her too, and are playful together. Though Oscar treated her poorly, it didn't seem like a big deal.

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=Josy is flirty, horny, positive, and having a great time with Maya and MC.

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=Josy is happy going steady with the throuple, and is okay with hangovers.

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=Josy is mature in how to deal with the throuple, moreso than the MC and Maya. She dares Maya to kiss the MC in public, and she does. She ignores what people say about them, and is confident and excited about the relationship.

=The date with Josy and the pillowfort is optional. It's all positive, and Josy ends up being embarassed about her picture of the MC.

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=Josy likes spending time with her throuple, even if they're not studying the same topic. She will also protect her relationship, and can understand that Becky has a crush on the MC.

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-Josy is sexually active, positive, and supportive of her friends and lovers.

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=Josy is generally happy, though sad about Maya not telling of her abuse, and having to deal with telling everyone's parents about the throuple

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-Josy is feeling "lost". Yet despite that, she is constructively started a blog to express her interest in fashion, exercise, and healthy food.
-This is the first time this occurs in the narrative for us to be aware of her feelings of self-identity and meaning.

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=Josy confides in showing MC her blog, and he helps her out with it. They meet her mom, and we understand why she's into fashion. Apparently Josy has been having problems, and Oscar was one of many issues about herself.

=Josy, Maya and the MC can have one hell of a kinky threesome.

=Josy can then have a vibrator classroom experience.

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=And here we are.

Where did Josy's wah moment come from? The first time we hear of her being "lost" is from the talk of her in her room with Heather, talking about her blog. And even then, it's a constructive form of introspection as she talks about fashion, exercise, and healthy eating. The fight with Oscar was a contributing factor, but that was a minor thing.

  • There is no other evidence of Josy not knowing who she is, or questioning that, or wondering what she's good at, why she's going to school or even likes it (she enjoys economics), or whether she likes Maya enough to say she loves her (she does, but can't say it anymore?).
  • It comes out of the blue and only in Episode 11.

And that's it. The most positive, spunky, confident and outgoing girl of the bunch, suddenly has an existential crisis. But only in Episode 11, and nowhere else.

Why?

Melodrama.

Except that literally can happen for people in college. A lot of them come out of school with a certain personal identity but then in college, they're back to square one and who they were in high school doesn't generally work in college so reevaluation, reinvention, growth, and change is necessary and it can lead to an identity crisis in terms of figuring out who they really are and who they're going to be.

College is a massive journey of exploration in that regard.
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It's for people to decide what they want to study, and pursue in life. Not FEEL BAD about choosing a major. Clearly she likes her economics class, including her economics analysis class.

Here's the Episode 11 line even if you declare your love for Josy in the throuple:

"I don't know who I am anymore. I feel like I'm following the stream. Just tagging along. I don't know if the things I do are for me or someone else. Like college, I used to think I wanted it. But am I here for me, or am I doing it to make Dad proud? Do I want this? What am I even good at? I feel like I'm mediocre at everything. If someone asked me what my skills are, I wouldn't know what to say."

That's the only place in the narrative it happens. Unless you can locate her wah moments from episode 8 to 10.

Buddy, if you'd actually recognised how much she was struggling, which was clearly displayed, you wouldn't be saying this.
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Show me.


Again, not "for some reason", it's always been there.
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Where?

I recommend you focus on 8-10, cause I sure as heck couldn't find it in 1-7.

I don't believe this is being quickly written, because as I've been saying, this has been something of Josy's since the very beginning,
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Quote which chapter then. From 1-4, which I'm assuming when you write "beginning", you mean Season 1.

being unsure of herself and her direction. If anything, I'd say it's just finally being addressed and if people didn't see this coming for her then they weren't paying very close attention.
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Well start sharing the secret, buddy. I have no idea where this build up of Josy's questioning her self came from. Hence, why it came out of nowhere in Episode 11.
 
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