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Even if Sage was asked before, MC doesn't know that. When on Sage's route you can also early on find out that she doesn't really like strippers/prostitutes. Just for my own sanity I would still ask her if she knows about it, because in my mind those two statements/facts wouldn't compute.
I see where you come from, I just don't agree mc should be blamed on every drama that could happened. while ofc storywriter will make everything moves around mc, but in story that just flow and not forced around you this restaurant topic will be forgeted because there bigger events for Sage or if they brought it up during divorce case, there like quarter of campus who know about it and maybe use it AND was part of it (while mc hear about it once during random fast conversation). so I just don't see a reason for Sage to blame that on you of all people. That's what my point.
 

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Sage is not priscilla LOL

That is priscilla is quinn or madam rose, there is a reason the restaurant/prostitution gets shut down.

If Sage knows about the prostitution, she would have said hell no or something like that.
Talking about Madame Rose, I'm still curious who this guy could be:

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Nowhere did I say Sage is not a priority to Tremolo. Zoey is still an important part of his life, that he wants to continue based on this text exchange. What their friendship will look like going forward is a mystery at this point.

But despite the exchange Tremolo has with Sage about Zoey the first time, & despite potentially saying I love you to Sage, he still wants to be friends with Zoey. That is a fact. The reality is what Tremolo sent in the text. What happens from there is yet to be determined.
you clearly imply that. MC has to hide what happened to Sage in order to “defend” Zoey. which means giving priority to Zoey

it is very unlikely that Sage will not ask him about how the party went, and not telling her what happened is like lying
 

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I think the whole mc doing something and its canon is a flawed argument.

Personally, I believe that DPC just doesn't know what to make the MC do.

Because if you think about it, anything without the player's input, the MC is a sensitive coward. An example after fighting the jocks, he starts saying he regrets fighting them and wallows for a few dialogue sentences.

Anyways the MC has to tell sage what happens because one, they are in a relationship and two its something that sage needs to know whats up. Remember she says that she doesn't trust zoey intentions and she is right about that.
 

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As people said before (including me): Zoey will go full Leah on B&R :devilish:
Inspired by your comment, question to people who tried both, is there a lot of difference for DIK and CHICK Zoey?

I play my MC DIK but choose for Zoey to be more CHICK to even things out and I'm curious now
 

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Inspired by your comment, question to people who tried both, is there a lot of difference for DIK and CHICK Zoey?

I play my MC DIK but choose for Zoey to be more CHICK to even things out and I'm curious now
The main difference is that DIK Zoey is more bitchy and cares more about herself than MC and his current relationship, while CHICK Zoey is more to herself and more sympathetic:

Example 1:
CHICK Zoey
zo "But now you know where I stand."
zo "I'm sorry you'd have to hurt someone to be with me. But I don't want to have any more regrets about us."
zo "I know I want this. And it feels so good to finally say it out loud to you."
DIK Zoey
zo "But now you know where I stand. And it feels so good to finally say it out loud to you."

Example 2:
mc "I'm... I'm in a relationship..."
DIK Zoey:
zo "I don't care."
zo "Pick me."
zo "[name]... Pick me."
CHICK Zoey:
Zo: *says nothing*
 
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you clearly imply that. MC has to hide what happened to Sage in order to “defend” Zoey. which means giving priority to Zoey

it is very unlikely that Sage will not ask him about how the party went, and not telling her what happened is like lying
That's an opinion by you. Tremolo wishes to continue being friends with Zoey (canon). Tell a woman that your ex-girlfriend / childhood friend confessed her love to you. And you still want to be friends with her despite that confession. Even if you rejected her advances. See how well that conversation is going to go for you. And if you think it's going to be a nice heart to heart where everyone gets what they want. I'd speculate you don't know women. Coupled with the fact the in all likelihood Zoey is going to be going to B&R in the spring. Should be a fun conversation with Sage.

I'm not saying I want to be friends with Zoey. Tremolo wants to still be friends with Zoey. This is out of the player's hands. You have no choice in the matter. And until the next episode is released, we won't know what that friendship will look like.

My point that I have reiterated over & over again. Is that Tremolo wishes to still be friends with Zoey. Telling Sage or any love interest about Zoey's confession will either jeopardize his relationship with his love interest or jeopardize his friendship with Zoey. To this point we do not know if he would be okay giving up Zoey if he has to choose.
 
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This! Nailed it. I couldn't have put it better.
With Sage, it's all about communicating with her and being honest. I think he needs to say about Zoey and that Sage's concerns were justified.
How were they justified?

She said that his ex would know how to push his buttons. That she didn't trust her. But she did trust MC.

MC didn't accept Zoey. Sage was right about Zoey...but nothing happened!
MC loves Sage. Sage was right about the MC.
Sage loves MC. MC was right about Sage, and she had feelings for him last Episode.

End of conflict. Time for next conflict.

I'm sure many other girls will flirt and like MC, and declare it or just grab the guy, like Camila, Josy, etc. It means nothing, because Sage and MC are in love. They trust each other. They know what lifestyle they lead, parties they go to, and who they interact with. Sage may not like or dislike some girls, but that's nothing new. You outright reject women at the panty party at multiple occasions. Do we tell her about Mia, Erin, Clara, or Becky? Felicia, Charlotte and Leanne kisses? How about hugging Tara?

Do we need Sage to tell us about all the guys/girls that hit on her every week? No, we trust she can handle it, because the MC loves her.
-Unless she has a funny story to tell, or a potential threesome option (with a girl).
Does Sage need to be told about all the girls that hit on MC every week? No, she trusts he can handle it, because she loves him.
-Unless he has a funny story to tell, or a potential threesome option.

Because it's going to be a weekly event with the MC.

MC: "Hey Sage. Tara/Tiffani/Riona/Melanie/Sarah/some of the Rose strippers/etc....all wanted to get into my pants. 5 wanted to kiss me, 2 wanted my babies, I got 1 confessing their love to me, and 1 marriage proposal."
Sage: "Cool. I think it's time we gave Mel a ride..."

That's it.

It's not:
Sage: "OMG Sandy tried to hump you? And you tell me now? That was 0.49 days ago!"

This is nothing in comparison to the Jade issue, and that isn't even MC's fault.

This is such a theoretical, nothing issue.

Who cares about Zoey? Answer: nobody. Not even Sage, because she already dealt with that. And so did we.
 

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My point that I have reiterated over & over again. Is that Tremolo wishes to still be friends with Zoey. Telling Sage or any love interest about Zoey's confession will either jeopardize his relationship with his love interest or jeopardize his friendship with Zoey. To this point we do not know if he would be okay giving up Zoey if he has to choose.
We do know however that Tremolo wants (when it comes to Sage) to keep his secrets despite it gnawing on his conscience. Imo it's best to just rip the band-aid off while the relationship is still fresh and the secret is recent, rather than hoping it will never come out (and trust me, sooner or later almost every secret will somehow come out).
 
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How were they justified?

She said that his ex would know how to push his buttons. That she didn't trust her. But she did trust MC.

MC didn't accept Zoey. Sage was right about Zoey...but nothing happened!
MC loves Sage. Sage was right about the MC.
Sage loves MC. MC was right about Sage, and she had feelings for him last Episode.

End of conflict. Time for next conflict.

I'm sure many other girls will flirt and like MC, and declare it or just grab the guy, like Camila, Josy, etc. It means nothing, because Sage and MC are in love. They trust each other. They know what lifestyle they lead, parties they go to, and who they interact with. Sage may not like or dislike some girls, but that's nothing new. You outright reject women at the panty party at multiple occasions. Do we tell her about Mia, Erin, Clara, or Becky? Felicia, Charlotte and Leanne kisses? How about hugging Tara?

Do we need Sage to tell us about all the guys/girls that hit on her every week? No, we trust she can handle it, because the MC loves her.
-Unless she has a funny story to tell, or a potential threesome option (with a girl).
Does Sage need to be told about all the girls that hit on MC every week? No, she trusts he can handle it, because she loves him.
-Unless he has a funny story to tell, or a potential threesome option.

Because it's going to be a weekly event with the MC.

MC: "Hey Sage. Tara/Tiffani/Riona/Melanie/Sarah/some of the Rose strippers/etc....all wanted to get into my pants. 5 wanted to kiss me, 2 wanted my babies, I got 1 confessing their love to me, and 1 marriage proposal."
Sage: "Cool. I think it's time we gave Mel a ride..."

That's it.

It's not:
Sage: "OMG Sandy tried to hump you? And you tell me now? That was 0.49 days ago!"

This is nothing in comparison to the Jade issue, and that isn't even MC's fault.

This is such a theoretical, nothing issue.

Who cares about Zoey? Answer: nobody. Not even Sage, because she already dealt with that. And so did we.
The huge difference is that all other girls that flirt with him don't have such a deep connection with MC. It's pretty clear MC wants Zoey to be his Best friend/2nd best friend (depending on what you tell Derek) again, and that can create massive complications. MC wouldn't care because he's happy with Sage, but Sage would still care about Zoey's feelings, especially if Zoey will keep on acting on it.
 

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How were they justified?

She said that his ex would know how to push his buttons. That she didn't trust her. But she did trust MC.

MC didn't accept Zoey. Sage was right about Zoey...but nothing happened!
MC loves Sage. Sage was right about the MC.
Sage loves MC. MC was right about Sage, and she had feelings for him last Episode.

End of conflict. Time for next conflict.

I'm sure many other girls will flirt and like MC, and declare it or just grab the guy, like Camila, Josy, etc. It means nothing, because Sage and MC are in love. They trust each other. They know what lifestyle they lead, parties they go to, and who they interact with. Sage may not like or dislike some girls, but that's nothing new. You outright reject women at the panty party at multiple occasions. Do we tell her about Mia, Erin, Clara, or Becky? Felicia, Charlotte and Leanne kisses? How about hugging Tara?

Do we need Sage to tell us about all the guys/girls that hit on her every week? No, we trust she can handle it, because the MC loves her.
-Unless she has a funny story to tell, or a potential threesome option (with a girl).
Does Sage need to be told about all the girls that hit on MC every week? No, she trusts he can handle it, because she loves him.
-Unless he has a funny story to tell, or a potential threesome option.

Because it's going to be a weekly event with the MC.

MC: "Hey Sage. Tara/Tiffani/Riona/Melanie/Sarah/some of the Rose strippers/etc....all wanted to get into my pants. 5 wanted to kiss me, 2 wanted my babies, I got 1 confessing their love to me, and 1 marriage proposal."
Sage: "Cool. I think it's time we gave Mel a ride..."

That's it.

It's not:
Sage: "OMG Sandy tried to hump you? And you tell me now? That was 0.49 days ago!"

This is nothing in comparison to the Jade issue, and that isn't even MC's fault.

This is such a theoretical, nothing issue.

Who cares about Zoey? Answer: nobody. Not even Sage, because she already dealt with that. And so did we.
The thing is its not so much about Sage and its more about the MC.

An example is Heather situation, he got the blowjob on Halloween and he blurts out to Tommy that he got that blowjob as well with not inquiries to him. Of course Tommy would be pissed about that.

Now imagine with Sage, she already knows that she can't trust zoey to be around the MC and tells the MC about it. He shrugs that concern off and say its just a friend, and it wasnt just a friend.

So eventually something comes around concerning zoey, the MC dumb as he is will blurt out about Zoey confessing to him which will make Sage be like I told you so and probably get a bit pissed or anxious but then will ask how you feel about it.
 
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My point that I have reiterated over & over again. Is that Tremolo wishes to still be friends with Zoey. Telling Sage or any love interest about Zoey's confession will either jeopardize his relationship with his love interest or jeopardize his friendship with Zoey. To this point we do not know if he would be okay giving up Zoey if he has to choose.
Sage is okay with it. She said so on the phone. The whole issue is that she doesn't know or trust Zoey, not that she doesn't trust the MC. And she's done with that. She is resolved. She spoke her feelings. Her investment in MC & anxiety with Zoey is done. Finished. Over.

It doesn't matter what Zoey says or does after that fact. There's no need to tell Sage about every bloody interaction the MC has with women. It's silly.

There's also no indication that Sage gives a flip about Zoey being friends with MC later on. Since Sage trusts the MC, it's a complete non-issue.

That doesn't mean it won't come up ever, but it won't be some horrific revelation like "OMG Zoey confessed? How dare you not tell me! We're done!" Sage and MC have already declared their love, talked about a future together with potential kids, about Sage's real mom, previously met MC's dad, have a new Family together, etc. MC helped her overcome Chad. He's helping her overcome her parents divorce. He helped her find a new Family, and now potential real future family. They are beyond dealing with other suitors and exes.

I think some of you guys don't get romance, harlequin (fantastical), or basic relationship drama. It could be some soap opera style melodrama. But we've seen DPC's writing skills in just basic cliffhangers fizzle into nothing, alongside his many forgotten threads that are bridges to nowhere.

Stating Sage is big on honesty is like, yeah? So why would the MC have to tell her about every detail, about every interaction he has with all females? That's not within his character, nor is it some new raison d'être he needs to start following now that he's serious with Sage.

And we have no idea what DPC is doing with Zoey after we reject her. But for her to be some kind of "Romance Quinn", a love triangle, or the vengeful newly-lost love for MC that will come along again to destroy the MP/MG's...that's just silly.

Zoey had her big moment. And it's gone. Conflict: resolved.
 
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