VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Einarr the Red]

I wonder if he is tired of the story, or maybe if it has just gotten away from him and he doesn't see a good route to ending it.

Seems a bit odd to have the MC just entering college, a fertile ground for storytelling, and then end the game in under a calendar year.

I wonder exactly the same thing. Kinda feels like it.

 

[FalconLover420]

I agree with most everything else you posted, but I had a different take on this. So I'll throw this up for discussion.

To me, Josy is not confident at all. She only seems confident when she's doing what someone else wants, what she thinks is expected of her. Josy is a people pleaser, a follower and a submissive. She's the kind of person who will attach themselves to someone else and then follow them rather than finding her own direction. Given her statement about not being sure if she can say she still loves Maya was another clue for me. Its possible Josy attached herself to Maya, not because Josy was or wanted to be a lesbian but simply because Maya offered direction and purpose and Josy was drawn to that. As long as that boat didn't get rocked, she was happy. But then came them being separated because of Maya's dad and then college. That rocked the boat. Then Josy meets the MC over the summer and gets a crush on him, finally goes on what turns out to be a date (it was but Josy started out pretending it wasn't so she wouldn't feel guilty about what she was doing and wanting), and finally has sex with the MC. Rocked the boat some more. Then Josy, Maya and the MC end up in a relationship and Josy is realizing she really does like cock, she really does like the MC a LOT, and he's someone else she can attach herself too. And that rocks the boat enough to risk capsizing it. Throw in the asshat at the Halloween party belittling her and that was the straw that broke the camels back so to speak. It threw Josy into a crisis of identity, questioning everything about herself.

To me that much makes sense. What doesn't make sense to me is that neither Maya nor the MC seem to have either really noticed nor taken action during that time. At one point the MC does notice Josy is a bit withdrawn, something is off and she tells him she'll talk about it later... then they never talk... for over a month. After the party at Bella's the MC cuddles up with Maya and pays no attention to Josy which I thought was very odd for the MC because while he had been on a date with Maya (ice skating) which Josy declined to join them on (alarm bell my guy, alarm bell), he hasn't really had any personal time with Josy in awhile. Since he cares a lot about both, wouldn't he want to spend at least a little time cuddling up with Josy? Instead he ignores her... wtf? To me that was OOC for the MC.

Now granted if I were the MC, I'd have pushed the coffee table over, gotten both gals up, made a bed out of the couch cushions on the floor, flopped in the middle and had em both snuggle up cause "I just can't sleep good with you two next to me." Que kisses, snuggling and maybe a tender moment when he tells Josy he missed her on the ice skating date and she apologizes and he asks her to promise to talk to him soon and tell him whats going on cause she doesn't have to deal with it alone and she pensively promises to do so. But then he also tells her that he really wished she had been there because there was something he said to Maya that he's been wanting to say to her as well, "I love you, both of you, and I can't imagine not having you both in my life." Cue the tears from both gals, kissing Josy, snuggling her closer and her falling asleep feeling happier. But that's just me, I'm a romantic, what can I say.

I also would have handled the MCs conversation with his dad differently, which foreshadowed all this and was my first cue we were in for a crisis with Josy. What I would have changed was what Neil had to say. There was no need to turn Neil into a rambling asshat. I've have done:

MC "Well, I have two girlfriends actually>"
Neil "Wait son... sooner or later one of them will find out and then people are going to get hurt."
MC "No, dad, the know... we're all together, they're... well... sharing me I guess."
Neil "You mean... oh... well... wow... I don't know what to say. I didn't expect that. And they're okay with that?"
MC "Yeah, it was kinda their idea in a way. They were... umm... well... already best friends and..."
Neil "And couldn't decide who saw you first, something like that?" <chuckles>
MC "Something like that. It was confusing at first and it almost didn't... you know... happen. But I care about them and they both cared about me and we just decided all of us together was what made sense. We could deny we all had... feelings."
Neil "You really care about both of them that much?"
MC "Yeah dad... a lot."
Neil "And they feel the same about you?"
MC "They do... at least, I mean they act like it."
Neil "Well, I guess congratulations then son. Look I wasn't expecting this and its not a path I ever went down. But, I've always told you to follow your heart and if this is where your heart has led you, then follow it."
MC <smiles>
Neil "But I'll add this... make sure you listen to their hearts too. Its not just you you have to think about now, take care of them if you really want this to work. Pay attention because a woman won't always tell you how she really feels, even the best of them. Sometimes you have to really listen to what they don't say to hear their heart and hear what they really are trying to tell you. That goes double I guess with two girlfriends. Whatever happens son, I've always believed in you, and I'll always be here for you.
MC "Thanks dad, you're right, we've... there have been problems and I wasn't always a good listener... I'm working on it."
Neil "You'll get there, like our sparing, keep working on it every day. So, when do I get to meet them?"
<Both laugh>

An there you go, makes the same point and does the same foreshadowing as the original but this time Neil is... surprised and uncertain, but still the cool dad. Can I get that edit please?

So yeah, some of it seemd like lazy writing.

Just with that quote, I guess the whole gist is that make sure, you balance out both of them and listen to them. So MC can save the throuple in the future.

 

[Lightaces]

Leaked sex tape Sage run is fucking brutal

But the fireworks are gonna be so PRETTY!!!!!

 

[grarg]

I agree with most everything else you posted, but I had a different take on this. So I'll throw this up for discussion.

To me, Josy is not confident at all. She only seems confident when she's doing what someone else wants, what she thinks is expected of her. Josy is a people pleaser, a follower and a submissive. She's the kind of person who will attach themselves to someone else and then follow them rather than finding her own direction. Given her statement about not being sure if she can say she still loves Maya was another clue for me. Its possible Josy attached herself to Maya, not because Josy was or wanted to be a lesbian but simply because Maya offered direction and purpose and Josy was drawn to that. As long as that boat didn't get rocked, she was happy. But then came them being separated because of Maya's dad and then college. That rocked the boat. Then Josy meets the MC over the summer and gets a crush on him, finally goes on what turns out to be a date (it was but Josy started out pretending it wasn't so she wouldn't feel guilty about what she was doing and wanting), and finally has sex with the MC. Rocked the boat some more. Then Josy, Maya and the MC end up in a relationship and Josy is realizing she really does like cock, she really does like the MC a LOT, and he's someone else she can attach herself too. And that rocks the boat enough to risk capsizing it. Throw in the asshat at the Halloween party belittling her and that was the straw that broke the camels back so to speak. It threw Josy into a crisis of identity, questioning everything about herself.

To me that much makes sense. What doesn't make sense to me is that neither Maya nor the MC seem to have either really noticed nor taken action during that time. At one point the MC does notice Josy is a bit withdrawn, something is off and she tells him she'll talk about it later... then they never talk... for over a month. After the party at Bella's the MC cuddles up with Maya and pays no attention to Josy which I thought was very odd for the MC because while he had been on a date with Maya (ice skating) which Josy declined to join them on (alarm bell my guy, alarm bell), he hasn't really had any personal time with Josy in awhile. Since he cares a lot about both, wouldn't he want to spend at least a little time cuddling up with Josy? Instead he ignores her... wtf? To me that was OOC for the MC.

Now granted if I were the MC, I'd have pushed the coffee table over, gotten both gals up, made a bed out of the couch cushions on the floor, flopped in the middle and had em both snuggle up cause "I just can't sleep good with you two next to me." Que kisses, snuggling and maybe a tender moment when he tells Josy he missed her on the ice skating date and she apologizes and he asks her to promise to talk to him soon and tell him whats going on cause she doesn't have to deal with it alone and she pensively promises to do so. But then he also tells her that he really wished she had been there because there was something he said to Maya that he's been wanting to say to her as well, "I love you, both of you, and I can't imagine not having you both in my life." Cue the tears from both gals, kissing Josy, snuggling her closer and her falling asleep feeling happier. But that's just me, I'm a romantic, what can I say.

I also would have handled the MCs conversation with his dad differently, which foreshadowed all this and was my first cue we were in for a crisis with Josy. What I would have changed was what Neil had to say. There was no need to turn Neil into a rambling asshat. I've have done:

MC "Well, I have two girlfriends actually>"
Neil "Wait son... sooner or later one of them will find out and then people are going to get hurt."
MC "No, dad, the know... we're all together, they're... well... sharing me I guess."
Neil "You mean... oh... well... wow... I don't know what to say. I didn't expect that. And they're okay with that?"
MC "Yeah, it was kinda their idea in a way. They were... umm... well... already best friends and..."
Neil "And couldn't decide who saw you first, something like that?" <chuckles>
MC "Something like that. It was confusing at first and it almost didn't... you know... happen. But I care about them and they both cared about me and we just decided all of us together was what made sense. We could deny we all had... feelings."
Neil "You really care about both of them that much?"
MC "Yeah dad... a lot."
Neil "And they feel the same about you?"
MC "They do... at least, I mean they act like it."
Neil "Well, I guess congratulations then son. Look I wasn't expecting this and its not a path I ever went down. But, I've always told you to follow your heart and if this is where your heart has led you, then follow it."
MC <smiles>
Neil "But I'll add this... make sure you listen to their hearts too. Its not just you you have to think about now, take care of them if you really want this to work. Pay attention because a woman won't always tell you how she really feels, even the best of them. Sometimes you have to really listen to what they don't say to hear their heart and hear what they really are trying to tell you. That goes double I guess with two girlfriends. Whatever happens son, I've always believed in you, and I'll always be here for you.
MC "Thanks dad, you're right, we've... there have been problems and I wasn't always a good listener... I'm working on it."
Neil "You'll get there, like our sparing, keep working on it every day. So, when do I get to meet them?"
<Both laugh>

An there you go, makes the same point and does the same foreshadowing as the original but this time Neil is... surprised and uncertain, but still the cool dad. Can I get that edit please?

So yeah, some of it seemd like lazy writing.

In the Episode 4 flash back, Maya and Josy climb into their tent. Josy out of nowhere kisses Maya on the mouth, much to Maya's shock and surprise. She asks her why she did that, and Josy admits to feeling the sexual tension between them. Maya then gives in and they kiss passionately.

But yeah, the whole:

1. Episode 10 Maya/Josy hang out, so I will then
2. Go out with the same girl from before, and then I wlll
3. Go to sleep with the same girl from before.

Which is just neglectful, when you have Throuple. And you can neglect Maya, and Josy still goes wah.

And the scene with Neil becomes less than ideal.

I like the concept of them fumbling around for what they want. But they're all just idiots! Especially when MC should be the guy driving the boat.

And then there's Josy's wah moment which the MC and Maya wouldn've solved well before she started doing her own blog and spending so much time with herself. Just imagine if your own girlfriend started doing that and saying how lost she is...wtf? Are you paying attention?

Writing should be an idealized world, filled with conflict. An AVN should give you the freedom to explore that fantasy of whatever. Not set everything up for hamfisted silliness.

 

[Darkwen]

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He better stay away from my girl

 

[Better Cock Spock]

He better stay away from my girl

He will, all you have to do is cease and desist the use of the phrase "alady", destroy any images or videos that use "alady", and from now on the words "a" and "lady" must be at least seven words away from each other when used

 

[Darkwen]

"Gimmie that girl with the hair in a mess; Sleepy little smile with her head on my chest"
yes indeed give me that girl no one like Josy
Alady Alady Alady

 

[Macky009]

It makes me all warm and fuzzy inside
But her juicy titties and yummy pussy keep me focused

Those tits are a hige destruction to alot of people and those gaze makes us shiver. Those 2 things have opposite effect on you what kind of half vulcan are you if the half simp always take over

All that ass
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All that ass or Yoga girl???

For all those claiming that Zoey was a MG, or Quinn was a MG, and argued with me when I said there was only 5 MG and would only ever be 5 MG.

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Atleast it is confirm that even Lily can be your love interest in the story. It just so happen the 5 main are important to the cannon story. Anyway who was your number 2

 

[Darkwen]

He will, all you have to do is cease and desist the use of the phrase "alady", destroy any images or videos that use "alady", and from now on the words "a" and "lady" must be at least seven words away from each other when used

Not a snowball's chance in hell
Alady Alady

 

[MiltonPowers]

Atleast it is confirm that even Lily can be your love interest in the story. It just so happen the 5 main are important to the cannon story. Anyway who was your number 2

 

[soprano31]

"Gimmie that girl with the hair in a mess; Sleepy little smile with her head on my chest"
yes indeed give me that girl no one like Josy
Alady Alady Alady

 

[NadaMucho]

I always thought a Rio route would be nice. Her and the MC seem to have a little bond and it would drive Quinn absolutely insane. How dare someone show her servant that she has value.

 

[Better Cock Spock]

Those tits are a hige destruction to alot of people and those gaze makes us shiver. Those 2 things have opposite effect on you what kind of half vulcan are you if the half simp always take over

All that ass or Yoga girl???

I have a focused and disciplined mind. I just choose to simp a lot

Yes

Sleepy little smile with her head on my chest

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Not a snowball's chance in hell
Alady Alady

Mr. Nichols has the same lawyer as Mr. Jones

 

[Better Cock Spock]

I always thought a Rio route would be nice. Her and the MC seem to have a little bond and it was drive Quinn absolutely insane. How dare someone show her servant that she has value.

I don't think Quinn ever noticed or cared about MC+Rio

 

[Darkwen]

I have a focused and disciplined mind. I just choose to simp a lot
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Yes


Mr. Nichols has the same lawyer as Mr. Jones

they was singing about Josy

 

[NadaMucho]

I don't think Quinn ever noticed or cared about MC+Rio

True but I think she might if they really started something and she became less subservient. Sure that kind of already happened when Quinn got her tortured but if it was the MC facilitating the change... who knows?

 

[Darkwen]

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Alady Alady

 

[TuckeredOut]

they was singing about Josy

Aerosmith sings about "her" too

 

[Dabadim]

A yet to be unanswered mystery. How did the MC lose his incredible doom coom ability? In the early days he could screw endless hordes of thots, and now he's almost knocked out cold by a single nut. How the mighty have fallen.

Spoiler: MC at the start of the game

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[Darkwen]

Aerosmith sings about "her" too

just goes to show the world needs Josy