VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[soprano31]

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[Better Cock Spock]

A yet to be unanswered mystery. How did the MC lose his incredible doom coom ability? In the early days he could screw endless hordes of thots, and now he's almost knocked out cold by a single nut. How the mighty have fallen.

Spoiler: MC at the start of the game

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Lazy writing MC was fucked real good by Mel or Sarah—Mel fucked him so much better that he needed an hour to recharge

 

[Better Cock Spock]

True but I think she might if they really started something and she became less subservient. Sure that kind of already happened when Quinn got her tortured but if it was the MC facilitating the change... who knows?

It's a shame that MC and Rio's relationship didn't "officially"—not officially, of course, but where they were finally on the same page—start until the BBQ, so there's no time in-between that and her kidnapping And then he never contacts her the entire time she's "sick" unless Cammy brings it up or he learns the truth from Quinn

 

[NadaMucho]

It's a shame that MC and Rio's relationship didn't "officially"—not officially, of course, but where they were finally on the same page—start until the BBQ, so there's no time in-between that and her kidnapping And then he never contacts her the entire time she's "sick" unless Cammy brings it up or he learns the truth from Quinn

Hmm I swear I had a "Contact Rio" tasks during a free roam where you basically say you heard she was sick and hope she'd doing better. No reply from Rio of course.

Update: Maybe that task came up after talking to Cammy?
Update again: That's it. He visits Cammy during the "decorating for Christmas" free roam then the task appears.

 

[Dabadim]

Lazy writing MC was fucked real good by Mel or Sarah—Mel fucked him so much better that he needed an hour to recharge

Ah yes of course. It was a shame since it allowed for a lot of unintentional humor, especially if you chose to date a lot of girls. Sage in particular overlaps so much with Josy & Maya that i found myself thinking "damn you can't smell that he just screwed Sage's brains out huh?" while having a scene that's meant to be romantic and sweet.

Oh well. Pour one out for a legendary fallen coomer.

 

[Dabadim]

Update: Maybe that task came up after talking to Cammy?

Yep you get it from Cammy, and if you're doing a Quinn run i believe you get the option to send a text that directly concerns what happens after the MC is made aware of what actually happened to her.

 

[MiltonPowers]

Ah yes of course. It was a shame since it allowed for a lot of unintentional humor, especially if you chose to date a lot of girls. Sage in particular overlaps so much with Josy & Maya that i found myself thinking "damn you can't smell that he just screwed Sage's brains out huh?" while having a scene that's meant to be romantic and sweet.

Oh well. Pour one out for a legendary fallen coomer.

Well, not fallen yet.

He did go - Becky - Lily - Tiffani - Tara - Elena - back to back, without even a glass of water in between (if you wanted to).

That's pretty impressive.

 

[NadaMucho]

Yep you get it from Cammy, and if you're doing a Quinn run i believe you get the option to send a text that directly concerns what happens after the MC is made aware of what actually happened to her.

I've worked all the main girl plot lines in Ep. 11 but I don't think I was ever made aware of what actually happened to her. That being said I avoid anything Quinn related if possible now I'll have to go take a look. Thanks for the intel.

 

[FalconLover420]

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I gotta ask why is her butthole so pink LOL

 

[Dabadim]

Well not fallen yet.

He did go - Becky - Lily - Tiffani - Tara - Elena - back to back, without even a glass of water in between (if you wanted to).

That's pretty impressive.

TRUE (Also impressive of you to do Becky). I guess the MC can chose to activate his super doom coom hadouken abilities when he adorns a costume? Like a superhero blessed by the spirit of Johnny Sinns?

 

[MiltonPowers]

I gotta ask why is her butthole so pink LOL

It's actually red raw. Someone's been spelunking.

TRUE (Also impressive of you to do Becky).

I did Becky on my first playthrough. I had such high hopes for a great sex scene after her outstanding BJ. I was very disappointed.

I immediately rolled back, took it out of my playthrough and put Becky in the never to be touched pile with a certain Madame.

 

[Einarr the Red]

Well, there was that amazing run-cycle animation at the Thanksgiving party where she has a panic attack in the woods...

LOL... yeah there was that. I'd rather scenes with say... Zoey coming over and finding the MC hanging out in his bedroom with Josy and Maya (or who ever the LI is, I've only done one full serious play thru so far and that was the Josy/Maya path. I want to try Sage next because of what I've seen so far I really like her. Jill I... dunno yet, reserving opinion). Not a sexual scene, just... hanging out "oh hey Zoey... these are my GFs... this is Zoey we were best friends growing up." Zoey's reaction would have made for some good renders.

I can see it now... Josy being her bubbly friendly self happily greets Zoey and starts drawing her right in.
Maya joins in welcoming Zoey.
Zoey is feeling a mixture of repulsion and panic while looking for an exit but can't escape the charming gravitas that is Josy while Maya circles in for the group hug
Meanwhile the MC watchs and just smiles

I'm cracking up thinking about it. We were CHEATED! I want that scene now!

Short stories are the best form of experimenting on how to write. Never go into something big until you can figure it out in the smallest, most succinct way. Start with outlines, get your middle and ending, then fill in the blanks.

I appreciate the advice, its something I struggle with. I'm a natural born world builder, so its like that old Karl Sagan joke... to bake and apple pie from scratch, first you must create a universe. That's exactly what I do. I start by building my world, and then work from there. So I know where everything is and why it is. I can give you reams of history and back story. I know why the price of plums is what it is and why that's relevant to the the characters grandmothers favorite song. I over build. I do the same with characters, I write out whole back stories, sometimes I even give them made up stats, skill lists, etc like an RPG just to help me better visualize them.

So, that point where Josy doesn't know what skills she has? Oh no hun, here's your backstory, I have your skill list right here rated by how good you are at each... LOL I'm that bad. Go ahead an laugh, I am.

But the downside is I generate so much material and so many ideas its hard for me to prune it down, as you said, to its most succinct form. I REALLY gotta work on that more.

And now it looks like Josy/Zoey will become a second Zoey/Josy...

I am very sad at how right you probably are. I would happily give Zoey all ten $ out of his wallet to go BACK to the WC and disappear. I really wish she had been written differently and they'd worked through things more, it could have been some great story.

The system is essentially broken or useless. The scene with punching Patrick being the only close one lately. Which is useless, as Maya's problem with the contract is resolved anyway in Episode 11...great choices DPC!

Instead of being something like a Mass Effect Paragon/Neutral/Renegade system, it has now devolved into Neutral/Chick, as every path is now "be nice to your girl, including Sage and Quinn, even if you can't choose Chick"?

Agreed, I've kind of made something of it cause in all this and some other VNs I'm trying, I'm taking notes on what seems to work and what doesn't. Or in once case, what could have worked but the way it was done was a disaster; looking at you "The Roommate" with your daily event planner.

Right. The CHICK Bella and Jill seems proper. The DIK Sage and Quinn seems proper. But now it's all Neutral/Chick, and even your attitude can be permanent (which means what now?) He either changes the system up, or it's going to keep being "be nice to your GF".

I'm fine with being nice to your GF... I am in RL... hell I'm a hopeless poetry spouting romantic. But, with everything tied to that, you have to be nice to everyone... and that I am not. In RL, I can be the biggest asshole you ever met if pissed off or crossed... I grew up around bikers, it... affected me. But if I'm serious about a gal, I'm protective, caring, sweet, giant teddy bear of a guy. Everyone else can fukkin piss off.

This is what repeatedly bugged me. The MC can't choose to be really nice to some people and a massive dick to others, in the end you're either one or the other... it kills the nuance. I wouldn't want him to be a massive dick to most of the DIKs (maybe Tommy, Tommy deserves it and also seems to kinda respect it). Why can't you be a nice guy to your friends and a nightmare to anybody dumb enough to make an enemy of you? So yeah, the current system is broken, makes the MC seem shallower and forces me into min/maxing instead of letting my choices be more organic as I role play the MC.

The Magnar reveal at the end is just silly.

Yeah, and it doesn't fit the rest of the story IMHO. I'm having visions of Magnar being dragged off to a mental institute in a straight jacket while screaming they can't do that to him because he's the Dungeon Master and he makes all the rules! Which gives me flash backs to my younger days playing D&D right about the time Mazes & Monsters with Tom Hanks came out and my parents went ape shit over it.

Kurt Vonnegut is famous for saying he never uses mystery, and instead just reveals whatever the interesting idea is first, and then goes from there. Showing us Magnar is some mastermind is a waste of exposition. Oh great, another fight with the Tri-Alphas, while the audience knows more than the characters...same with the magical Bella door being unlocked. It's getting old and dragged out.

No argument from me.

Appreciated the vote of confidence on me tackling a VN. I'm still more than a bit unsure about it. I have a story started, a setting, some character outlines and some general ideas of a middle and an end but that's as far as I've gotten. I know I've still got some 3D skills I need to work on, I need to learn to use soft body physics (most people call em jiggle physics) in Blender with characters and I need to learn more about working with characters in Blender, which I've done very little of. Most of my experience has been with scenery, architecture, furniture, props, etc.

 

[Better Cock Spock]

Well, not fallen yet.

He did go - Becky - Lily - Tiffani - Tara - Elena - back to back, without even a glass of water in between (if you wanted to).

That's pretty impressive.

I did Becky on my first playthrough. I had such high hopes for a great sex scene after her outstanding BJ. I was very disappointed.

I immediately rolled back, took it out of my playthrough and put Becky in the never to be touched pile with a certain Madame.

The dick rot you get from fucking that brown-haired chick

 

[Dabadim]

I had such high hopes for a great sex scene after her outstanding BJ. I was very disappointed.

Yeah that scene is a doomed save for me. Becky is also symptomatic of the whole character model change thing that happened, she looked like a smoke show at the HOTs party, and then she just crashes hard and becomes a comic relief character. Rio has had a lot of change. So has my dear smurf. Wonder what's up with that.

 

[Better Cock Spock]

Hmm I swear I had a "Contact Rio" tasks during a free roam where you basically say you heard she was sick and hope she'd doing better. No reply from Rio of course.

Update: Maybe that task came up after talking to Cammy?
Update again: That's it. He visits Cammy during the "decorating for Christmas" free roam then the task appears.

That's what I mean though, MC never takes the initiative to text her, Cammy has to bring it up for it to even occur to him. But unfortunately that's a gameplay limitation, since this is also the first episode we get to text Cammy, Mel and Sarah

But I was hoping for a something similar to Episode 9, because MC and Zoey have a lot of chat history on his phone to indicate they've started talking again after the park bench scene. If we had that with Rio, even if only on her path, I would've loved that. She doesn't even have to respond, it could just be a bunch of "hey I miss you" type texts. But instead it's absolutely nothing, and only optional

 

[Einarr the Red]

I like the concept of them fumbling around for what they want. But they're all just idiots! Especially when MC should be the guy driving the boat.

AAAAAMEN... AAAAAMEN... AAAAAAAMEN, amen, amen... preach it sister woman!

What... I grew up in the South.

And then there's Josy's wah moment which the MC and Maya wouldn've solved well before she started doing her own blog and spending so much time with herself. Just imagine if your own girlfriend started doing that and saying how lost she is...wtf? Are you paying attention?

Yup, what frustrates me is that no matter how hard I try to have the MC be a safe place for both Maya and Josy, its like they don't get it. Maya is finally seeming to come around after all the Thanksgiving stuff and that makes sense. It made sense to me why Maya pulled away, she's got some serious baggage. But Josy, no, Josy needs people for her to isolate for that long and worse for neither of her lovers to do anything about it... that's fucked up. If felt like DPC was very arbitrarily scripting in another crisis just for the sake of having crisis and in doing so, came at the cost of good story IMHO.

Then on top of that Maya and Josy don't go to the MCs Christmas party, but they DO go to the Tri-alphas and there isn't so much as a txt message asking the MC if he's okay with either. Um... step up and support you guy ladies... kay? Cause going to party with his mortal enemies is just... fuckin cold, especially after not showing up at his party and he had to leave his party to go to a party with them (apparently just we can have a pseudo harem scene that I neither wanted no asked for).

Sage, even just as fuck buddies got it... Sage was already the MC's GF long before Crossroads, hell, I'd go so far as to say she was already in love with the MC. I wish I had a screen shot of it, but its the moment they're at the HOTs party and they go outside, this is after the MC said something about not wanting to be "rebound guy". Sage looks at him and tells him he's not her rebound guy, that she will wait for him for as long as it takes for him to come around. Ladies and gents, in my humble experience of 56 years living on this Earth... anytime a woman looks at you and says something like that... it doesn't matter if she insists you're just fuck buddies, or if she denies she's your GF, or if she denies she's in love with you... her heart just told you... she's in love with you. I loved that scene and that scene alone could have sold me on Sage as a great LI.

Writing should be an idealized world, filled with conflict. An AVN should give you the freedom to explore that fantasy of whatever. Not set everything up for hamfisted silliness.

Que hymnals... ^^^^^^^ THIS

 

[Einarr the Red]

I always thought a Rio route would be nice. Her and the MC seem to have a little bond and it would drive Quinn absolutely insane. How dare someone show her servant that she has value.

During Hell Week during the preppy mansion run there's a scene where the MC finds Rio outside and they talk and there's an option to give her money. This only has purpose if the MC previously did some other lewd scene with her, which I did not. Other than that, you're just wasting money.

I wish that had had an alternate where with no prior lewd scene if you were just a nice guy and gave her money to help her out she'd react to that and that could become the foundation for a friendship or more, and her beginning to see the MC as a nice guy (something she does later on and says so). Especially if you try to give her $$$$$ and she rejects that as being too much, and tries not to accept it with the whole "why are you being so nice to me, what do you want" bit which would be in character for her... and then puzzlement when the MC says he doesn't want anything. Something like that would have been a nice touch there.

 

[FalconLover420]

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The dick rot you get from fucking that brown-haired chick

She may have STDS but her throat game tho is another story

 

[Better Cock Spock]

I gotta ask why is her butthole so pink LOL

Pretty and pink

Yum yum bubble gum

 

[Macky009]

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I thought your number 2 will be Rio or Mona I did not expect it to be Cinderella. It never occur to me that you and Spock are rivals. You can have my title of Mr. Teddy Bear from now on

By the way I did not expect Micah and Penny to be on your wall