VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Derek in a Bush]

One branch's information is another branch's misinformation

Interesting statement

 

[Julius Kingsley]

Guys is there any recommendations for what order i should do the routes in season 3? M mainly interested in Josy,Sage,Quinn,lily and Jill.. Any ideas will be appreciated

 

[Derek in a Bush]

Guys is there any recommendations for what order i should do the routes in season 3? M mainly interested in Josy,Sage,Quinn,lily and Jill.. Any ideas will be appreciated

doesn’t mater

 

[Julius Kingsley]

doesn’t mater

So it's all same content besides the lewd scenes or what?

 

[Darkwen]

Guys is there any recommendations for what order i should do the routes in season 3? M mainly interested in Josy,Sage,Quinn,lily and Jill.. Any ideas will be appreciated

Go with Josy can't go wrong

 

[dalli_x]

When questions relate to the mechanics of the game or aspects of his work, he fools around with people asking such questions.

Each variable (well, almost) leads to something or affects something. Otherwise, it makes no sense to keep and save it. There are temporary variables that are discarded and no longer used (as an example, variables from 1-2 that were discarded after exporting to season 3). And there're more or less longterm ones.

The problem with his answer to this particular question is that he's being blatantly disingenuous and not telling important things at all.

When you create an episode, write scenes (dialogues and code for them), you put variables here and there. You, as creator, immediately understand and know in advance the meaning of each decision and its consequences (or at least plan it) and the possibility of somehow preserving/verifying/transforming them by combining several variables when time come. If a variable is saved during making some choice/decision, then later (in this or next episodes) it will be used somehow (90%).

Also, I will never believe that he reads the code (literally, with his eyes) of previous episodes and seasons, just to find some variable he wants or thinks of. It would be possible for some small game, but not for a project that he has been working on for the 6th year, which has 11 episodes and 3 seasons. If even an ordinary player can pull out and systematize all these variables from the game files and code (which is not protected in any way) and even make a kind of dependency tree from those. Considering it all, you really believe that author of the game manually looks through the old code several times a day to dig up something and does not have a banal list of his game/code variables? Well It's just naive.

Note that he never fully and thoroughly answers technical questions or those that at least minimally relate to his work, or rather how it is organized. Otherwise, there are no secrets here, without structured schemas, lists of variables and other things, it is impossible to work on such a huge project. This both makes no sense, because at first, it significantly reduces productivity, and for second, it's simply impossible due to the size of this project. And DPC constantly reminds us that his workflow is optimized as much as possible. Optimizing and manually digging through the code to find something are not very compatible things, right?

So I don't know why you mentioned me and what you wanted to hint at with this quote. You tried to convince me before that variables are not that important and that DPC may/can change anything anytime. Both in public and in private. I still will say and insist that variables are the most important part of game mechanics, especially AVNs/RenPy games and any other game on any other engine where your (player) decisions really matter and lead to consequences. Bc, they have to be tracked somehow. And like you it or not, it's only possible through saving the variables, for now. You won't change anything in the past episodes, seasons, etc, until you release the patch. And the only thing(s) he had changed so far in S3 was the obvious errors in the code and/or variables handling. Like counting correctly the Quinn scene during CUM-petition in J&M branch. He even didn't change any variable, he changed how scenes counted. He didn't made it intentionally, it was a banal error from him, which he corrected with a bunch of other errors here and there. I mentioning this, since it was your favorite example intended to convince me god knows what for.

So you think DPC (Pink, he likes being called that) is deliberately lying in his Q&As. What you wrote cannot, may not, and should not be answered.

I think Zoey's ending is confirmed. DPC said the side girls could be LI, so there will be other options. Quinn, Lily, Riona, and Nicole have come too far for their stories to end in nothing.

I'll be very disappointed if you're right. The same events should give the same result no matter how you play, otherwise common sense will be destroyed.

DPC (Pink) wrote that the side girls could be LIs, but aren't.

That's exactly why I'm only playing one branch, and when BaDIK is finished in a few years, I'll play through another one, and then another one after that. Worth replaying.

The problem is they never actually do what they talk about, 5,8,9 and now 11 Josy and Maya talk about communication yet they 0 for 3. They didn't say but lets wait after the party to start it like they just forgot everything they just said. Josy made it pretty clear she not feeling the love she used to have for Maya there relationship is in such a bad place at least they talk about there feelings. Maybe a mc that hasn't said I love you yet could save it save it or date both but favoring and a I love you going one way

Believe me, Josy still loves Maya, and Maya still loves Josy. The only problem is, before EP11, Maya made Josy feel needed, and Josy loses that feeling in EP11 because Maya has her situation under control and has become more confident. Josy is afraid, and she expressed this fear in EP5. She's afraid of losing both Maya and the MC.

That's exactly why it's so important for the MC to tell Josy he loves her in EP11. Maya doesn't know anything about Josy's blog in EP11, but that will likely change in EP12. I'm assuming Maya will support Josy with her blog. This could rekindle their love for each other.

 

[Derek in a Bush]

That's exactly why it's so important for the MC to tell Josy he loves her in EP11. Maya doesn't know anything about Josy's blog in EP11, but that will likely change in EP12. I'm assuming Maya will support Josy with her blog. This could rekindle their love for each other.

Dude wow, amazing theories

 

[Chillout1984]

So it's all same content besides the lewd scenes or what?

You get more info onspecific routes, but we don't know yet what the effect will be in ep 12.

Fot example MC only learns what really happened to Riona when on the Quinn route

 

[BigTTiger]

Guys is there any recommendations for what order i should do the routes in season 3? M mainly interested in Josy,Sage,Quinn,lily and Jill.. Any ideas will be appreciated

Just pick one and go from there you're going to play all of them anyway so just flip a coin or draw a name from a hat etc.

 

[BigTTiger]

So you think DPC (Pink, he likes being called that) is deliberately lying in his Q&As. What you wrote cannot, may not, and should not be answered.

DPC (Pink) wrote that the side girls could be LIs, but aren't.

That's exactly why I'm only playing one branch, and when BaDIK is finished in a few years, I'll play through another one, and then another one after that. Worth replaying.

Believe me, Josy still loves Maya, and Maya still loves Josy. The only problem is, before EP11, Maya made Josy feel needed, and Josy loses that feeling in EP11 because Maya has her situation under control and has become more confident. Josy is afraid, and she expressed this fear in EP5. She's afraid of losing both Maya and the MC.

That's exactly why it's so important for the MC to tell Josy he loves her in EP11. Maya doesn't know anything about Josy's blog in EP11, but that will likely change in EP12. I'm assuming Maya will support Josy with her blog. This could rekindle their love for each other.

Ok MC tells Josy he loves her but then you can't do the same for Maya in same playthrough you have to do a separate pt which kinda means no more throuple or save the ILY for later down the road and say it both of em

 

[Moni23]

DPC (Pink) wrote that the side girls could be LIs, but aren't.

I don't understand why you deny the obvious. In episode 11, the player can start a relationship with Zoe, she is confirmed as LI. Lily has had great romantic development, and LI status is now inevitable for her.

 

[Derek in a Bush]

I don't understand why you deny the obvious. In episode 11, the player can start a relationship with Zoe, she is confirmed as LI. Lily has had great romantic development, and LI status is now inevitable for her.

Not entirely true, Lilly can always reject MC after being gentle because she doesn’t want that kind of relationship ( probably doesn’t happen but there is still a big possibility that Lilly’s status will change) and also lily was a fan favorite so I guess it’s DPC pandering to the Audience. Zoey has always been a LI as she is MC ex, the path is only just now beginning

 

[Darkwen]

Believe me, Josy still loves Maya, and Maya still loves Josy. The only problem is, before EP11, Maya made Josy feel needed, and Josy loses that feeling in EP11 because Maya has her situation under control and has become more confident. Josy is afraid, and she expressed this fear in EP5. She's afraid of losing both Maya and the MC.

That's exactly why it's so important for the MC to tell Josy he loves her in EP11. Maya doesn't know anything about Josy's blog in EP11, but that will likely change in EP12. I'm assuming Maya will support Josy with her blog. This could rekindle their love for each other.

Josy admits that love she used to have for Maya could be gone "But I can't say how I feel about you anymore. And I don't understand why". Josy in love with Mc that she know 100% with Maya those feelings are gone, she loves her like a friend. Maybe there a way to save it since there is a choice not to say I love you yet but personally think it more likely gives a dating both girls but that don't mean it can't be save on a more balance path.
Since in ep4 MC makes his choice within the ep the girls will do the same here rather come realize there relationship as lovers is over or it keep going. Considering in 11eps things don't get better for them I find it hard to believe this will be any different. I can be wrong and maybe there is a chance it could be save I just don't have faith in that

 

[Derek in a Bush]

Josy admits that love she used to have for Maya could be gone "But I can't say how I feel about you anymore. And I don't understand why". Josy in love with Mc that she know 100% with Maya those feelings are gone, she loves her like a friend. Maybe there a way to save it since there is a choice not to say I love you yet but personally think it more likely gives a dating both girls but that don't mean it can't be save on a more balance path.
Since in ep4 MC makes his choice within the ep the girls will do the same here rather come realize there relationship as lovers is over or it keep going. Considering in 11eps things don't get better for them I find it hard to believe this will be any different. I can be wrong and maybe there is a chance it could be save I just don't have faith in that

DPC will write “theouple saved” and throuple “broke up” routes. The throuple is around for so long, big part of the fanbase will not be satisfied with a canon breaking of trhouple, I think it depends on choices etc etc etc. Yall seem to forget that this man LOVES branching, so we”ll get a Josy branch, a Maya Branch a Trouple will prevail brand and maybe even other variations where MC and Josy become a couple but maya is still around and vice versa

 

[Julius Kingsley]

Just pick one and go from there you're going to play all of them anyway so just flip a coin or draw a name from a hat etc.

I would like to start with the one with most content and has Quinn in it

 

[Derek in a Bush]

I would like to start with the one with most content and has Quinn in it

DIK Sage or others

 

[Darkwen]

DPC will write “theouple saved” and throuple “broke up” routes. The throuple is around for so long, big part of the fanbase will not be satisfied with a canon breaking of trhouple, I think it depends on choices etc etc etc. Yall seem to forget that this man LOVES branching, so well get a Josy branch, a Maya Branch a Trouple will prevail brand and maybe even other variations where MC and Josy become a couple but maya is still around and vice versa

there can even be one where the girls break with MC. It would upset a lot people if once a again DPC doesn't let you get both girls. The I don't stay it yet choice matters a lot if there anything that should give the throuple hope it that because there got to be another shot at saying I love you the only question is what it looks like

 

[NadaMucho]

Of course it's all just speculation and interpretation but it seems to me that Maya and Josy's relationship was broken before the MC even came into the picture. It's never seemed (to me) like anything other than an old car you try to keep running out of nostalgia. The way I read it Josy's been into the MC since the summer job and her feelings only get stronger. It's always looked to me like her head was turned in his direction and away from Maya. Go all the way to the pillow fort and through to the snow day and she pretty much states it out loud that he's her choice and him alone. A couple. Not a throuple.

No shade or arguments. Just my perspective.

 

[_jim_johnson]

DIK Sage or others

Yep

Provided you steer clear of a few pitfalls you will even get some Bella content on that route.

 

[dalli_x]

Ok MC tells Josy he loves her but then you can't do the same for Maya in same playthrough you have to do a separate pt which kinda means no more throuple or save the ILY for later down the road and say it both of em

Maya already knows that the MC loves her. He didn't tell Maya, but there was a heart emoji between the two. EP4, follow your heart.

The problem actually lies in the fact that you can only give your heart to one person. Therefore, there must be another way, and there is. The three hearts of Josy, Maya, and the MC must merge into one heart.

I don't understand why you deny the obvious. In episode 11, the player can start a relationship with Zoe, she is confirmed as LI. Lily has had great romantic development, and LI status is now inevitable for her.

I'm just reporting what I read from DPC (Pink).

Not entirely true, Lilly can always reject MC after being gentle because she doesn’t want that kind of relationship ( probably doesn’t happen but there is still a big possibility that Lilly’s status will change) and also lily was a fan favorite so I guess it’s DPC pandering to the Audience. Zoey has always been a LI as she is MC ex, the path is only just now beginning

I don't think it's so that Lily is or was the MC's ex. I can very well imagine it's so that Lily was with a possible brother of the MC.

Josy admits that love she used to have for Maya could be gone "But I can't say how I feel about you anymore. And I don't understand why". Josy in love with Mc that she know 100% with Maya those feelings are gone, she loves her like a friend. Maybe there a way to save it since there is a choice not to say I love you yet but personally think it more likely gives a dating both girls but that don't mean it can't be save on a more balance path.
Since in ep4 MC makes his choice within the ep the girls will do the same here rather come realize there relationship as lovers is over or it keep going. Considering in 11eps things don't get better for them I find it hard to believe this will be any different. I can be wrong and maybe there is a chance it could be save I just don't have faith in that

I'm not denying it's so that Josy loves the MC, but Josy doesn't say it's so that she doesn't love Maya anymore. She just doesn't know how she feels about Maya, and there are reasons for that. Maya has changed a lot, and Josy first needs to sort out her feelings for the changed Maya. Josy only knows the frightened Maya, and now Maya is free from her father and blossoming. Before, Maya was afraid of not being able to keep up, and now Josy has this fear. That's why it's so important for the MC to show Josy and say that he loves her.

It's basically the same as between Zoey and the MC. Both Zoey and the MC have changed. They haven't communicated with each other for a long time. Zoey realizes that she loves the MC, but she can't really keep up with the MC anymore.