mike12013

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I always feel like hatred for certain characters stems from the very real dilemma of whether anyone is truly redeemable or not. We have our first impressions of these characters, most players have a limit on paths tried/taken in this game, and then there is an overreliance of the skip function when playing multiple playthroughs. Some players form opinions of characters from their limited playthroughs and never see any other side to those characters (Jill, Maya, etc). Some already believe that certain characters are complete trash (Quinn, Nick, etc.) The true brilliance of this AVN or any good story (when it works) is that there are multi-facets to just about all of the characters. If you play enough paths you can usually see a different side to most characters (Fuck Dawe!) But, at the end of the day, this only continues to hold traction if 1) DPC continues to write interesting, multi-layered characters (including redemption arcs) and sticks the landing, and 2) enough players are willing to give those characters and paths a chance in the first place. Because, if you aren't first willing to listen to someone else's side of the story and/or don't believe people can ever change (or at least deserve a chance to attempt to) then you are always going to play the story paths the same way and finish the story with a very narrow view of all the variable details and emotional nuances. Branch out, try new things! (DPC, you can send that check anytime, thanks!) :Kappa:
i also think when you picked up the game plays apart in it. I picked this up for the first time in December, played Chapter 1-9 in one 12-13 hour sitting, then finished Chapter 10 a couple hours later, so I seen a lot of character arcs for the first time in one sitting. I didn't see Maya (as an example, she's my 2nd favourite LI) moaning about something at the end of a chapter, then spend 8 months sitting on that perception of her until the next one.

For example, from what I can tell Sage got a lot of shit (rightly or wrongly) after Episode 9 for being shallow and blowing up when MC asks her mid-sex about her traumas, people then had to wait a year with that perception of her. By the time Ep10 came out, a years worth of perception is tough to forget, but Ep10 ended up being one of her stronger episodes for me.
 
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Unless you like dead fish, it should be his fourth and last :ROFLMAO:

Joshy's dream ;)

It's the same episode, DPC is just a master of consistency.

Did I say "master"? I meant "moron" :HideThePain:

Yeah because she eats the others :KEK:
Sorry I meant earlier scene not episode

Still the second dumbest thing of the episode, having to choose between them.
Agreed its dumb but what was the first?


Throuple straight from the ninth circle of hell
Madame Rose, Jade, & MC would be worse
 

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Got to say, Josy with the single ponytail or her hair down looks so much better than the double knot she's had for a while. I think her best look in the entire game is the dinner at the Burke's
 
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Agreed its dumb but what was the first?
The dumbest thing is having to choose between the party at Bella's and the real party. It's just such a weird decision. It means that, with the exception of cheat runs, you are going to miss half of the party on all MG runs, which is dumb.
a) From a dev point it's dumb, because the party clearly took a lot of dev time, and now a lot of it goes unseen during the majority of runs.
b) From a fun point it's dumb, because in my opinion, the parties are some of the best parts of this game. Great music, great atmosphere, lots of characters to talk to, lots of fun interactions. I don't want to miss part of that, but if I'm doing, let's say, a Sage run, I have to, because I'm not missing the ily scene, am I? (on the same note, making that and the Cammy threesome mutually exclusive is a fucking crime)
c) From an ingame point it's dumb. MC cares a lot about the frat, he cares a lot about the parties, and this is the first one he planned on his own. And now he has to miss half of it because his girlfriend(s) and friends have to do an alternative event THE SAME FUCKING EVENING?!? Great friends those are! They should get their asses over to the party. Bella not being there - fine, 100% understandable, didn't expect her to. But everyone else? Sage should have been there on any path, so should Josy and Maya. And so should Jill, atleast if you are on her path. "Too shy" is not an excuse, since she blows MC in a bloody fitting room. And if Sally and even KRJ can manage being there in underwear, so can Jill.
There is just no fucking reason for these events to happen at the same time. Bella's thing should have been on a different day, and the main girls sans Bella should have been at the party, which would have made it even better. Imagine the cucumber event with, let's say, Josy. That would have super hot, and a perfect tease for an even hotter scene after the party. But instead we get to abandon her or Maya alone on a couch while cuddling the other. Faaaaantastic.
There are a bunch of stupid choices between two scenes in Ep11 (Sarah or Mel, Cammy + Sage or ily), but having to choose between the party and the hangout at Bella's easily takes the cake.
 

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The dumbest thing is having to choose between the party at Bella's and the real party. It's just such a weird decision. It means that, with the exception of cheat runs, you are going to miss half of the party on all MG runs, which is dumb.
a) From a dev point it's dumb, because the party clearly took a lot of dev time, and now a lot of it goes unseen during the majority of runs.
b) From a fun point it's dumb, because in my opinion, the parties are some of the best parts of this game. Great music, great atmosphere, lots of characters to talk to, lots of fun interactions. I don't want to miss part of that, but if I'm doing, let's say, a Sage run, I have to, because I'm not missing the ily scene, am I? (on the same note, making that and the Cammy threesome mutually exclusive is a fucking crime)
c) From an ingame point it's dumb. MC cares a lot about the frat, he cares a lot about the parties, and this is the first one he planned on his own. And now he has to miss half of it because his girlfriend(s) and friends have to do an alternative event THE SAME FUCKING EVENING?!? Great friends those are! They should get their asses over to the party. Bella not being there - fine, 100% understandable, didn't expect her to. But everyone else? Sage should have been there on any path, so should Josy and Maya. And so should Jill, atleast if you are on her path. "Too shy" is not an excuse, since she blows MC in a bloody fitting room. And if Sally and even KRJ can manage being there in underwear, so can Jill.
There is just no fucking reason for these events to happen at the same time. Bella's thing should have been on a different day, and the main girls sans Bella should have been at the party, which would have made it even better. Imagine the cucumber event with, let's say, Josy. That would have super hot, and a perfect tease for an even hotter scene after the party. But instead we get to abandon her or Maya alone on a couch while cuddling the other. Faaaaantastic.
There are a bunch of stupid choices between two scenes in Ep11 (Sarah or Mel, Cammy + Sage or ily), but having to choose between the party and the hangout at Bella's easily takes the cake.
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But then what do you do about Bella? This is one of the flaws of the party planning minigame, its existence demands that there be a big party and that means Bella can't go (the exception being Halloween). So either MC leaves the panty party (like with the BBQ) or Bella is left in the proverbial cold, and that is unacceptable. And then this problem will come up again in Episode 12 with New Years or whatever the next big party will be.
Or uses her full name. Mrs. Big Bull Alady. :)
No joke, that was my first choice :ROFLMAO:
 
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