VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Craysser]

Ooof...a lot of people will disagree, but either Bella or Quinn.

is quinn even possible? i mean, assuming that the original comment question was about MC chosing only one girl and being loyal to it. Wouldnt that mean MC would miss triggers required to stack points for Quinn to get to real meat and potatoes of this route?
Like, can you unlock all the scenes with quinn without using restaurant? and wouldnt using restaurant destroy the premise of the question? do threesome still count as acceptable for the question? XD

 

[grarg]

Ooof...a lot of people will disagree, but either Bella or Quinn.
These two need MC the most. One literally says that MC is the beam of light in her life that helps her stay sane.
Second one's gotten so used to being always on her own and out for herself that she's simply thinking that there's no way back while MC's the one who could convince her that it's not true and that she can figure shit out without dragging herself lower and lower.

Jill's probably close #3 since her path is just classic vanilla power couple.

Maya and Josy have each other. Sage will never have any problems finding someone for her.

Now, when we move to secondary batch - things get harder. Riona will have Camilla as her bestie. Sara never was interesting for me. Same applies to Melanie.
Jade said already that she doesn't need anything from MC. Cathy's more about fucking only, too.
Nicole the stripper has the kid which makes everything way harder. Nora will find men attention easily without MC.
Lilly still seems to pack too much heat behind her.

Either Bianca post-breakup with her guy or Tara post Oscar, I guess=\

That is an interesting criteria. MC as therapist or emotional dependency, for help and change?

While Bella sees the MC as a breath of fresh air, she'd go on with her life being a statue, which she's doing anyway if you choose Jill over her, or ignore them both. Basically an angry nun. Bella needs to come to terms with her husband before any kind of growth happens, regardless of being in a relationship. Feeling like she's 18 is just a nice perk.

Quinn and Lily would still have their outlook until someone else came around. Quinn needs all kinds of help, and Lily needs to trust someone, which she'll get after she grows out of college.

Jill is a big, cuddly kitten. But she'll grow up fast enough. MC just helped her along.

Sage is fine.

Maya would still go into social service work, and her and Derek would deal with their family regardless of the MC's involvement. MC has been a good friend to the two, but they'd be fine without him.

And as we know, no relationships, no logic, no divine intervention of therapeutic dessert...no mountain will help Josy. She'll still have her existential crisis regardless.

All the other ladies don't need the MC to grow or change for the better. He's got magic MC powers, which makes everything and everyone better. Though i wonder if the Episode 11 new family would form without him.

 

[Better Cock Spock]

for now they do but that looks to be changing soon.

Bella and Quinn I never thought of as needing MC but he is very helpful to him so they on the list

Did you forget their last night together in Episode 10

is quinn even possible? i mean, assuming that the original comment question was about MC chosing only one girl and being loyal to it. Wouldnt that mean MC would miss triggers required to stack points for Quinn to get to real meat and potatoes of this route?
Like, can you unlock all the scenes with quinn without using restaurant? and wouldnt using restaurant destroy the premise of the question? do threesome still count as acceptable for the question? XD

The restaurant is not required for Quinn's path.

 

[Joker500]

It worked.. . Another question... How to establish a "MILF - sister - brother - son" relationship???

You can't in this game. It doesn't have incest due to how the story was written.

 

[Darkwen]

Did you forget their last night together in Episode 10

The restaurant is not required for Quinn's path.

You mean the ep where Maya says she more comfortable with MC then Josy( add that only if you go to maya but seems reasonable to think Maya feels the same either way)
The tag team scene was really good but they only happy when with the MC

 

[Better Cock Spock]

You mean the ep where Maya says she more comfortable with MC then Josy( add that only if you go to maya but seems reasonable to think Maya feels the same either way)
The tag team scene was really good but they only happy when with the MC

No I meant for Bella, where MC leaves the BBQ to be with her, and she tells him about how MC keeps her from drowning.

 

[Darkwen]

No I meant for Bella, where MC leaves the BBQ to be with her, and she tells him about how MC keeps her from drowning.

ohhh, I haven't seen that

 

[Better Cock Spock]

ohhh, I haven't seen that

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[El_Magnifico]

All the other ladies don't need the MC to grow or change for the better. He's got magic MC powers, which makes everything and everyone better.

Does he ?

 

[Better Cock Spock]

Does he ?

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He made Stephen's life better, so yes

 

[treechild1]

I always feel like hatred for certain characters stems from the very real dilemma of whether anyone is truly redeemable or not. We have our first impressions of these characters, most players have a limit on paths tried/taken in this game, and then there is an overreliance of the skip function when playing multiple playthroughs. Some players form opinions of characters from their limited playthroughs and never see any other side to those characters (Jill, Maya, etc). Some already believe that certain characters are complete trash (Quinn, Nick, etc.) The true brilliance of this AVN or any good story (when it works) is that there are multi-facets to just about all of the characters. If you play enough paths you can usually see a different side to most characters (Fuck Dawe!) But, at the end of the day, this only continues to hold traction if 1) DPC continues to write interesting, multi-layered characters (including redemption arcs) and sticks the landing, and 2) enough players are willing to give those characters and paths a chance in the first place. Because, if you aren't first willing to listen to someone else's side of the story and/or don't believe people can ever change (or at least deserve a chance to attempt to) then you are always going to play the story paths the same way and finish the story with a very narrow view of all the variable details and emotional nuances. Branch out, try new things! (DPC, you can send that check anytime, thanks!)

 

[Better Cock Spock]

I always feel like hatred for certain characters stems from the very real dilemma of whether anyone is truly redeemable or not. We have our first impressions of these characters, most players have a limit on paths tried/taken in this game, and then there is an overreliance of the skip function when playing multiple playthroughs. Some players form opinions of characters from their limited playthroughs and never see any other side to those characters (Jill, Maya, etc). Some already believe that certain characters are complete trash (Quinn, Nick, etc.) The true brilliance of this AVN or any good story (when it works) is that there are multi-facets to just about all of the characters. If you play enough paths you can usually see a different side to most characters (Fuck Dawe!) But, at the end of the day, this only continues to hold traction if 1) DPC continues to write interesting, multi-layered characters (including redemption arcs) and sticks the landing, and 2) enough players are willing to give those characters and paths a chance in the first place. Because, if you aren't first willing to listen to someone else's side of the story and/or don't believe people can ever change (or at least deserve a chance to attempt to) then you are always going to play the story paths the same way and finish the story with a very narrow view of all the variable details and emotional nuances. Branch out, try new things! (DPC, you can send that check anytime, thanks!)

But Nick IS trash

 

[treechild1]

But Nick IS trash

It’s hard to argue with you on that one. Maybe… he will have a redemption arc?! The real question is, how many people care or actually want one for Nick? Not many, I suspect.

 

[El_Magnifico]

Some players form opinions of characters from their limited playthroughs and never see any other side to those characters

 

[Better Cock Spock]

It’s hard to argue with you on that one. Maybe… he will have a redemption arc?! The real question is, how many people care or actually want one for Nick? Not many, I suspect.

He could have some sort of redemption arc, especially since he probably isn't behind the Cathy Cluck. But no one will ever trust him again.

 

[ScrewMe]

Some already believe that certain characters are complete trash (Quinn, Nick, etc.) The true brilliance of this AVN or any good story (when it works) is that there are multi-facets to just about all of the characters. If you play enough paths you can usually see a different side to most characters (Fuck Dawe!)

100%. For first 2 seasons on full-on Chick route Quinn was as close to female antagonist as one can be(she's nowhere near Leah though). But if you play neutral(sorry, but I simply can't associate myself with full-on DIK route), she's more of a relativistic tragic figure.
Someone probably said this but whole Magnar-nerds subplot reminds me too much of a "Bully". When I've seen PrepRel/JockRel counters I knew we'll end up with something like it. Still though, I can't see him in antagonistic light - it's more of a comic relief to me.
Obviously, Chad's secret will be discovered by Alphas. It's actually interesting what will they end up doing.
Caleb is an obvious BaDIK's Goro. MC whooping his ass at some point will probably affect powerplay within Jocks.
And while Caleb is this game's Goro, Vinnie's an obvious Shao Kahn. DPC writes him as disgusting as he can be. Everyone that MC had clashes with had reasons for it and redeeming qualities. Vinnie's just chaotic dude. Although, imo, he appears way too rarely. I hope that DPC won't mess up the build-up towards that clash cause so far I can't take that dude seriously.

Nick

I still think that Nick is red herring in all of this and MC's take on him may be pivotal at some point. Like, if MC ends up fighting Vinny and Nick's the one who has to take sides.
That brings up another thing: if MC's take on Nick is important, then why is there one for Tara? One could say that it's only for this episode and to enable DIK/CHICK choices on neutral path when it comes down to dorm girls.
But why overcomplicate things when you can simply give MC few interactions with her without points and let player make only one decision - to Invite her or not?
Maybe it's just DPC playing with us, but MC being cruel/understanding to her may have significance too.

At the end of the day, it seems like there will be some kind of trial where relationships with other fraternities and their key figures will play pivotal role.

 

[Maccabbee]

100%. For first 2 seasons on full-on Chick route Quinn was as close to female antagonist as one can be(she's nowhere near Leah though). But if you play neutral(sorry, but I simply can't associate myself with full-on DIK route).
Someone probably said this but whole Magnar-nerds subplot reminds me too much of a "Bully". When I've seen PrepRel/JockRel counters I knew we'll end up with something like it. Still though, I can't see him in antagonistic light - it's more of a comic relief to me.
Obviously, Chad's secret will be discovered by Alphas. It's actually interesting what will they end up doing.
Caleb is an obvious BaDIK's Goro. MC whooping his ass at some point will probably affect powerplay within Jocks.
And while Caleb is this game's Goro, Vinnie's an obvious Shao Kahn. DPC writes himas disgusting as he can be. Everyone that MC had clashes with had reasons for it and redeeming qualities. Vinnie's just chaotic dude. Although, imo, he appears way too rarely. I hope that DPC won't mess up the build-up towards that clash cause so far I can't take that dude seriously.


I still think that Nick is red herring in all of this and MC's take on him may be pivotal at some point. Like, if MC ends up fighting Vinny and Nick's the one who has to take sides.
That brings up another thing: if MC's take on Nick is important, then why is there one for Tara? One could say that it's only for this episode and to enable DIK/CHICK choices on neutral path when it comes down to dorm girls.
But why overcomplicate things when you can simply give MC few interactions with her without points and make only one decision pivotal?
Maybe it's just DPC playing with us, but MC being cruel/understanding to her may have significance to.

At the end of the day, it seems like there will be some kind of trial where relationships with other fraternities and their key figures will play pivotal role.

Do yourself a favor and try the DIK route. I have a base run in Pure Chick, Pure DIK, Neutral, and (Natural choices, wherever that takes me). You can be a good guy or a bad guy on any of those routes, although DIK is more violent.

On a Neutral or Natural run I never punch Troy. As big a dick as he was, he obviously didn't want the guitar to get stolen, and had already been punched. Sometimes I fight the jocks, sometimes I don't (Dad's mantra gets me to restrain myself sometimes). Other than that, it's mostly attitude and dialogue differences, and there are great ones on all paths in all affinities.

 

[Derek in a Bush]

Maybe it's just DPC playing with us, but MC being cruel/understanding to her may have significance to.

I have to think that this is most likely the case

 

[ScrewMe]

I have to think that this is most likely the case

Or maybe it's a classic case of DPC adding side character who wasn't too significant, but peeps ended up falling in love with.
I hope he stops adding new people into the picture because at this point because %name_secondary_char% fans will be disappointed with things like "no blowjob from Arieth, boo"(I still hope that DPC will add a scene of sexual kind with her just for the kekz and lulz around the ending). Imagine the amount of people upset when we'll see endings.
Also, I never volunteered for Strip Club, so I've never seen any Madame scenes. Does she have any kind of storyline except "Oh, mature woman who gets paid for sex"? Can we count her as secondary LI or not at all?

 

[Derek in a Bush]

Can we count her as secondary LI or not at all?

I never thought of madam as an actual side girl