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Oh, come on. Just don't press the big "Return to Zoey" button while in the other girls' path. That's it! Problem solved, moving on.


You seem to have missed all the moments where there was a slow development of his relationship with Zoe starting with Ep.9 and MC pondering who she was to him and what kind of relationship they had - the guy was trying to determine who they were to each other, because in matters of love he is an inexperienced fool.
How DPC brought her back is more of a Chekhov's gun and a mid-game plot twist.


Your attitude towards Zoey and your choices define your attitude towards her. You're define MCs personality, which opens or closes further paths. What's wrong here? It's roleplaying.
Nora path coming out of nowhere. It's another teacher/student romance, we are already have three of them - Bella, Cathy and Jade: all are different and have unique tone: Forbidden relationship with age gap problems, Lust, and Cheating. Nora bring nothing. Except for funny scene with a cat, where MC again looking like a joke.


We definitely need the Interlude because from the storytelling she's the most important person in MC's life after Dad, and seems her comeback was planned from the beginning, ex is a popular trope in VNs. The Interlude just needed to be written better.
Weird that someone still come up with this Interlude topic in 2025, feels like 3 ya when i just joined this place.
While I question how much the interlude was needed it was some of DPC best storytelling his writing was much stronger. Zoey can feel like she just there to be a nuke hopefully her role grows beyond that. No matter player may feel about her she just as important as a MG and holds the honor along with Josy as being the only canon OG LI for MC.

Zoey takes heat because of how she came back and ep9 started the long ass dev cycle we now in. Maybe DPC could had done a better job in setting up her turn less Nora might had help since she holds no story value at all just over grown tits :ROFLMAO:
 
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She's significantly the best IMO but we all have our opinions.
Some opinions are facts and this is a fact. (edit, don't get me wrong plenty of the characters are hot but sage is the only one I feel is more than just a hot character in a porn game, and saying this I realize thats sad but oh well).
 

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While I question how much the interlude was needed it was some of DPC best storytelling his writing was much stronger. Zoey can feel like she just there to be a nuke hopefully her role grows beyond that. No matter player may feel about her she just as important as a MG and holds the honor along with Josy as being the only canon OG LI for MC.

Zoey takes heat because of how she came back and ep9 started the long ass dev cycle we now in. Maybe DPC could had done a better job in setting up her turn less Nora might had help since she holds no story value at all just over grown tits :ROFLMAO:
If Nora was just a hookup in the bathroom the one time it would have been fine


Tits too :love::love::love:
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Oh, come on. Just don't press the big "Return to Zoey" button while in the other girls' path. That's it! Problem solved, moving on.
"Just don't go that route, bro."

Ah yes. The VN argument: you have choice. Which is still stupid.

Setting up a narrative that's inherently fallacious and stupid? Fantastic. It's still hamfisted, bad writing. As was the Interlude. As is the impact of choosing yes, making this project more bloated series of "if then" spaghetti scenarios where 1 line of dialogue changes "I don't care, choose me."

The problem is not some "out of sight" choice solution because of genre; it shouldn't have been one in the first place. It panders to this one very specific, obscure player who: 1) goes on Others, 2) gets tired of manwhoring, 3) suddenly wants some substance and thinks that's what Zoey is, because of windows and Joquinn Phoenix poses...?

Of course there's people like you who think choice trumps all, therefore, anything with choice is good. Being a DIK is good because it's...big? What a complete lack of criticism and critical thinking, as to the nature of even thinking like this is a good thing.

Just write big stories! Big is good. More paper, more ink!

You seem to have missed all the moments where there was a slow development of his relationship with Zoe starting with Ep.9 and MC pondering who she was to him and what kind of relationship they had - the guy was trying to determine who they were to each other, because in matters of love he is an inexperienced fool.
How DPC brought her back is more of a Chekhov's gun and a mid-game plot twist.
The MC is, as always, on the fence. As with most VNs, he's a dumb sod for a reason. What, flashbacks? To him, she was his girlfriend. But not technically. He was so ignorant and immature he had no idea what it was, and they never discussed it. They just fooled around and hung out, because he had no other friends, and his story is he was bullied and in detention. And apparently neither did she. But she left doing what was good for her, not for their relationship. DPC suddenly needs to give her some backstory! (Why?) It doesn't matter what MC thinks of her; she's gone. He doesn't have time to be thinking she's of some girl in his past. He's DROWNING IN WOMEN. And when she comes back, one should not even consider taking her seriously. Why would someone care about anyone who left them? It's a breakup. But our MC, like most other VN MCs, is a nice moron. Now, his life is being surrounded by 24+ women and friends who like him, who some have already given him way more amazing times and friendships. Who cares what he thinks of someone not in the picture, who came back to say hi?

Now imagine the Interlude never existed and the same stuff with Zoey is in place. Does what she did have any value to the narrative? Or her DIk/Chick status? Does "I don't care, choose me?" that important to the narrative?

DPC checkho's gun what? Plot twist? This is an ass pull that destroys all your romantic choices -- even your Others -- just because.

Your attitude towards Zoey and your choices define your attitude towards her. You're define MCs personality, which opens or closes further paths. What's wrong here? It's roleplaying.
No, it's just her DIK/Chick score. I'm always nice to Zoey because this MC doesn't really care; he's nice to everyone. DIK MC is aggressive with anyone, but then: whoopedy do? Why would he care...if nice to her now...or otherwise? It makes no difference, outside of DIK MC rejecting her outright. Good for Zoey being back? We've got dozens more attractive and present women in his life that are part of it and won't go away. Why address the past? MC has moved on regardless of what he thinks of some girl in his past, regardless of his and her DIK status, and regardless of whether the player knows his immediate backstory.

But choice :KappaPride: ! Therefore everything's ok. Good writing all round. DPC can do no wrong! Just choose!

Nora path coming out of nowhere. It's another teacher/student romance, we are already have three of them - Bella, Cathy and Jade: all are different and have unique tone: Forbidden relationship with age gap problems, Lust, and Cheating. Nora bring nothing. Except for funny scene with a cat, where MC again looking like a joke.
Nora is contrasted with the other teachers, but mostly compare to Lily and the Nicole choice/date. Nora is the Ultimate Female, the Greatest Other's choice of "playing the field." Whereas Jade and Cathy are just "hot for teacher" fantasy sex nonsense, and both are just used for sex (regardless of being nice to either), Nora is the wholesome, family desiring, Ultimate woman. She's more in contrast to Bella for her attitude to dating students; the difference being you find her through actual intention: dating on Swyper. She's just as kinky, but much more intelligent, mature, and healthy. And we don't need to get into personality and other details. She is the most attractive female on Others.

We definitely need the Interlude because from the storytelling she's the most important person in MC's life after Dad, and seems her comeback was planned from the beginning, ex is a popular trope in VNs. The Interlude just needed to be written better.
Weird that someone still come up with this Interlude topic in 2025, feels like 3 ya when i just joined this place.
We don't need an entire aside for us to know "she's the most important person to the MC." How is she, going to learn to surf and do tattoo's, prove she's the most important person to the MC? The story is the other way around: the MC is the most important person to her. Who cares? (May as well have a Josy Interlude about her obsessing over him every day so we can explain her "wah" moment?) Unless I completely forgot the Interlude (which is very possible, since who the hell cares about Zoey's deciding she likes a guy she was with for years?), I don't see how it had any impact on the narrative, characterization, or motivation of anyone.

If Zoey is a trope of the returning girlfriend, why do we need an immediate backstory going into the already obvious plot of "I want my guy back?" Or a useless DIK/Chick score? Zoey is more than just another girlfriend in Others -- she's the Destroyer of All Paths, including Others.
 

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While I question how much the interlude was needed it was some of DPC best storytelling his writing was much stronger. Zoey can feel like she just there to be a nuke hopefully her role grows beyond that. No matter player may feel about her she just as important as a MG and holds the honor along with Josy as being the only canon OG LI for MC.

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Perhaps DPC made a reflection on some event from his life, Interlude is his favorite episode, maybe it was in his life too.

ey takes heat because of how she came back and ep9 started the long ass dev cycle we now in. Maybe DPC could had done a better job in setting up her turn less Nora might had help since she holds no story value at all just over grown tits :ROFLMAO:
This. I was there in 2022 and saw people being upset that their porn game in development for too long because of Zoey. Bullshit, trend for updates took longer and longer was from early development, not just in BaDIK, it's a trend for DAZ games.
 
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Perhaps DPC made a reflection on some event from his life, Interlude is his favorite episode, maybe it was in his life too.


This. I was there in 2022 and saw people being upset that their porn game in development for too long because of Zoey. Bullshit, trend for updates took longer and longer was from early development, not just in BaDIK, it's a trend for DAZ games.
Yeah Zoey got a lot of unjust blame in those days as if she the reason eps took longer
 

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"Just don't go that route, bro."

Ah yes. The VN argument: you have choice. Which is still stupid.

Setting up a narrative that's inherently fallacious and stupid? Fantastic. It's still hamfisted, bad writing. As was the Interlude. As is the impact of choosing yes, making this project more bloated series of "if then" spaghetti scenarios where 1 line of dialogue changes "I don't care, choose me."

The problem is not some "out of sight" choice solution because of genre; it shouldn't have been one in the first place. It panders to this one very specific, obscure player who: 1) goes on Others, 2) gets tired of manwhoring, 3) suddenly wants some substance and thinks that's what Zoey is, because of windows and Joquinn Phoenix poses...?

Of course there's people like you who think choice trumps all, therefore, anything with choice is good. Being a DIK is good because it's...big? What a complete lack of criticism and critical thinking, as to the nature of even thinking like this is a good thing.

Just write big stories! Big is good. More paper, more ink!



The MC is, as always, on the fence. As with most VNs, he's a dumb sod for a reason. What, flashbacks? To him, she was his girlfriend. But not technically. He was so ignorant and immature he had no idea what it was, and they never discussed it. They just fooled around and hung out, because he had no other friends, and his story is he was bullied and in detention. And apparently neither did she. But she left doing what was good for her, not for their relationship. DPC suddenly needs to give her some backstory! (Why?) It doesn't matter what MC thinks of her; she's gone. He doesn't have time to be thinking she's of some girl in his past. He's DROWNING IN WOMEN. And when she comes back, one should not even consider taking her seriously. Why would someone care about anyone who left them? It's a breakup. But our MC, like most other VN MCs, is a nice moron. Now, his life is being surrounded by 24+ women and friends who like him, who some have already given him way more amazing times and friendships. Who cares what he thinks of someone not in the picture, who came back to say hi?

Now imagine the Interlude never existed and the same stuff with Zoey is in place. Does what she did have any value to the narrative? Or her DIk/Chick status? Does "I don't care, choose me?" that important to the narrative?

DPC checkho's gun what? Plot twist? This is an ass pull that destroys all your romantic choices -- even your Others -- just because.


No, it's just her DIK/Chick score. I'm always nice to Zoey because this MC doesn't really care; he's nice to everyone. DIK MC is aggressive with anyone, but then: whoopedy do? Why would he care...if nice to her now...or otherwise? It makes no difference, outside of DIK MC rejecting her outright. Good for Zoey being back? We've got dozens more attractive and present women in his life that are part of it and won't go away. Why address the past? MC has moved on regardless of what he thinks of some girl in his past, regardless of his and her DIK status, and regardless of whether the player knows his immediate backstory.

But choice :KappaPride: ! Therefore everything's ok. Good writing all round. DPC can do no wrong! Just choose!



Nora is contrasted with the other teachers, but mostly compare to Lily and the Nicole choice/date. Nora is the Ultimate Female, the Greatest Other's choice of "playing the field." Whereas Jade and Cathy are just "hot for teacher" fantasy sex nonsense, and both are just used for sex (regardless of being nice to either), Nora is the wholesome, family desiring, Ultimate woman. She's more in contrast to Bella for her attitude to dating students; the difference being you find her through actual intention: dating on Swyper. She's just as kinky, but much more intelligent, mature, and healthy. And we don't need to get into personality and other details. She is the most attractive female on Others.



We don't need an entire aside for us to know "she's the most important person to the MC." How is she, going to learn to surf and do tattoo's, prove she's the most important person to the MC? The story is the other way around: the MC is the most important person to her. Who cares? (May as well have a Josy Interlude about her obsessing over him every day so we can explain her "wah" moment?) Unless I completely forgot the Interlude (which is very possible, since who the hell cares about Zoey's deciding she likes a guy she was with for years?), I don't see how it had any impact on the narrative, characterization, or motivation of anyone.

If Zoey is a trope of the returning girlfriend, why do we need an immediate backstory going into the already obvious plot of "I want my guy back?" Or a useless DIK/Chick score? Zoey is more than just another girlfriend in Others -- she's the Destroyer of All Paths, including Others.
TL;DR :KEK:
 
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