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I don't see it that way. The whole point of the Stephen flashback is to show a different side of the character, not the corrupt, rotten asshole we know. It's an application of the gray morality that DPC has used over and over again - like he doing with Quinn, Patrick and here too. We see a young man who had principles - he didn't want to commit a crime at work, for this he was fired. We see a man whose personal life is going to hell because he and his wife are completely incompatible. We see him before he's completely screwed.
Does it work with Stephen? No, I haven't seen many people empathize with him after that scene - he's too disgusting for that. But it was definitely a virtue signal of gray morality from DPC and I'm sure Stephen wasn't lying to the psychologist here.
Really? I see a lot of people empathize with him after that scene, or at least hate him less since he "used to be good".
 

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I probably missing a lot in the thread, can't live here.
But I saw more empathy with Patrick after Ep.11
Stephen also has been way worse than Patrick, so it's easier to have empathy with P. Stephen is the most important reason why Mona left B&R, and is a serial cheater, and those are just some minor things he's done. Also "because he was good" is not really a reason to have empathy for someone. A lot of heavy criminals were good in their younger years, that doesn't mean we can really empathize with them for what they've done in their later years.
 

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I probably missing a lot in the thread, can't live here.
But I saw more empathy with Patrick after Ep.11


Oh come on, just why:D
In any case, I agree that Stephen was telling the truth and definitely didn't pay off a doctor or anything like that. Of course, if Jade is pregnant (which I seriously doubt), the alternative would be every single doctor is a dumbass: her doctor, his doctor, second opinion doctors, specialists, and so on. That sounds even less likely, but just the idea of her not being barren is dumb, no matter the explanation.

Fun to meme about though :BootyTime:
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Stephen also has been way worse than Patrick, so it's easier to have empathy with P. Stephen is the most important reason why Mona left B&R, and is a serial cheater, and those are just some minor things he's done. Also "because he was good" is not really a reason to have empathy for someone. A lot of heavy criminals were good in their younger years, that doesn't mean we can really empathize with them for what they've done in their later years.
As you should have noticed from my post, I'm not joining in the Stephen whitewashing, I'm pointing out the plot role and mechanics of that scene in the story and why I'm sure Stephen wasn't lying about Jade being infertile back then.
In any case, I agree that Stephen was telling the truth and definitely didn't pay off a doctor or anything like that. Of course, if Jade is pregnant (which I seriously doubt), the alternative would be every single doctor is a dumbass: her doctor, his doctor, second opinion doctors, specialists, and so on. That sounds even less likely, but just the idea of her not being barren is dumb, no matter the explanation.

Fun to meme about though :BootyTime:
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Yep, just asset manipulation. DPC loves them bigger, big part of audience in porn games love them big, just a porn game thing.
 
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I think its complete nonsense too. Was surprised to see it got as many votes as it did in my poll tbh. (a third)
Probably the last time I will collate these results. Thank you all for participating!
  1. Quinn goes to prison by the end of the game (possible ending) 68% of voters say NO (6Y/13N)
  2. Nick gets back together with the DIKs to bring down Magnar 74% of voters say YES (14Y/5N)
  3. "The Locked Room" is a nursery 62% of voters say YES (13Y/9N)
  4. Melanie is Troy's sister 50/50 (10Y/10N)
  5. The throuple will break up no matter what the player does 68% of voters say NO (6Y/13N)
  6. Nora is already pregnant 63% of voters say YES (12Y/7N)
  7. Jade is pregnant with Tremolo's baby (not barren) 67% of voters say NO (7Y/14N)
  8. Madame Rose is Sage's real mom 89% of voters say NO (2Y/17N)
  9. Sally is in kahoots with Magnar's plot and is spying on Tremolo 75% of voters say NO (5Y/15N)
  10. Jill will discover the Bianca cheat path in episode 12 68% of voters say YES (13Y/6N)
Highest probability
Nick gets back together with the DIKs to bring down Magnar 74% of voters say YES (14Y/5N)

Lowest probability
Madame Rose is Sage's real mom 89% of voters say NO (2Y/17N)


Biggest surprise
"The Locked Room" is a nursery 62% of voters say YES (13Y/9N)

Total Scores
4 Yes results
5 No results
1 50/50 result
 

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Jade is not pregnant. MC creampies her before Halloween (date unknown). They don't interact again until just before Christmas. She shows zero signs of being pregnant. She also doesn't act like a woman that is multiple months pregnant. And she would have known if she was when you sleep with her at the yoga studio.
MC's sperm is as slow as his moves during sex, so what he shot months back have only just made it to Jade's egg recently. :whistle::coffee:
 

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I think its complete nonsense too. Was surprised to see it got as many votes as it did in my poll tbh. (a third)
It's just experience with fiction. In at least 90% of the stories I've read or movies/shows I've seen where people say the woman is barren, the opposite is the case. If you see it happen so often, it's only common sense to expect it to happen in every story until it's proven to the viewer that she is indeed barren.
 
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It's just experience with fiction. In at least 90% of the stories I've read or movies/shows I've seen where people say the woman is barren, the opposite is the case. If you see it happen so often, it's only common sense to see it happen in every story until it's proven to the viewer that she is indeed barren.
I get that. Just think the surprise pregnancy will be the obvious Nora setup and not the character they have told us is barren and is rich enough to have multiple tests to confirm.

Doubt he'd give us multiple surprise pregnancies anyway.
 

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It's just experience with fiction. In at least 90% of the stories I've read or movies/shows I've seen where people say the woman is barren, the opposite is the case. If you see it happen so often, it's only common sense to expect it to happen in every story until it's proven to the viewer that she is indeed barren.
Yeh, I've been playing Grandma's house for too long as well.
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Yeh, I've been playing Grandma's house for too long as well.
:ROFLMAO:
But nah, I was talking about more "realistic" stories (thriller novels, soap operas, romantic dramas/comedies, etc.). GH is so unrealistic, I don't even think of that title when theorizing future twists/plot lines in AVNs, including BaDIK.
 
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