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ZenoMod

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There are ways to catch cheats without needing to know anything about the mod involved - for example, most path-switching will lead to inconsistencies between the phone bios and the in-game variables; money cheats will leave impossible amounts of money having been spent; etc.
Yeah, but those checks your referring to are extra work, and can lead to embarassing false positives (for instance forcing a quit on a player that never used any mod because you detected an inconsistency between bios and in-game variables... for discovering too late that the inconsistency was due to a bug. I'm not inventing. Some bug fixes, as reported by DPC in the change log, were precisely inconsistencies in the bios).

While targeting known mods is as easy as a single "if" clause to check if a specific object - which is NEVER defined in the unmodded game - is defined. No risk of false positives here. If you have an extra object defined, you DEFINITELY modded the original code.
 
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There are ways to catch cheats without needing to know anything about the mod involved - for example, most path-switching will lead to inconsistencies between the phone bios and the in-game variables; money cheats will leave impossible amounts of money having been spent; etc.

There are also ways to defeat or bypass any possible mod-check once the game is in someone's hands - either repurposing the game's own logic to switch between possible gamestates, or modifying the code to remove certain checks.

Keeping your mod off the radar keeps it from facing dedicated checks, but doesn't protect it from more general logic/consistency checks.

And, of course, adding more mod checks to the game just encourages an arms race, with both sides putting in more time and energy to end up at a similar place...

If you compare Maya's task list to the other candidates' lists, Maya has legitimate grounds for complaint - the tamest of the tasks she got set are comparable to the lewdest on anyone else's list.

I think you both meant "blue plus"
There are tons of ways DPC could detect modifications in his game. He could even use a custom .rpa compression format so no one could access his code.

He could check the number of files being loaded, he could check for the existence of the tl folder to block translations, he could check bio like you mentioned, and so on. There are countless possibilities.

But the point is, DPC only adds these checks to mess with Scrappy’s mod specifically—it’s his way of trolling some innocent pirates. After all, anyone with 15 minutes of basic Python tutorial on YouTube can remove his checks.

If someone is making their own tweaks, without needing to use other people’s mods, they’re never going to bother him on Discord saying “my game crashed, DPC please fix it.”

So yeah, he’ll probably keep trolling only people who use Scrappy’s mod. Honestly, I still don’t understand why Scrappy even added a persistent variable to his mod.
 
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Guys, this is a very, very urgent question. When M and J count how many girls you've had, do they include the game with Quinn at the beginning of the second episode and the blowjob from Envy at the strip club?
 

ZenoMod

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So yeah, he’ll probably keep trolling only people who use Scrappy’s mod. Honestly, I still don’t understand why Scrappy even added a persistent variable to his mod.
Well... the reason was simply remembering if the walkthrough was enabled without the need of enabling it every time you relaunch the game.
New releases of Scrappy mod don't use that variable, and delete it if it is defined to bypass DPC's checks.

The point is that Sancho mod is as easily detectable as Scrappy mod, but for some reason DPC keeps only targeting the old version of Scrappy mod.

Either DPC isn't aware of Sancho mod, or he tolerates it and specifically hates Scrappy mod (the old release).
 

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Guys, this is a very, very urgent question. When M and J count how many girls you've had, do they include the game with Quinn at the beginning of the second episode and the blowjob from Envy at the strip club?
Code:
menu:
  "Truth" if True:
    mc "Well, there's you two... My ex..."
    js "Why do I have the feeling it won't end there?"
      $ tmpInt = 3
    if ep1_lewd_camila_quinn or ep3_fuckedCamilaAndMona or ep5_fuckedCamila or ep7_camila_lewd or quinn_shop_spicy_lvl>0:
      $ tmpInt += 1
    if ep3_fuckedRionaQuinn or ep4_quinn_lewd or ep1_lewd_camila_quinn or ep6_quinn_lewd or ep2_wonCumpetition:
      $ tmpInt += 1
    if ep3_fuckedRionaQuinn or ep2_fuckHOT or ep5_fuckedRiona or ep7_riona_lewd or quinn_shop_japanese_lvl > 0:
      $ tmpInt += 1
    if ep5_cathy_lewd:
      $ tmpInt += 1
    if ep4_bella_lewd or ep5_bella_lewd:
      $ tmpInt += 1
    if ep4_fuckedMelanie or ep2_fuckHOT or ep5_hot_lewd or ep8_melanie_lewd:
      $ tmpInt += 1
    if ep7_becky_lewd:
      $ tmpInt += 1
    if ep3_fuckedCamilaAndMona:
      $ tmpInt += 1
    if ep2_fuckHOT or ep5_hot_lewd or ep6_sarah_lewd or ep8_sarah_lewd:
      $ tmpInt += 1
    if ep8_sarah_lewd:
      $ tmpInt += 2
    if ep3_envyLewd > 0 or ep6_envy_lewd or ep8_envy_lewd:
      $ tmpInt += 1
    if ep6_nora_lewd:
      $ tmpInt += 1
    if ep6_envy_lewd or ep8_sandy_lewd:
      $ tmpInt += 1
    if ep4_lickedAshley:
      $ tmpInt += 1
    if ep4_grindedLily or ep5_lily_lewd or ep7_lily_lewd or ep8_lily_lewd:
      $ tmpInt += 1
    if ep3_acceptedJade:
      $ tmpInt += 1
    if ep4_roseLewd:
      $ tmpInt += 1
    if ep2QuinnSawYouAndSage or ep4_fuckedSage or ep5_fuckedSage or ep7_sage_lewd:
      $ tmpInt += 1
    if ep7_accept_madame:
      $ tmpInt += 1

      if tmpInt >= 10:
        $ RPjosy -= 3
        $ RPmaya -= 3
        mc "Honestly... I don't keep count. But it's probably more than 10."
        my "That many? No way!"
        js "More than 10!?"
        mc "Yeah."
        js "Who?"
        mc "That wasn't part of the question."
        js "Wow... That's...a lot!"
        my "Yeah."
          elif tmpInt >= 5:
            mc "It's just a few more."
            js "Less than 10?"
            mc "Yeah, definitely. Please."
            my "Interesting..."
              elif tmpInt == 4:
                $ RPjosy += 1
                $ RPmaya += 1
                mc "Maybe one more or two, but that's about it."
                js "Who?"
                mc "That wasn't part of the question."
                my "I didn't expect it to be that few. That's amazing."
                  elif tmpInt == 3:
                    $ RPjosy += 3
                    $ RPmaya += 3
                    mc "It does."
                    js "No way."
                    mc "Way."
                    my "That's incredibly sweet."
                    js "It is. Wow..."
  "Drink" if True:
    $ RPjosy -= 2
    $ RPmaya -= 2
    js "You got him."
    my "Yep, [name] is a slut. Confirmed!"
    mc "I'm not a slut. I was thirsty."
    my "Yep. You sure are thirsty."
You're in a bad state only if you did 7+ girls during this event. You'll get -3 RP for both or -2 RP if you will choice to drink instead of answering. In case of 2+ <7 you'll not get or lose any RP. 1 lewd scene only gives you +1 RP and staying absolutely loyal (being intimate only with J&M during the whole 1-2 Seasons) gives you +3 RP for both. Nothing other than RP is affected, no new variables set or created. So the RP is the only concern during this scene. If your RP will be too low, you'll not be able to get a reciprocate for your "I love you" words from Josy or Maya in EP11. If you play it right and don't ruin everything with your choices, you'll have more than enough RP even if you'll get -3 in this particular scene.
 

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Josy/Maya solo: they aren't breaking up anytime soon because they started being more open. However, a breakup could be in the cards? Me, I don't think so, no.
big disagree they have a very bad relationship and nothing seems to help them. Maybe chocing not to say I love yet could save it but favoring one and I love you is very clearing leading to a break up. They will break up in 12 maybe there a save path it but after ep11 there no way around at least one breakup path for them
 
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Code:
menu:
  "Truth" if True:
    mc "Well, there's you two... My ex..."
    js "Why do I have the feeling it won't end there?"
      $ tmpInt = 3
    if ep1_lewd_camila_quinn or ep3_fuckedCamilaAndMona or ep5_fuckedCamila or ep7_camila_lewd or quinn_shop_spicy_lvl>0:
      $ tmpInt += 1
    if ep3_fuckedRionaQuinn or ep4_quinn_lewd or ep1_lewd_camila_quinn or ep6_quinn_lewd or ep2_wonCumpetition:
      $ tmpInt += 1
    if ep3_fuckedRionaQuinn or ep2_fuckHOT or ep5_fuckedRiona or ep7_riona_lewd or quinn_shop_japanese_lvl > 0:
      $ tmpInt += 1
    if ep5_cathy_lewd:
      $ tmpInt += 1
    if ep4_bella_lewd or ep5_bella_lewd:
      $ tmpInt += 1
    if ep4_fuckedMelanie or ep2_fuckHOT or ep5_hot_lewd or ep8_melanie_lewd:
      $ tmpInt += 1
    if ep7_becky_lewd:
      $ tmpInt += 1
    if ep3_fuckedCamilaAndMona:
      $ tmpInt += 1
    if ep2_fuckHOT or ep5_hot_lewd or ep6_sarah_lewd or ep8_sarah_lewd:
      $ tmpInt += 1
    if ep8_sarah_lewd:
      $ tmpInt += 2
    if ep3_envyLewd > 0 or ep6_envy_lewd or ep8_envy_lewd:
      $ tmpInt += 1
    if ep6_nora_lewd:
      $ tmpInt += 1
    if ep6_envy_lewd or ep8_sandy_lewd:
      $ tmpInt += 1
    if ep4_lickedAshley:
      $ tmpInt += 1
    if ep4_grindedLily or ep5_lily_lewd or ep7_lily_lewd or ep8_lily_lewd:
      $ tmpInt += 1
    if ep3_acceptedJade:
      $ tmpInt += 1
    if ep4_roseLewd:
      $ tmpInt += 1
    if ep2QuinnSawYouAndSage or ep4_fuckedSage or ep5_fuckedSage or ep7_sage_lewd:
      $ tmpInt += 1
    if ep7_accept_madame:
      $ tmpInt += 1

      if tmpInt >= 10:
        $ RPjosy -= 3
        $ RPmaya -= 3
        mc "Honestly... I don't keep count. But it's probably more than 10."
        my "That many? No way!"
        js "More than 10!?"
        mc "Yeah."
        js "Who?"
        mc "That wasn't part of the question."
        js "Wow... That's...a lot!"
        my "Yeah."
          elif tmpInt >= 5:
            mc "It's just a few more."
            js "Less than 10?"
            mc "Yeah, definitely. Please."
            my "Interesting..."
              elif tmpInt == 4:
                $ RPjosy += 1
                $ RPmaya += 1
                mc "Maybe one more or two, but that's about it."
                js "Who?"
                mc "That wasn't part of the question."
                my "I didn't expect it to be that few. That's amazing."
                  elif tmpInt == 3:
                    $ RPjosy += 3
                    $ RPmaya += 3
                    mc "It does."
                    js "No way."
                    mc "Way."
                    my "That's incredibly sweet."
                    js "It is. Wow..."
  "Drink" if True:
    $ RPjosy -= 2
    $ RPmaya -= 2
    js "You got him."
    my "Yep, [name] is a slut. Confirmed!"
    mc "I'm not a slut. I was thirsty."
    my "Yep. You sure are thirsty."
You're in a bad state only if you did 7+ girls during this event. You'll get -3 RP for both or -2 RP if you will choice to drink instead of answering. In case of 2+ <7 you'll not get or lose any RP. 1 lewd scene only gives you +1 RP and staying absolutely loyal (being intimate only with J&M during the whole 1-2 Seasons) gives you +3 RP for both. Nothing other than RP is affected, no new variables set or created. So the RP is the only concern during this scene. If your RP will be too low, you'll not be able to get a reciprocate for your "I love you" words from Josy or Maya in EP11. If you play it right and don't ruin everything with your choices, you'll have more than enough RP even if you'll get -3 in this particular scene.
Any idea why
ep8_sarah_lewd
counts as +2 instead of +1 like the others?
 

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Any idea why
ep8_sarah_lewd
counts as +2 instead of +1 like the others?
Better to ask why ONLY 2 and not 3? :) Because MC fucks 3 girls through glory hole if he accepts Sarah offer - Sarah herself as a warmup and then Tara and Kylie.

There're also a lot of inconsistencies in this list. DPC included check for scenes that can't be obtained playing normally and w/o mods/cheats. Some of scenes are naturally blocked if you have active J&M path. But ... it's DPC.
 
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Better to ask why ONLY 2 and not 3? :) Because MC fucks 3 girls through glory hole if he accepts Sarah offer - Sarah herself as a warmup and then Tara and Kylie.

There're also a lot of inconsistencies in this list. DPC included check for scenes that can't be obtained playing normally and w/o mods/cheats. Some of scenes are naturally blocked if you have active J&M path. But ... it's DPC.
Oh, shit! Gotta go back to Ep8, then! :D
Thanks for the heads-up! (y)
 

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Please answer each question with a YES/NO and I will collate the results as I did in the last poll.
  1. Somebody will die as part the drugs plot (Vinny/Buddy/Quinn/a cop etc)
  2. On the Quinn path, Tremolo or Quinn will get shot as part of the drugs plot (non lethally)
  3. Lynette's last name will be revealed in Episode 12
  4. Magnar and the Nerds blackmail/letters plot will be wrapped-up in Episode 12 (revealed and stopped)
  5. Heather and Tremolo will have a full sex scene in Episode 12
  6. Jill/Bella/Tremolo will have a threesome scene in Episode 12
  7. Jade/Cathy/Tremolo will have a threesome scene in Episode 12
  8. Tremolo will set-up or have a date with Cinderella in Episode 12
  9. Zoey will have ≥ 2 gallery scenes in Episode 12
  10. Bella and Jill will have an "I Love You" choice in Episode 12, as the other MGs did in Episode 11
1. yes (hopefully not Quinn)
2. yes
3. yes
4. no
5. no
6. no (but later on, yes. don't recall how many episodes are left after 12 though)
7. yes hopefully
8. who
9. hopefully not
10. yes

edit: oh nevermind I'm late to the poll but there you go anyways
 

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I saw it before, why though people speculate about her having 2 scenes? where it was mentioned? ty
It's entirely possible. It doesn't make sense to wait with their first meeting following the panty party so the MC and Zoey likely celebrate with some sweet love making right after the finger incident. Another one could be in the 2nd half of the episode, during or after New Year or whatever party DPC has planned. It might be executed in a similar way as the Halloween party where we were able to end our night with several different girls depending on the path. yw
 
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It's time for another poll!

Here are the results of the previous poll for anyone who is interested:

Please answer each question with a YES/NO and I will collate the results as I did in the last poll.

  1. Somebody will die as part the drugs plot (Vinny/Buddy/Quinn/a cop etc)
  2. On the Quinn path, Tremolo or Quinn will get shot as part of the drugs plot (non lethally)
  3. Lynette's last name will be revealed in Episode 12
  4. Magnar and the Nerds blackmail/letters plot will be wrapped-up in Episode 12 (revealed and stopped)
  5. Heather and Tremolo will have a full sex scene in Episode 12
  6. Jill/Bella/Tremolo will have a threesome scene in Episode 12
  7. Jade/Cathy/Tremolo will have a threesome scene in Episode 12
  8. Tremolo will set-up or have a date with Cinderella in Episode 12
  9. Zoey will have ≥ 2 gallery scenes in Episode 12
  10. Bella and Jill will have an "I Love You" choice in Episode 12, as the other MGs did in Episode 11
Yes
No
t likely
Not a chance
No
Hopefully yes
Again hopefully yes
No
:(
Sadly nope :( (doubtful)
Yes
Yes
 
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