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Okay, this question has been brewing for a while. Why is Sage at a Halloween party covered in oil?
Obviously, to save Jill from the Tybalt with his annoying repetitive moisturizing and all that stuff he used to do. She borrowed his oil and used it on herself.
 

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Obviously, to save Jill from the Tybalt with his annoying repetitive moisturizing and all that stuff he used to do. She borrowed his oil and used it on herself.
At that point in time Sage wasn't friends yet with Jill (they start connecting later during the Halloween party), so obviously this isn't the case :BootyTime:
 
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Still on balanced throuple path. After being denied what's rightfully mine, I was just reminded of some dialogue I think I've seen only once. If you have the Episode 7 lewd, Maya will let you cum inside her during this lewd, but without it she won't. And being confirmed to have no protection (meaning birth control pills, I doubt she meant carrying condoms on her), she is potentially game for a risky creampie :sneaky:

Princess Vicky, that's my girl :devilish:
Josy probably shared the pills with her. In EP7, Josy (in her solo scene) mentions that she is taking pills again. I doubt she didn't share them with Maya, and also didn't tell her about the pills and stuff. The creampie option and scene alteration serves for both completeonist purposes (to satisfy and to encourage players to find such nuances and details) and attention to details, bc in EP7 scene Maya finally "opens" for MC and have a good time with him. Doing Josy scene is required to make her wear MC's red sweater later in EP8. So it's kinda balanced in one or another way.


At that point in time Sage wasn't friends yet with Jill (they start connecting later during the Halloween party), so obviously this isn't the case :BootyTime:
It was a banter :WeSmart:
 
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Josy probably shared the pills with her. In EP7, Josy (in her solo scene) mentions that she is taking pills again. I doubt she didn't share them with Maya, and also didn't tell her about the pills and stuff. The creampie option and scene alteration serves for both completeonist purposes (to satisfy and to encourage players to find such nuances and details) and attention to details, bc in EP7 scene Maya finally "opens" for MC and have a good time with him. Doing Josy scene is required to make her wear MC's red sweater later in EP8. So it's kinda balanced in one or another way.
That's possible, Maya mentions no having protection in Episode 7 as well. Yeah favoring Josy is required for her to wear the sweater in the hallway too.

I also learned right now that the scenes where MC sets up his room as a place for Maya and Josy to talk and be alone are not canon to their path. If you don't choose either of them for Episode 7's solo hangout, you don't get this. Very interesting.
 
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That's possible, Maya mentions no having protection in Episode 7 as well. Yeah favoring Josy is required for her to wear the sweater in the hallway too.

I also learned right now that the scenes where MC sets up his room as a place for Maya and Josy to talk and be alone are not canon to their path. If you don't choose either of them for Episode 7's solo hangout, you don't get this. Very interesting.
Yeah, their date in MC room is optional. Maybe it's one of the options implying their solo paths later. Like, MC didn't help them a lot here and there, so they fall apart, etc. But it's still unknown, how DPC planned all this paths/sub-paths for the Throuple and Others (with feelings for Josy/Maya) branches. After EP8 it's more noticable that options for "help" them are only available in Others branch, since being in Throuple branch, MC always helps them. For now (EP9-11), the only options left for Throuple is a balance of solo scenes and ILY.
I think there will be same outcome available (solo path) via different ways. Like it was with Sage - become her boyfriend via fuck buddy or wait until she's officially "free" in EP7. Obtaining J/M solo path through "others" branch looks more polite and less brutal. While getting one of them via Throuple branch is more cruel and dramatic. That's why I'm still sure there will be an option to save the Throuple, otherwise all this balancing, RPs and other stuff are going to trash after so much years of development, which would be quite a nonsense.
 

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Yeah, their date in MC room is optional. Maybe it's one of the options implying their solo paths later. Like, MC didn't help them a lot here and there, so they fall apart, etc. But it's still unknown, how DPC planned all this paths/sub-paths for the Throuple and Others (with feelings for Josy/Maya) branches. After EP8 it's more noticable that options for "help" them are only available in Others branch, since being in Throuple branch, MC always helps them. For now (EP9-11), the only options left for Throuple is a balance of solo scenes and ILY.
I think there will be same outcome available (solo path) via different ways. Like it was with Sage - become her boyfriend via fuck buddy or wait until she's officially "free" in EP7. Obtaining J/M solo path through "others" branch looks more polite and less brutal. While getting one of them via Throuple branch is more cruel and dramatic. That's why I'm still sure there will be an option to save the Throuple, otherwise all this balancing, RPs and other stuff are going to trash after so much years of development, which would be quite a nonsense.
I think that on the Others route, we will only be able to end up with Josy and not with Maya. On that route Maya just stays friendly and nothing more, while Josy keeps being annoying with her "what if". I even think that she will stay with Maya until MC decides to start a solo relationship with MC in this scenario, thus making it imo at least as cruel as going from a throuple to a couple.
 
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I think that on the Others route, we will only be able to end up with Josy and not with Maya. On that route Maya just stays friendly and nothing more, while Josy keeps being annoying with her "what if". I even think that she will stay with Maya until MC decides to start a solo relationship with MC in this scenario, thus making it imo at least as cruel as going from a throuple to a couple.
Don't forget about Maya's character and the fact that she doesn't always show what she thinks. In this sense, she is the complete opposite of Josy.
Again, there's no sense of putting options and hints here and there, which lets player to choose and follow some potential path(s), if it was not planned from the moment of this sub paths opened (EP5).

Josy got a bit more content in this area (EP9 photoshoot, EP10 hang out and 2 moments in EP11 - scene with gnome in HOT's house and J&M talk at Bella's place). But Maya also got alternate/extended scenes in case you picked feelings for her in EP5 and choosed Others branch later. EP10 hang out. EP11 - scene at Bella's after the Thanksgiving. Scene at Bella's party - I'm not sure does Maya say something to Josy in case you picked feelings for her and confessed your feelings later, during EP10 hang out, bc I haven't played such particular save yet, and I hadn't checked that part of the game code either. But even if she didn't, it's not that important, bc she may still hide it for a while.
 

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Don't forget about Maya's character and the fact that she doesn't always show what she thinks. In this sense, she is the complete opposite of Josy.
Again, there's no sense of putting options and hints here and there, which lets player to choose and follow some potential path(s), if it was not planned from the moment of this sub paths opened (EP5).

Josy got a bit more content in this area (EP9 photoshoot, EP10 hang out and 2 moments in EP11 - scene with gnome in HOT's house and J&M talk at Bella's place). But Maya also got alternate/extended scenes in case you picked feelings for her in EP5 and choosed Others branch later. EP10 hang out. EP11 - scene at Bella's after the Thanksgiving. Scene at Bella's party - I'm not sure does Maya say something to Josy in case you picked feelings for her and confessed your feelings later, during EP10 hang out, bc I haven't played such particular save yet, and I hadn't checked that part of the game code either. But even if she didn't, it's not that important, bc she may still hide it for a while.
To be honest, I didn't know you would get extended scenes if you told Derek you've got feelings for Maya, but aren't going for the throuple. I only say that when I'm going for the throuple, but then you can't choose Others. Maybe something to try one of my next routes. I was going to download the complete series soon anyway for a few more playthroughs (including only going for 1 MG during the whole game, since I only did that so far with Jill to be denied by her in the end for the forced Others path), since my backlog of AVNs on Steam is almost empty again.
 
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Don't forget about Maya's character and the fact that she doesn't always show what she thinks. In this sense, she is the complete opposite of Josy.
Again, there's no sense of putting options and hints here and there, which lets player to choose and follow some potential path(s), if it was not planned from the moment of this sub paths opened (EP5).

Josy got a bit more content in this area (EP9 photoshoot, EP10 hang out and 2 moments in EP11 - scene with gnome in HOT's house and J&M talk at Bella's place). But Maya also got alternate/extended scenes in case you picked feelings for her in EP5 and choosed Others branch later. EP10 hang out. EP11 - scene at Bella's after the Thanksgiving. Scene at Bella's party - I'm not sure does Maya say something to Josy in case you picked feelings for her and confessed your feelings later, during EP10 hang out, bc I haven't played such particular save yet, and I hadn't checked that part of the game code either. But even if she didn't, it's not that important, bc she may still hide it for a while.
For Maya, if you have feelings for her, she'll tell Josy about it in their end of Episode 11 talk.
 

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To be honest, I didn't know you would get extended scenes if you told Derek you've got feelings for Maya, but aren't going for the throuple. I only say that when I'm going for the throuple, but then you can't choose Others. Maybe something to try one of my next routes. I was going to download the complete series soon anyway for a few more playthroughs (including only going for 1 MG during the whole game, since I only did that so far with Jill to be denied by her in the end for the forced Others path), since my backlog of AVNs on Steam is almost empty again.
So, you're just making assumptions and all w/o playing actual paths/options? I mean, you know about that choice in EP5, but you almost insisted that nothing changes and happens to Maya after that? Of course, choice in EP5 have sense only if you go for Others branch in EP8. You won't have this option and choice in EP5 if you joined the Throuple at the end of EP4, either...

p.s. I forgot about scene in EP10 at BBQ party, both got something too. Josy - a couple of renders and option to kiss her forhead (or not), Maya - a couple of dialogue lines (but those lines are quite important too).
 

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So, you're just making assumptions and all w/o playing actual paths/options? I mean, you know about that choice in EP5, but you almost insisted that nothing changes and happens to Maya after that? Of course, choice in EP5 have sense only if you go for Others branch in EP8. You won't have this option and choice in EP5 if you joined the Throuple at the end of EP4, either...
I'm saying it based on the at least 30/40 playthroughs I've done, both with and without throuple. In none of those does she go beyond just wanting to be friends if you're not on the throuple path, not even if you do all positive things for her. I also don't see why telling Derek would change that if I'm not saying anything else romantic about her (since we don't get an option for anything later or before that).
 
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I'd say realistic is August/September 2026, optimistic would be June/July and pessimistic would be October and beyond.

This takes into consideration past trends of every EP taking a bit longer than the last one. For example EP 10 took around 12 months and 11 took 15.

Assuming EP 12 takes 18 gives us the realistic September 26 guess.
Could be, but I think it all depends on how fast he can make the new gameplay option work (or whatever it's going to be). When he told us about it, I got the feeling that it might be at least a bit challenging.
 
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