VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[EEMNHMQI]

Just saying after all we don't know Rio's state of mind besides rightly being mad at Quinn

Her state of mind, her wounds and if she's ever coming back to B&R

 

[evetoyou]

I didn't explore it, but did we ever learn who was the deep blue-eyed girl ("bluest eyes ever" or something) from Halloween party?

 

[Darkwen]

Imo Quinn made her mentally into a fighter, not a quitter. IF Rio dies, it won't be by suicide.

I imagine Rio isn't going to be the same for a while with the kidnapping and beating she took would be interesting with they make up but she won't work for her unless Quinn out of her old life, which could happen

 

[Chillout1984]

I didn't explore it, but did we ever learn who was the deep blue-eyed girl ("bluest eyes ever" or something) from Halloween party?

Sort of. We find out during the Panty Party in ep 11. She is currently named Cinderella thanks to how she introduced herself to MC. She's also known as Yoga Girl and we also see her during science class, she's the previously unknown white-haired girl. We don't know her real name yet.

 

[KАRАMBA]

rightly being mad at Quinn

You can being mad at Quinn.
But you can't being mad at Quinn rightly!

 

[Better Cock Spock]

I didn't explore it, but did we ever learn who was the deep blue-eyed girl ("bluest eyes ever" or something) from Halloween party?

Cinderella

 

[Darkwen]

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You can being mad at Quinn.
But you can't being mad at Quinn rightly!

Quinn earn the slap she got from Rio in 11

 

[KАRАMBA]

Cinderella

It's a familiar picture...

 

[Better Cock Spock]

It's a familiar picture...

Yeah, I remember your shitty memes

 

[FalconLover420]

Cinderella
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DAMN what if cinderella is the true ending

 

[Better Cock Spock]

DAMN what if cinderella is the true ending

"If"?

 

[EEMNHMQI]

IF Rio dies, it won't be by suicide

As soon as I read this, my mind was cast to the poll d2d did last month [#365,864]. The first question was this:

Somebody will die as part the drugs plot (Vinny/Buddy/Quinn/a cop etc)

And the second one was:

On the Quinn path, Tremolo or Quinn will get shot as part of the drugs plot (non lethally)

What if it does happen -which I obviously don't-? Do you reckon it's plausible? Me, I think (and hope) it's the second if it has to happen. I like Quinn, but I don't think she's 100% redeemed herself yet and might be subject to further karma payback, specially now that she called the cops and Buddy/Vinny might retaliate to get her out of hiding.

I put this as an inline spoiler because it's just a mini rant. Yes, she's done really shitty, scummy stuff, but she's now trying to do the right thing for once. I don't want to start another "Quinn sucks" v "Quinn rules" or "She's had it rough growing up" because there's nothing at all I can add anyway. It is just the opinion of a stranger.

 

[KАRАMBA]

Yeah, I remember your shitty memes

 

[Better Cock Spock]

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Case in point

 

[Chillout1984]

As soon as I read this, my mind was cast to the poll d2d did last month [#365,864]. The first question was this:


And the second one was:


What if it does happen -which I obviously don't-? Do you reckon it's plausible? Me, I think (and hope) it's the second if it has to happen. I like Quinn, but I don't think she's 100% redeemed herself yet and might be subject to further karma payback, specially now that she called the cops and Buddy/Vinny might retaliate to get her out of hiding.

I put this as an inline spoiler because it's just a mini rant. Yes, she's done really shitty, scummy stuff, but she's now trying to do the right thing for once. I don't want to start another "Quinn sucks" v "Quinn rules" or "She's had it rough growing up" because there's nothing at all I can add anyway. It is just the opinion of a stranger.

I answered yes on both of those questions. I'm of the believe that Vinny and/or Buddy (probably only 1 of them) will die and I'm pretty sure that on the Quinn path Tremolo will be shot while defending either Quinn, Riona or 1 of the DIKs (probably Tommy). I even think that Tremolo will be shot anyway no matter the path, since I think that if we're not on Riona and/or Quinn's path, Quinn will call in the help of Tommy who in turn calls Tremolo for help.

 

[Darkwen]

DAMN what if side girls get a true ending

 

[WolfmanBR]

I just want to comment on these crimes you mention, because I think you are blowing things a bit out of proportion.
Sex trafficking means the use of some sort of force, fraud or coercion, which is not the case. What Quinn does is simply pimping, which is quite different.
Drug trafficking is quite a broad term, but in the end Quinn is a street-level dealer for stuff like weed and shrooms, not El Chapo.
Sexual exploitation: not the case, as mentioned, only pimping.
Blackmail: I don't know where you even get that from. The restaurant girls work in the restaurant for money, not because they are blackmailed.

If that's the case on the penal system of yout country, okey. I can't safely say that in the penal system of my country all the the aforementioned crimes would be on the police and justice radar of different levels. It all depends on the legal system.

 

[iamcomming]

Well, someone's involvement in driving someone to suicide is quite difficult to prove.
As a rule, those held accountable for such cases act very rudely, the obviousness of their actions is high, which allows us to collect a sufficient evidence base for the accusation.
Such people who act in such a manner often suffer from some forms of mental disorders themselves.
I cannot accept the example you gave as an argument.
Because driving to suicide requires systematic and rude psychological influence on the victim, which can really drive some people to a state of despair.
But when I said "manipulations" I meant something completely different.
You are simply exaggerating and using an inappropriate example.

but we dont need any proving/evidence, since we have a confession in ep11.
if you compare Sage and nothing the form of mental disorder isnt Sage's. Sage is glad, while nothing feels and see herself as a parasite.
i think Rio is in despair now. she can stand up, she can hit and yell. i would say it is rather mental instead of physically.
she just sit in a dark room without any social interaction to anyone.
as you can not accept the example, i can not accept it would be inappropirate example.

but sure it is exaggerating. i usually love larging up things, because peoples are more sensitive for bigger stuff.
if i steal 1 dollar, nobody cares, if i steal a phone or something expensive, somebody would care.

the best part, morally there is no difference between little manipulation and big manipulation. because we are speaking over the fact of the manipulation, not measure of the manipulation. the measure of the crime has relation with the measure of the punishment.
you know, if i steal 1 apple, i go in prison for 1 year. if i steal 10 apple, i go in prison for 10 year. (yes it is another example what most people would call unappropriate, but i think you can understand what the example want to say)

i think, at this point we reached a common point. we agreed the society takes the responsibility on the manipulator at this big example and arresting the manipulator. i do the same even the little manipulation cases. what makes all of this kind of thing like "free-will" or "power of say - duck off" is just miscommunication/lie/making excuses what blames Rio instead of the real accountable person, nothing.

everyone is free to think i am wrong. (and/or crazy ) you too. doesnt change anything, i just drew a parallel with a larger case. out of the international legal system. the measure never will change the responsibility.

regards.

 

[WolfmanBR]

Blaming the victim is always an excuse for predators, for the "strong-minded" types or for the "born-so-intelligent-they-never-did-anything-they-didn't-want-to-do-because-since-birth-they-know-how-to-say-fuck-off-and-have-even-said-so-much-to-their-parents" types.

We have among us the pinnacle of homo sapiens evolution, ladies and gentlemen. Let's take bow me bathe in his greatness!!!

 

[Roger-a-Dale]

Yes we are ignoring the point of there being a different manager because we do not know, so may have started with Quinn, may have started with a different person. Tomato To-mato.

Now to explain my point:
Sage could not have been president until maybe second or third year according to Tommy's flashback when Sage says about her position and how she won't break the partying with the jocks on her first term. The election is used as a point because that would mean Sage would know about it whether intentionally or unintentionally and currently, she doesn't know that her hot sisters are being pimped out. Also the election is pointed out because Sage could have found out unintentionally whether by listening to other hots or walking in on a transaction like the way Lily did.

So that supports why the restaurant did not exist until Quinn came along and Stephen found the perfect person to run the shady operation with Quinn handling the rest and lying to Sage about the origins of the funds.

Sage became president at the start of her second year. The election would have happened at the end of her first year. That is to say before any of the current members aside from Sage herself and possibly Arieth had gotten into B&R.

You insist that Sage would have found out about the restaurant during her campaign, but you have no basis for this claim. I pointed out to you that Stephen could have ordered the restaurant girls to vote for Sage and persuade others to do the same. If her opponent was involved in the restaurant forcing the issue would have been even easier. How well Sage knew the girls is absolutely meaningless. And even if Stephen didn't rig the election Sage might have simply have been a better choice than her opponent. It is not necessary for her to know her sisters. It's the opposite. She would have gotten their votes by getting them to know her. That's how all elections are won. The voters vote for the candidate they believe will do a better job.

Your insisting that the truth would have gotten out ignores the fact that for at least a year it hasn't gotten out. If it can stay hidden for a whole year it can stay hidden for two. Or three. Or five. Or several decades. All those years predate Quinn getting cocky, which is why the truth is about to get out. And strictly speaking the truth has not gotten out yet. The story might be playable in a way that Sage never finds out. It would be anticlimactic if Sage can never find out no matter what you choose, but it is not impossible that her finding out will depend on player choices.