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Why is this lowkey... hot af?Pregnant Jill
Maybe 'cuz then I could just... Nah I don't think I can say this here...
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Maybe 'cuz then I could just... Nah I don't think I can say this here...
It seems to me that a lot of the issue with Zoey does come from the timing, particularly for people playing the game during the long development cycle.
If you first played somewhere during Season 2, it's relatively easy to miss the introduction of Zoey back in Episode 3 (if memory serves) and spend years of real time focused on the on-campus women, meaning she comes out of nowhere for the Interlude and then spends about three years of real time catching back up with the existing women in terms of intimacy/relationship. If memory serves, as of the end of Episode 11, she still hasn't had a sex scene that wasn't set before she went to chase the surf.
With the current version of the game, where it's a few hours from Zoey's first mention to her backstory interlude and dramatic return, and a few more hours to her being an option for official relationship, it's a very different experience to when it was a few years betwen milestones for her. And with the finished game, she's going to be an active part of it for roughly half of it.
EEMNHMQI
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Because you're the resident fetish/weird sex connoisseur. But you're right.
I agree. You could just...
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LMAO this brings me with a question now seeing rusty.Because you're the resident fetish/weird sex connoisseur. But you're right.
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I agree. You could just...
Why didn't DPC allow us to name our last name as burgmeister? Something points to MC's mom being part of the burgmeister
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Same reason we can't be a Royce, or Taylor, or fucking Armstrong, Neil obviously isn't any of those.LMAO this brings me with a question now seeing rusty.
Why didn't DPC allow us to name our last name as burgmeister? Something points to MC's mom being part of the burgmeister
But yeah, mom's side is where the campus royalty comes from.
Moni23
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Why add Zoey to the game and not make her a romantic interest? This is the dumbest decision you could make.
So, Zoey is a criminal because she wants the protagonist for herself. She has self-respect, and she doesn't want to be a second or third girl. How dare she? I'm forced to repeat what has been said in this thread about 1,000 times, but you still don't understand. This game will never be a harem.
The only thing I agree with you on is that the paths where the MC leaves LI and returns to Zoey are bad paths. But I don't think DPC made a mistake when they decided to create them. The game needs to have "bad" paths. Do you want all the endings to be good, where the MC is a friend to everyone, and the only difference is which girl they choose? That's up to you, but I don't want a game where I'm guaranteed to win regardless of the decisions I make.
Now about the "other" path:
1) Zoey returns in episode 9. At this point, the MC has not yet established strong connections with the SGs. If, after episode 9, where Zoey receives significant development, the player decides that Zoey is now their top priority and they do not want to engage in drama, they may choose not to continue with the paths of Lily, Riona, Nicole, and others. This prevents the drama of broken relationships, as there are no existing relationships in the "others" path at the beginning of episode 10.
2) If the player continued the SG's path and returned to Zoey, he would get drama, but honestly, I don't think he did anything wrong. Lily, Quinn, Riona, and others had enough time to tell the MC that they wanted a real relationship. They didn't, but Zoey did. They can only blame themselves.
That's a strange question. All the canonical lines will go their own way, the degree of involvement of the player in them will depend on the route he is on, as it always has been. Example: You can't participate fully in the drug storyline if you're on Jill's route. But the plot continues anyway.
It's funny that you constantly criticize Zoey for destroying relationships, but I've never seen you criticize Josy or Bianca for doing the same (even though they're also backstabbing their friends).
This is your best argument. Why couldn't DPC just make a game with 5 LIs and 6 endings that's 10 episodes long? I'm sure everyone would have enjoyed it.
I apologize in advance if the translator has translated something incorrectly. Unfortunately, I am too lazy to learn english.
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Damn rip to anyone who wanted to roleplay as an Armstrong LOL
Im excited to see that reveal
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I wonder if one of the episode cliffhangers could happen in the diary.
>Tremolo is reading the diary
>He gets to a point where something is about to be revealed in the past
>Cut back to Tremolo freaking out about what he has read in the present
>Alternatively, also show the player what the reveal is like they did with the Burke pictures reveal at the end of season 2
End of season 3
Would probably be pretty lame if they didn't show us because its similar to the locked room reaction ending...
>Tremolo is reading the diary
>He gets to a point where something is about to be revealed in the past
>Cut back to Tremolo freaking out about what he has read in the present
>Alternatively, also show the player what the reveal is like they did with the Burke pictures reveal at the end of season 2
End of season 3
Would probably be pretty lame if they didn't show us because its similar to the locked room reaction ending...
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1) Introduced way too late.
2) Nothing wrong with making her a side girl.
3) She destroys the entire point of the game up to that point.
4) Too much focus for 0 content.
5) Not playing the role of the Old Flame properly, and instead is just there. Makes the MC cry on first meeting.
She's a horrible function within the story. Her character is fine.
How dare she literally break up a relationship. I guess you'd think differently if MC was married, or engaged? It's the same concept. She breaks up relationships because she wants one. How is that self-respectful? "Hey old friend and lover I took completely for granted in the past!"
Due to the nature of Crossroads and the content from the previous chapters, she has no regard for your past with other girls. Only her own.
I don't really care if this game does or doesn't become a harem.
He did. There are ways to bring back the Old Flame trope. Make her a seductress. Make her nefarious, or the opposite. Make it a mutual experience. Or a rekindling with a fizzle; that would give Zoey something to do which is core to her. For one, have them go on some kind of a redemption arc. Instead, she just sits around being friendly, because we need to shoe horn her in here. She's not even a student. Then there's having a panic attack. If Zoey is so mature and a complete character as she appears in the Interlude, she'd be understanding of MC and his happiness. Instead, she asks him to ruin his own and another, all for her selfish desires. "Oh, I made a mistake!" Yes, you did, and this crap don't fly in a story about a slice of life college experience. She just shows up and demands a take back. It's like 99% of the experience goes down the tubes. Childish.
Are we playing some other game here?
Is not DPC lauded as some great storyteller?
While it's true you don't have to do many things for many of the MGs (helping Bella paint her fence, practicing Jill's music so you can save her at her recital, etc.), this is the equivalent of not playing the game. The assumption being you said no to everything optional.
For a story about relationships and romance, it's quite odd to not...choose romantic experiences. It's like you have to be "playing video games wrong" or something.
You mean on the Others path? No kidding. See: breaking up the MGs.
Quite sure there's plenty of drama on Others path before Zoey, so yes, Zoey is destroying whatever SG girl the MC is with (Nicole, Lily, Quinn, Riona, Jade, etc.)
"It's not Zoey's fault. It's everyone else's!"
Quite a bit of difference between canon plots with MGs, and optional romanced girls stories, so I don't see your point.
Methinks you should read about my Searing Hatred of Josy.
Josy blows up her own relationship because wah. Zoey blows up everyone's.
But please, try to attack my character more. I hear that's an effective argument method.
No, you're just a Zoey fanboy. You know she's forced into the story for melodrama. A whole Interlude for 2 variables. Pure $$$$$ grab. She's a horrible person for what she did, and wants, and )for whatever reason) you can choose to make her a DIK, even worse. It's not just what she does, it's a) how (too late, too uncaring), b) when (worse with DIK), c) and in what capacity (playing catch up, not being fully aware of her feelings, not thinking of MCs feelings), d) destroying everything (the Crossroads choice. d is more of a DPC issue, since he has no clue WTF he's doing, and just playing it by feeling.)
If she was only an option on the Others path, that would be different.
The funny thing: DPC's probably going to allow you to break up with Zoey for some other Other girl. Some new girl he'll make as an option. It's more melodramatic nonsense. Whereas Crossroads forced you down a path, Zoey just resets all that. Because of hamfisted melodrama...but with a bomb.
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Interlude 2 is one long ass reading session of the diary and we effectively play it from Lynette's point of view. Certain details of the past become a matter of player choices.I wonder if one of the episode cliffhangers could happen in the diary.
>Tremolo is reading the diary
>He gets to a point where something is about to be revealed in the past
>Cut back to Tremolo freaking out about what he has read in the present
>Alternatively, also show the player what the reveal is like they did with the Burke pictures reveal at the end of season 2
End of season 3
Would probably be pretty lame if they didn't show us because its similar to the locked room reaction ending...
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Or Diamond. Or Neil
like, I remember Milton posting every possibility/variable for MC's last name, so I did try all variables and they are indeed hilarious now I just stick with Miller for ease of skipping sooner.
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Hold it right there Geralt! This will lead to Zoey being evicted from grarg's head! She hasn't actually gotten into B&R yet. Where is she going to live in the mean time?
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A commendable desire to help suffering people.
These are her first steps in Greta Thunberg's footsteps.
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Yes, the rent prices are very high, but she lives rent-free now.
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Yes, the rent prices are very high, but she lives rent-free now.
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What do you want it to look like?
"Are you in a relationship? Then I'm sorry, I won't bother you, I'll go fuck Jacob or someone else."
Do you want a game like this? This is an AVN. Almost all the girls in the game want the MC. They will leave their partners, they will cheat on their husbands, and they will betray their friends. This is the law of games in this genre. It's strange that I have to explain such obvious things.
If you think I think DPC is a good writer, that's not true. There are a lot of things in the story that I don't like. I just don't complain about it every week.
I was talking about how Quinn, Riona, Lily, and the others in episode 9 are still far from the "relationship" stage. There won't be any drama unless the player decides to create it by continuing to date them, even though he already knows that he will return to Zoey in the future.
I'm not interested in Sage, Josy, Maya, Jill, and Bella. You know, it happens. That's why there's a "others" path in the game. Different people have different preferences.
I have no problem with that. I'll just tell her no, and I won't be angry with her.
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There probably are some drawbacks to living in grarg's head but rent-free is one big plus.Yes, the rent prices are very high, but she lives rent-free now.
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That is freaking SmurfSmurfing the smurf out of her smurf.
Its simple, if Sage doesn't like her than I don't like her
BRANDI FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY!
Its criminal that we still haven't gotten to fuck her.