VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Vega101]

Just a friendly reminder that Nora as an LI is completely pointless and derivative. She repeats the already occupied three! scenario niches for teacher/student relationships and offers nothing unique. Each of these paths plays a role: Bella is the classic student/teacher with serious challenges and threats, dark secrets from the past and psychological issues, and feeling young and desirable again. Jade is the path of cheating and disaster, Cathy is lust and fuckbuddies.
While the only thing that makes sense about Nora is the funny scene with the cat:
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"efficient" develompent, but seems when it comes to Nora, for some individuals it is:

With all talks about Jacob, whether being "bad" bro coz of Zoey and Camilla, or even assumptions that he is a traitor(idc and have no hate towards him) seems like Carla will be the lewd target.

Dude, you got everyone mixed up. Heather, not Camilla. Clara, not Carla.

Of all the dorm members, I like Mia (the flight attendant) the most in appearance.
Alady Alady

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

I'd rather play the game and find out the ending than wait.
Even if the entire plot is told in text without animation.
Who knows what will happen after five years of development.
Why has this become the norm for AVN? Other game genres aren't developed like this. It's crazy to spend 11 years developing a game with so many Patreons. If so many people want to support it, maybe DPC should put their own personal preferences aside and at least hire someone to press the render button in Blender?

I'll express an unpopular opinion. Maybe it's technically too early to create games with 50 characters on screen. Even a 5090 graphics card, according to him, can't handle it and crashed three times while rendering a large scene. And who needs these scenes in 4K?
I was perfectly happy with the image quality of seasons one or two.
Why waste several days on a scene that the player will watch for a maximum of five seconds and then move on?

If you like the AVN genre, how can new developers compete with developers like DPC? They've been given a whole computer farm for rendering. Judging by their last post, they can't even keep up with creating scenes for rendering.

Was the CUM-petition scene bad because the supporting characters were blurry?
Or has anyone ever chosen a scary scene for Halloween more than once?
I'm just tired of waiting.
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A bit of technical nerdiness. He reported that the render was crashing on RTX4090. The reason was a lack of memory (24GB). He previously used RTX3090, and it rendered twice as slowly, but there's one catch: these cards supported NVLink, so he could use two graphics cards together on a single PC, giving him 48GB of memory. DAZ is very memory-hungry, and in scenes with several dozen characters, that's a problem for 4090, because NVLink is no longer supported. So he ended up with very fast GPUs, but large scenes are now a problem, forcing him to split the render in two and render a single frame in parts. RTX5090 should partially solve this problem with larger memory (32GB).
But if you want ultra-professional rendering, you need the $10,000 Ada RTX. Fuck Huang.

Things are even more interesting in the CUM-Petition scene. He had a GTX1080ti back then, and it would never have been able to render this scene if it weren't for... look at the characters in the background. They're flat. He replaced the models with sprites, which can be done in the app. (confirmed by DPC)
Visually, it certainly looks terrible, plus there's that grain.

 

[treechild1]

I like how in this game some simple choices actually affect your MC’s stats (even though they probably shouldn’t, I think). For example, if you choose to support him here, the game literally takes away a bit of your DIK affinity. So just by trying to stay human and show some empathy, you lose the chance to be a massive DIK. It doesn’t really make much sense and doesn’t affect the rest of the story much, but there’s something about it that hits different.

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Did you have time to come up with any songs? No pressure to do so, just curious.

 

[DIKHammer]

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Dude, you got everyone mixed up. Heather, not Camilla. Clara, not Carla.

Of all the dorm members, I like Mia (the flight attendant) the most in appearance.
Alady Alady
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Dormies Rankings

 

[grarg]

Given that you keep referring to yourself as "we" now...

You quite clearly don't have a clue about AVN development and every suggestion you've made is quite simply awful. Amazingly enough most people here would prefer a game be excellent than looking like fucking garbage "efficient".

Quite sure I used the word "I".

But what do I know about what I actually wrote?

What, you think my opinions aren't shared? You think I haven't read other criticisms? Apparently, you never have.

I quite clearly have no idea what your clues about AVN dev is. Working Ren'Py is fairly basic. 3D software is demanding, highly technical, and creative. I've worked with many more complex systems than Ren'Py and Daz3D.

Believe it or not chief, not all AI art is bad. As I've said, go check out the BaD fan art threat. Your opinion on optics or criticism of animating a scene is irrelevant when you have no standards aside from "I want quality", without explaining what that is.

I could explain the concept of quality vs speed vs cost, but I doubt that would register.

I could explain rates of hiring ANYONE for ANY position, but you don't care.

It's like communicating to a child. DPC can do no wrong. Everything he does is great. He doesn't need any help. Everything he does is efficient and makes sense.

Oh wait, it's not efficient; it's high quality! I'm okay with quality so long as this game takes 10 years.

Grow up.

 

[Better Cock Spock]

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Arieth would have a wrong opinion like that

Dormies Rankings

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Where the fuck is Cinderella? You have the yellow-eyed demon girl on there but not Cindy? And why is Yellow Eyes so high

 

[grey_shadow]

So, 20 renders a day, working 10 hour days, would be half an hour per render while working 50 hour weeks.

That doesn't seem slow nor lazy to me.

 

[DIKHammer]

Where the fuck is Cinderella? You have the yellow-eyed demon girl on there but not Cindy? And why is Yellow Eyes so high

Cinderella isn't considered a "Dormie" she's an angel

 

[Better Cock Spock]

Cinderella isn't considered a "Dormie" she's an angel

Just put her at the tippy top where she belongs

 

[mangosok]

Did you have time to come up with any songs? No pressure to do so, just curious.

Oh right, I totally forgot. Hold on, gotta load my old saves and take some screenshots.

 

[legend_shon]

Btw whats the variables for Cindy? I replayed and made saves just for her, but still? Urm is too useful

 

[Better Cock Spock]

Btw whats the variables for Cindy? I replayed and made saves just for her, but still? Urm is too useful

ep9_dangerous determines if you're Mr. Danger or Mr. Teddy Bear, which you get when talking to her in Derek's closet on Halloween.

ep11_girl_leaving determines if you can run into her in the second half of the party, assuming you didn't act like a whore under the mistletoe earlier, which is triggered by ep11_girl_drink_opportunity.

 

[Darkwen]

Just put her at the tippy top where she belongs

tippy top? are you drunk?

 

[Master5043]

Grow up.

How about you take some sedatives and stop poisoning the forum with your toxicity?

 

[jd8097619]

Quite sure I used the word "I".

You didn't use "I".

We are showing how his efficiency has decreased.

And we are reminding everyone he is doing it all himself. Which is why it's a Bloated Milk Machine.

Believe it or not chief, not all AI art is bad. As I've said, go check out the BaD fan art threat. Your opinion on optics or criticism of animating a scene is irrelevant when you have no standards aside from "I want quality", without explaining what that is.

The AI fan art is mediocre at best and it's only able to maintain that level because it's trying to copy the far higher-quality renders made by DPC that you so immensely hate, and the worst ones immediately see the characters de-age or morph in real time as they try to turn into whatever other videos they're trained on.

It's like communicating to a child. DPC can do no wrong. Everything he does is great. He doesn't need any help. Everything he does is efficient and makes sense.

Oh wait, it's not efficient; it's high quality! I'm okay with quality so long as this game takes 10 years.

Dude I've criticised DPC and BaDIK plenty. What I haven't done is seemingly lost my mind posting increasingly angry, ranting comments such as how one character is "THE DESTROYER" and how DPC isn't very good at making AVNs... despite them making probably the most well-regarded AVN out there...

Just chill the fuck out man.

 

[Roger-a-Dale]

In what way ? Well if you are not a traitor for example and everybody is suspecting you and you know you didn't do anything plus you are Alone among this group of people and you have all their secrets yet you don't spread them and you are emotional about some chick that other dude is banging and yet again you are loyal but you had a moment of weakness and banged that chick and now they gang up on you for it and the rest is revealed, what would you do here ? And if that is not cornered than i know nothing lol.

And his last words were i should have left early sealed the deal for me because he dosint believe in their friendship anymore.
Nick is not good but he is ok actually.

Thats simple logic.. it might not be pretty but it comes wirh a soul Haha.

Which DIKs showed they actually suspected Nick of treachery? And how did they show it?

 

[jd8097619]

I'd rather play the game and find out the ending than wait.
Even if the entire plot is told in text without animation.
Who knows what will happen after five years of development.
Why has this become the norm for AVN? Other game genres aren't developed like this. It's crazy to spend 11 years developing a game with so many Patreons. If so many people want to support it, maybe DPC should put their own personal preferences aside and at least hire someone to press the render button in Blender?

I'll express an unpopular opinion. Maybe it's technically too early to create games with 50 characters on screen. Even a 5090 graphics card, according to him, can't handle it and crashed three times while rendering a large scene. And who needs these scenes in 4K?
I was perfectly happy with the image quality of seasons one or two.
Why waste several days on a scene that the player will watch for a maximum of five seconds and then move on?

If you like the AVN genre, how can new developers compete with developers like DPC? They've been given a whole computer farm for rendering. Judging by their last post, they can't even keep up with creating scenes for rendering.

Was the CUM-petition scene bad because the supporting characters were blurry?
Or has anyone ever chosen a scary scene for Halloween more than once?
I'm just tired of waiting.
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So what? Long development timelines are the norm now in every part of the industry. It's only sports titles that are now annual (and those are basically just roster updates) while everything else takes years.

People saying "DPC should hire people" don't seem to understand that isn't going to make a lick of difference because the main timesink is creating and then waiting for scenes to render. Waiting for animations to finish rendering has been the main pinchpoint for three episodes now. Also you might've noticed that even in AVNs created by teams the level of content isn't that much different yet doesn't exactly come out faster because most teams have a singular "artist" to ensure a consistent design and they still have to wait for that to be rendered. It's the same even in 2D hand drawn stuff where games like Our Red String and Seeds of Chaos take a million years because of art.

Also you raise the number of patreon subs as somehow being why DPC should stop doing what they're doing when that makes no sense because those subscribers have subscribed because of the product DPC's workflow has resulted in. You seem to be under a somewhat false impression that DPC chopping down on their vision in the name of "delivering quicker" would somehow still deliver the same experience when it likely wouldn't.

 

[mangosok]

Did you have time to come up with any songs? No pressure to do so, just curious.

Alright, as many of us know, the music/scene pairings in this game are often amazingly wonderful and almost downright iconic. Let's play a game.
Post an image or two of a scene(s) that has an amazing song that went with it (or a character), scenes and songs that linger in your head long after you shut the game off. Post your answer to the titles of the songs (or links to the actual song from youtube). Then, post your own challenge for us to guess. (Please stick to 2 or 3 different scenes to give others a chance to post their favorites).
I'll start you off easy. Have fun and good luck!

Didn’t even have to look for saves, lol (thanks, BaDIK wiki).
The first song fits the scene perfectly. That’s probably why it stuck with me.
Such psychedelic vibes. Total chill in the middle of all the chaos going on around.
Though the song doesn’t really have lyrics, just a few lines.
Song 1: "...I feel it, though I do not see it."



And the second one (kinda easy). The moment is awesome, but I’d redo this scene because DAZ3D models sometimes give off an uncanny valley vibe.
Song 2: "...The lonely sun is shining bright..."



I also wanted to post Anthony’s dance too, but it's not so funny already, I guess

 

[Vega101]

Arieth would have a wrong opinion like that
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Where the fuck is Cinderella? You have the yellow-eyed demon girl on there but not Cindy? And why is Yellow Eyes so high

Cinderella S Tier
Judging by the fact that she took $20 with her, she doesn't live in the dorm. That could have been money for the trip home.

 

[jd8097619]

"efficient" develompent, but seems when it comes to Nora, for some individuals it is:

I really don't get how someone who simps a character from this game so fucking hard can also hate basically every part of the process that led to that character so fucking hard as well.