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But Rio knew this. Quinn literally told her that she was taking advantage of her. And Rio is neither younger nor dumber than Quinn. She knew, or at least should have known, what she was getting into. You can't absolve her from all responsibility. She willingly went along with Quinn, knowing full well who Quinn was and what she was doing.
Are you really blaming Riona for being taken advantage of, abused and manipulated? Is this what you'd say if a person comes to you telling you that someone has been treating them the way Quinn has been treating Riona? "You should've known better"?

Riona is clearly a very unassertive and submissive person with very low self-esteem. She's like an extreme version of a people-pleaser; she'd do everything Quinn says even to her own detriment. Also, she trusted Quinn and she wasn't as open with Riona about everything as you claim. Riona told her multiple times about the van that was following her and Quinn coldly dismissed her and Riona ended up being correct.

Quinn has physically abused Riona, she's been constantly telling her how dumb she is, how much she depends on her and how she wouldn't even be in college if it weren't for the free tuition (and we know that's not true based on the conversation between Riona and Cammy when she says that she's passing all her classes, or almost all of them, I don't remember).

Quinn herself admits to Tremolo that she's been doing all these things on purpose. You can't just say that Riona should've known better.
 
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This week, I focused on creating art for some special scenes in the big free-roam event. One of which required a lot of work because I was working with 50+ characters in the same scene - at one point, I stopped counting them and just worked through the scene. I completed that scene two days ago and have since been working on other, easier scenes.

I have 15 scenes left to create in the free roam event - about half of them need writing. There are some lewd scenes in the mix, too, and those won't be as fast to create as the rest. But I feel I'm close to completing the free roam, and I'm starting to plan what content to work on next.

When it's time to move on from the free roam event, I'll try to summarize what branches and kinds of content I have left to create for the episode.

The long cutscene animation I've been talking about in the recent updates is now 95% finished. Only two PCs are rendering the remaining two animations, so the last 5% of frames will take longer to render because fewer PCs are working on them. Still, the cutscene should finish rendering soon. The other PCs are working on other animations and static renders.

234 static renders and 14 animations are in the render queue. The animation count is running low, and I will animate some more in the upcoming weeks. I still have lewd scenes left to create and plenty of other planned animations that I'm excited to pose.

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Freaking Christmas sneaked up on us, and it's now around the corner. I have scheduled some time off with my family. I'll be off on December 24, 26, and 31, and will work as usual the rest of the time. I plan to update you on the development progress as usual on Fridays.

I wish all of you who celebrate happy holidays! Stay safe and cherish the time you spend with your loved ones.

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Man, that reminded me of the DJ name I heard while ago. DJ Osama Spinladin :KEK:
 

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Incompetent is probably the wrong word, yes, but I think she genuinely underestimated Buddy. Overconfidence and underestimating adversaties are two sides of the same coin, and underestimating usually comes from some form of ignorance, from not knowing better.
I think what she underestimated was Buddy's attachment to her and therefore underestimated how he would treat her. I feel like she thought he wouldn't be harsh with her, that he certainly wouldn't harm or threaten physical violence on her or those around her. She obviously had the impression that he wasn't a violent and dangerous person which is obviously proved to not be true.

But Rio knew this. Quinn literally told her that she was taking advantage of her. And Rio is neither younger nor dumber than Quinn. She knew, or at least should have known, what she was getting into. You can't absolve her from all responsibility. She willingly went along with Quinn, knowing full well who Quinn was and what she was doing.
What Quinn told her was that she was charging her more for drugs, she never outright told her, "I'm just using you for my own gain". She forgave Quinn for charging her more, something I could see her having chalked up as, "Hey, we all have to make ends meet", or something along those lines, and Quinn hated that Rio gave her a pass on that. Quinn took this as Rio being OK with anything because Rio really wanted to be Quinn's friend and Quinn took advantage of this vulnerability in her. Quinn even described her as, "a goth gullible girl without a father figure", which pretty much explains why Rio was desperate for some companionship. So it's not like Rio was outright told she was being used and didn't care, she was just seeking Quinn's approval because of a desperate need for connection to another human being which made her vulnerable to manipulation of that feeling and that can cloud a person's judgment. So I do feel that people like this deserve a bit more leeway because their vulnerabilities and emotional needs were preyed upon.

Rio said that in the immediate anger after what happened. That's completely understandable, but must always be taken with a huge grain of salt. I think it's inevitable that they meet again; they are living under the same roof after all. Also, MC could relay a message if necessary, plus, texts exist. I doubt Quinn is just going to disappear. She is too important a character for that.
Even if they do meet again, I think Rio will still be pissed at her and still want nothing to do with her. She's woken up to the reality of how Quinn was using her and preying on her need for friendship, but going to college had Rio form other attachments with other people which I believe is what was contributing to her having a change of heart before this incident happened and after it's happened she realises how real friends are supposed to be and that Quinn is not a real friend to her. But that meeting, if it happens, probably isn't going to be because they "live under the same roof" since Quinn is probably all but gone from the college now and I don't see her going back there. College is probably over for Quinn now

She has a gigantic reason not to: what she did was illegal, too. You generally don't want to tell everybody that you've been dealing drugs. She MIGHT tell Sage, but I don't know if they are close enough. Also, what would that get her? Very little.
What it gets her is unburdening herself by coming clean. I think the least she'll do is tell Sage if not all the HOTs, or the other girls find out later after she's spoken to Sage, but this isn't really something she should keep covered up and keep running cover for Quinn over. From a story perspective, Sage needs to know at some point and I'd say that point is now because when Rio returns she's still looking a bit battered and bruised, as we've seen from the preview, and I don't think it does her or the story any good not to admit what actually happened and why. She has no loyalty to Quinn anymore and no need to protect her secrets, and I also think Sage will be forgiving of Rio so long as she is totally honest about why she felt so attached to Quinn that she did all this, how sorry she is for doing it, and just the general fact of what happened to her and what she's been through.
 
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Aaand since 18 months is 78 weeks we'd get a release in September about 3/4 of a year from now.
Except the thing is it's 30 seconds of animation even without every machine working on it. So the idea it'd take to September because of animations still doesn't make sense because it'd be even faster if those were all that remained.
 
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Are you really blaming Riona for being taken advantage of, abused and manipulated? Is this what you'd say if a person comes to you telling you that someone has been treating them the way Quinn has been treating Riona? "You should've known better"?

Riona is clearly a very unassertive and submissive person with very low self-esteem. She's like an extreme version of a people-pleaser; she'd do everything Quinn says even to her own detriment. Also, she trusted Quinn and she wasn't as open with Riona about everything as you claim. Riona told her multiple times about the van that was following her and Quinn coldly dismissed her and Riona ended up being correct.

Quinn has physically abused Riona, she's been constantly telling her how dumb she is, how much she depends on her and how she wouldn't even be in college if it weren't for the free tuition (and we know that's not true based on the conversation between Riona and Cammy when she says that she's passing all her classes, or almost all of them, I don't remember).

Quinn herself admits to Tremolo that she's been doing all these things on purpose. You can't just say that Riona should've known better.
I'm not blaming her for getting abused, that's on Buddy, but I am saying she is partially responsible for being taken advantage of, yes. And if somebody came to me and told me a story like that, I would be asking: "Why didn't you just say no and walk away?"
Because being a "people-pleaser"is not an excuse. You can't play victim if haven't even tried to stand up for yourself. If you are being taken advantage of, and there isn't some sort of significant disparity in age, power or intelligence or some sort of leverage (neither of which was the case here), then, I'm sorry to say it, but then you've got to blame yourself. If you are an adult, you've got behave like one, you've got to stand up for yourself. You've got to learn to say "No". If Rio would've said "No Quinn, I don't want any part in your drug deals." and walked away, there would've been NOTHING Quinn could've done.
Yes, Rio trusted Quinn. She CHOSE to trust Quinn. She thought Quinn could keep her save. Quinn trusted herself, and thought she could keep Rio save. Neither of which worked out. They both made mistakes. It's been known to happen.

I'm not saying what Quinn did was in any way nice or even ok. It wasn't. But blaming everything on her is just nonsense. I'm not going to insult Riona by infantilizing her and taking all agency away from her. She knew what she was getting into, and made a choice.
 

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Sage is definitely finding out about Quinn and Riona's side business next episode. If the episode title "Smoke and Fire" is (partly or wholly) referring to the saying "where there's smoke, there's fire", it's going to be in reference to the free tuition rumours surrounding the HOTs.
 
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I think what she underestimated was Buddy's attachment to her and therefore underestimated how he would treat her. I feel like she thought he wouldn't be harsh with her, that he certainly wouldn't harm or threaten physical violence on her or those around her. She obviously had the impression that he wasn't a violent and dangerous person which is obviously proved to not be true.
100 % agreed.
What Quinn told her was that she was charging her more for drugs, she never outright told her, "I'm just using you for my own gain". She forgave Quinn for charging her more, something I could see her having chalked up as, "Hey, we all have to make ends meet", or something along those lines, and Quinn hated that Rio gave her a pass on that. Quinn took this as Rio being OK with anything because Rio really wanted to be Quinn's friend and Quinn took advantage of this vulnerability in her. Quinn even described her as, "a goth gullible girl without a father figure", which pretty much explains why Rio was desperate for some companionship. So it's not like Rio was outright told she was being used and didn't care, she was just seeking Quinn's approval because of a desperate need for connection to another human being which made her vulnerable to manipulation of that feeling and that can cloud a person's judgment. So I do feel that people like this deserve a bit more leeway because their vulnerabilities and emotional needs were preyed upon.
I mean, technically true, but still: Fool me once...
I agree with your description of Rio's background and psychology. It explains her actions. But you could say the same for Quinn: her father instilled her with "trust noone, look out only for yourself" her entire, short, childhood. In the end, we all have psychological baggage that might lead us to fuck up sometimes. But you can't just hide behind it. You've still got to take responsibility.
Even if they do meet again, I think Rio will still be pissed at her and still want nothing to do with her. She's woken up to the reality of how Quinn was using her and preying on her need for friendship, but going to college had Rio form other attachments with other people which I believe is what was contributing to her having a change of heart before this incident happened and after it's happened she realises how real friends are supposed to be and that Quinn is not a real friend to her. But that meeting, if it happens, probably isn't going to be because they "live under the same roof" since Quinn is probably all but gone from the college now and I don't see her going back there. College is probably over for Quinn now
Maybe, maybe not. I disagree on some points, but in the end it's just speculation. We've got to wait and see.
What it gets her is unburdening herself by coming clean. I think the least she'll do is tell Sage if not all the HOTs, or the other girls find out later after she's spoken to Sage, but this isn't really something she should keep covered up and keep running cover for Quinn over. From a story perspective, Sage needs to know at some point and I'd say that point is now because when Rio returns she's still looking a bit battered and bruised, as we've seen from the preview, and I don't think it does her or the story any good not to admit what actually happened and why. She has no loyalty to Quinn anymore and no need to protect her secrets, and I also think Sage will be forgiving of Rio so long as she is totally honest about why she felt so attached to Quinn that she did all this, how sorry she is for doing it, and just the general fact of what happened to her and what she's been through.
Again, maybe. Disagree on some points. We'll see.
 
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