VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Moni23]

The "Others" branch itself means you're choosing not to commit to a relationship until the end of the year. This means the MC will, with a clear conscience, pursue romance with Zoey and then go to Pink Pose the next day.

But that's not true. On the "others'" path, the game already limits the player's actions. In episode 10, he has to choose between Nicole and Nora; in episode 11, he chooses between Nicole and Lily, and I'm sure that won't be the final choice. As for Zoey, I think returning to her immediately closes off all the others' paths. After my MC returned to Zoey, He received a flirtatious message from Camilla. And he automatically replies with something like, "I don't think we can now." I think this means that the MC now considers himself "in a relationship," and he will reject other girls, just like the MC does after the choice in episode 8. And yes, if you're back with Zoey and planning to go on a date with Nicole, it's going to hurt.
As for the paths where the MC abandons the MG and returns to Zoey... well, if DPC thought it was too much work, he wouldn't have created those paths. As has already been said here, Zoey's return was planned from the very beginning, and now DPC is simply following his plan. I think the MC will reveal his decision only at the end of the episode. Players might not even see the consequences, and the final scene on these paths will be the moment when the MC enters the room to tell his now ex-girlfriend that he's decided to leave her (or them) and return to Zoey. Then, of course, they'll hate him and stop communicating. And I think that regardless of which girl the MC dumped, he'll lose the friendship of the entire main five. They'll still be involved in the story, and players will see canonical scenes, but nothing more. Nothing is impossible for the DPC here. In fact, it's not much different from what we're currently seeing on the "others'" path. In episode 11, the MC doesn't have much interaction with the MG on this path. For example, he only speaks to Jill once, at the beginning of the episode. I don't think it would be a big deal for DPC to create paths where the MC completely stops communicating with Josy, Maya, Sage, Jill, and Bella.

 

[MattoElias]

How far into development is the next episode/update?

 

[Jayfcsp]

How far into development is the next episode/update?

~60 % complete

 

[Michael_MAN]

Tybalt's favourite Christmas bauble

 

[El_Magnifico]

~60 % complete

He announced 60 % a few weeks ago. Now it's probably 63 %

 

[dalli_x]

But that's not true. On the "others'" path, the game already limits the player's actions. In episode 10, he has to choose between Nicole and Nora; in episode 11, he chooses between Nicole and Lily, and I'm sure that won't be the final choice. As for Zoey, I think returning to her immediately closes off all the others' paths. After my MC returned to Zoey, He received a flirtatious message from Camilla. And he automatically replies with something like, "I don't think we can now." I think this means that the MC now considers himself "in a relationship," and he will reject other girls, just like the MC does after the choice in episode 8. And yes, if you're back with Zoey and planning to go on a date with Nicole, it's going to hurt.
As for the paths where the MC abandons the MG and returns to Zoey... well, if DPC thought it was too much work, he wouldn't have created those paths. As has already been said here, Zoey's return was planned from the very beginning, and now DPC is simply following his plan. I think the MC will reveal his decision only at the end of the episode. Players might not even see the consequences, and the final scene on these paths will be the moment when the MC enters the room to tell his now ex-girlfriend that he's decided to leave her (or them) and return to Zoey. Then, of course, they'll hate him and stop communicating. And I think that regardless of which girl the MC dumped, he'll lose the friendship of the entire main five. They'll still be involved in the story, and players will see canonical scenes, but nothing more. Nothing is impossible for the DPC here. In fact, it's not much different from what we're currently seeing on the "others'" path. In episode 11, the MC doesn't have much interaction with the MG on this path. For example, he only speaks to Jill once, at the beginning of the episode. I don't think it would be a big deal for DPC to create paths where the MC completely stops communicating with Josy, Maya, Sage, Jill, and Bella.

With everything you've written, you could certainly be right. But DPC wrote "Interlude" to show us something, to give us a better understanding of future EPs.

One of the things he showed us was how things between Emma and Bret wouldn't really work. Just replace Emma with Zoey and Bret with the MC.

So it could also happen that the MC chooses Zoey, alienates pretty much all the other girls, and ends up alone.

 

[MattoElias]

~60 % complete

Thank you

 

[Moni23]

With everything you've written, you could certainly be right. But DPC wrote "Interlude" to show us something, to give us a better understanding of future EPs.

One of the things he showed us was how things between Emma and Bret wouldn't really work. Just replace Emma with Zoey and Bret with the MC.

So it could also happen that the MC chooses Zoey, alienates pretty much all the other girls, and ends up alone.

DPC wrote the Interlude to ease Zoey's inclusion into the narrative. The MC isn't Brett, and Zoey isn't Emma. By that logic, any girl could say at any moment: "I'm sorry, but I realized I don't love you anymore, and we're breaking up."

 

[Drevok]

DPC wrote the Interlude to ease Zoey's inclusion into the narrative. The MC isn't Brett, and Zoey isn't Emma. By that logic, any girl could say at any moment: "I'm sorry, but I realized I don't love you anymore, and we're breaking up."

But that's essentially what Zoey did; except the "I'm not in love with you anymore" part, because she never told him that she loved him, but that's mostly because she's allergic to talking about feelings and also, she hadn't come to terms with her feelings yet. But she still unilaterally broke a relationship without even talking. Yes, a casual relationship, but still, that's a pretty shitty thing to do to someone you supossedly care about.

Tremolo and Zoey aren't Bret and Emily, that's true, but their situations are very similar.

 

[dalli_x]

DPC wrote the Interlude to ease Zoey's inclusion into the narrative. The MC isn't Brett, and Zoey isn't Emma. By that logic, any girl could say at any moment: "I'm sorry, but I realized I don't love you anymore, and we're breaking up."

DPC himself wrote that he had to create the interlude because he wanted to give us a better understanding of future events.

It's strange that Bret said to Zoey, when Emma came back, it was like a good old song that you just hit play. That song was maybe even better. What did Zoey ask the MC? If they could hit play and continue where they left off?

I don't know if the ending between Zoey and the MC will be happy, or if it will end like the one Emma and Bret had.

 

[Drevok]

DPC himself wrote that he had to create the interlude because he wanted to give us a better understanding of future events.

It's strange that Bret said to Zoey, when Emma came back, it was like a good old song that you just hit play. That song was maybe even better. What did Zoey ask the MC? If they could hit play and continue where they left off?

I don't know if the ending between Zoey and the MC will be happy, or if it will end like the one Emma and Bret had.

I think it's pretty funny that Bret says that their relationship is even better now than before and then we see, throughout the entire interlude that it's not, they just refuse to face it. Zoey was the catalyst for both of them finally talking about it.

Bret was the last person she should ask for relationship advice, both he and Emma are so immature and bad at communicating, and they don't even have the excuse of being teenagers. In my blind/main playthough he's Mr Bad Advice: first he tells her to stop talking to Tremolo "for his own good", and then he tells her to confess her feelings to him even though he's in a relationship, and she gets rejected.

 

[Moni23]

But that's essentially what Zoey did; except the "I'm not in love with you anymore" part, because she never told him that she loved him, but that's mostly because she's allergic to talking about feelings and also, she hadn't come to terms with her feelings yet. But she still unilaterally broke a relationship without even talking. Yes, a casual relationship, but still, that's a pretty shitty thing to do to someone you supossedly care about.

Tremolo and Zoey aren't Bret and Emily, that's true, but their situations are very similar.

Everyone makes mistakes, but I believe in forgiveness and second chances. I'm convinced that adding Zoey mid-game, creating an interlude for her, making her a unique option for the MC to abandon LI for, and then making their relationship doomed to failure is a very stupid writing decision, and DPC won't do it. But keep believing it if you want. We'll find out who's right in 10 years or so.

I don't know if the ending between Zoey and the MC will be happy, or if it will end like the one Emma and Bret had.

If the MC returned to Zoey in episode 11, then they're no longer just friends having sex, but a fully-fledged couple. They took that crucial step that Brett and Emma never took, so your analogy doesn't work.

 

[Drevok]

Everyone makes mistakes, but I believe in forgiveness and second chances. I'm convinced that adding Zoey mid-game, creating an interlude for her, making her a unique option for the MC to abandon LI for, and then making their relationship doomed to failure is a very stupid writing decision, and DPC won't do it. But keep believing it if you want. We'll find out who's right in 10 years or so.


If the MC returned to Zoey in episode 11, then they're no longer just friends having sex, but a fully-fledged couple. They took that crucial step that Brett and Emma never took, so your analogy doesn't work.

Of course everyone makes mistakes, I never claimed that what she did was unforgivable or anything.

I didn't say their relationship was doomed. I wasn't directly comparing their situations, just saying that they're very similar, but that doesn't mean they're gonna end up the same way.

 

[dalli_x]

Everyone makes mistakes, but I believe in forgiveness and second chances. I'm convinced that adding Zoey mid-game, creating an interlude for her, making her a unique option for the MC to abandon LI for, and then making their relationship doomed to failure is a very stupid writing decision, and DPC won't do it. But keep believing it if you want. We'll find out who's right in 10 years or so.


If the MC returned to Zoey in episode 11, then they're no longer just friends having sex, but a fully-fledged couple. They took that crucial step that Brett and Emma never took, so your analogy doesn't work.

That's not entirely true, because Emma said that to Bret so she would love him. It took Bret a while to understand. But the next day, after they had sex, they were both embarrassed.

The only thing I know for sure about Zoey from the game is that she broke the MC's heart.

But luckily, during the summer job, Josy was there, and her smile healed the MC's heart.

 

[maxthruster]

I think it's pretty funny that Bret says that their relationship is even better now than before and then we see, throughout the entire interlude that it's not, they just refuse to face it. Zoey was the catalyst for both of them finally talking about it.

Bret was the last person she should ask for relationship advice, both he and Emma are so immature and bad at communicating, and they don't even have the excuse of being teenagers. In my blind/main playthough he's Mr Bad Advice: first he tells her to stop talking to Tremolo "for his own good", and then he tells her to confess her feelings to him even though he's in a relationship, and she gets rejected.

Part of the reason for Bret's conflicting advice is time. He first tells her to move on because the hurt from his failed relationship with Emma is still fresh, and hasn't been fully dealt with. Later, when it's had time to settle and he's moved on, he feels better about it and tells her from experience that she will too.

 

[Moni23]

But luckily, during the summer job, Josy was there, and her smile healed the MC's heart.

No offense, but screw Josy. I'd rather finish the game alone than with her. It's a shame I couldn't tell her in episode 1 to leave me alone.

 

[Drevok]

Part of the reason for Bret's conflicting advice is time. He first tells her to move on because the hurt from his failed relationship with Emma is still fresh, and hasn't been fully dealt with. Later, when it's had time to settle and he's moved on, he feels better about it and tells her from experience that she will too.

But he doesn't tell her that she will get over it the second time they talk (I assume you're talking about the conversation after Tremolo's confession. Correct me if I'm wrong). He tells her to shoot her shot anyway even though he's already in a relationship. He tells her that, Tremolo telling her that he had feelings for her means that he still feels something for her, just because he said it.

 

[El_Magnifico]

With everything you've written, you could certainly be right. But DPC wrote "Interlude" to show us something, to give us a better understanding of future EPs.

One of the things he showed us was how things between Emma and Bret wouldn't really work. Just replace Emma with Zoey and Bret with the MC.

So it could also happen that the MC chooses Zoey, alienates pretty much all the other girls, and ends up alone.

But luckily, during the summer job, Josy was there, and her smile healed the MC's heart.

Then broke it a second time when she revealed she was cheating on her current girlfriend and forced a trouple on him.

 

[maxthruster]

But he doesn't tell her that she will get over it the second time they talk (I assume you're talking about the conversation after Tremolo's confession. Correct me if I'm wrong). He tells her to shoot her shot anyway even though he's already in a relationship. He tells her that, Tremolo telling her that he had feelings for her means that he still feels something for her, just because he said it.

I'd have to replay the scene to remember his exact wording, but I could've sworn there was something in there about her getting closure; even if Tremolo rejects her, she'll have an answer. That was one of the big problems Bret and Emma had, that they never acknowledged their feelings and got it out in the open and that's why they couldn't move on.