VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Tikki]

Rusty isn't in his last year now because that would mean that Jill and Sage shouldn't still be in college if they were there before him.

The DIKs have only been around for 2 years so Rusty is now a 3rd year and he still has one more year to go after it.

Then Tybalt on which one?

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Then Tybalt on which one?

Probably 4th year.

 

[Tserriednich'sNen]

Well I'm very much interested in getting to sex with Bella, and I'm even hopeful of a possible Bella/Jill threesome/sharing arrangement, but I do also feel like Bella isn't so much of a LI that the MC will have a future with, but more like a LI that is simply meant to be helped by the MC to overcome her issues and move on from them.

The attraction does feel a bit superficial at this point, and so aside from Bella being drop-dead gorgeous, it's hard to figure out what the MC is doing here. He knows Bella and Jill are friends yet keeps on pressing Bella at the same time he's pursuing Jill, and he seems to have a bolder and cockier confidence with her than he does with everyone else because he's always the one pushing Bella into these sexy moments.

Sometimes it feel like the MC is all over the place when it comes to how he treats each LI; with Jill he's cautious and respectful, with Sage he lets her do a lot of the driving, with Maya he's both cautious and occasionally forceful, with Josy he's seemed tentative and loving, and with Bella he seems like he's putting pressure on her. It's like he's 5 different MC stereotypes all rolled in to one and it makes his character feel a bit inconsistent.

That's because the girls are different people and so is MC's relationship with each of them.

 

[ChipLecsap]

yeah, the moral of the story is that Maya after 5 episodes still doesn't know what she wants.
Idk where is Pink going with her story but it is getting more and more tireing with each episode.

I remember the time when you were one of the noble knight in our Maya kingdom. How far you have fallen. Wonder what Jill has to do to fall out form you grace
JK

 

[Holy Bacchus]

That's because the girls are different people and so is MC's relationship with each of them.

But so different that the MC switches from having an almost dominant, controlling demeanour with Bella, to a warm, caring nature with Maya? Maybe, it's just me, but I have never treated two people that differently, let alone two women that I was attracted to.

I remember the time when you were one of the noble knight in the Maya kingdom. How far you have fallen. Wonder what Jill has to do to fall out form you grace
JK

Fucked Bella and have an unrequited love for her .

 

[TundraLupus]

But so different that the MC switches from having an almost dominant, controlling demeanour with Bella, to a warm, caring nature with Maya? Maybe, it's just me, but I have never treated two people that differently, let alone two women that I was attracted to.

I think it is just who he is, he shows what ever part of his personality that person needs, i'm pretty much the same way, just not hot, or as silver tongued, i kinda adapt to whatever the person needs, while still being myself.

 

[ChipLecsap]

But so different that the MC switches from having an almost dominant, controlling demeanour with Bella, to a warm, caring nature with Maya? Maybe, it's just me, but I have never treated two people that differently, let alone two women that I was attracted to.



Fucked Bella and have an unrequited love for her .

 

[hatefuldisplay]

Rusty isn't in his last year now because that would mean that Jill and Sage shouldn't still be in college if they were there before him.

The DIKs have only been around for 2 years so Rusty is now a 3rd year and he still has one more year to go after it.

Could be a Masters or PHD program. They might have also gone light on credits and need to do more than the standard four years. I don't know if I want to go back through and re-read all of the dialog to figure it out. Damn. Why do you guys make me put so much thought into these scenarios?

 

[Skjall]

Wonder what Jill has to do to fall out form you grace
JK

Poorly written plot and nonsensical choices we'd be forced to make
This would kill off any girl. Even raccoons.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Could be a Masters or PHD program. They might have also gone light on credits and need to do more than the standard four years. I don't know if I want to go back through and re-read all of the dialog to figure it out. Damn. Why do you guys make me put so much thought into these scenarios?

Rusty was just starting college in that flashback.
Jill has said she's a 3rd year.
The DIKs have only been around for 2 years.

Therefore, Rusty is a 3rd year.

 

[Templar Knight]

In this case, fortunately there is no long way from Finland to Sweden.
But seriously speaking, the AL was the reason why I started playing these and I'm here F95.

well,man AL hit like truck in me,after that game,i started play being a dik and the game all ready hit me twice,so i think when the big boom moment come i will be prepared xD

 

[ChipLecsap]

Poorly written plot and nonsensical choices we'd be forced to make
This would kill off any girl. Even raccoons.

WE argued about this till the death. IMO its not Poorly written nor nonsensical.
me Having to replaying the game from scratch, seeing now all the details and where this lead me. from chapter 1-5 .I easily say it's pretty well written,. You feeling offended will not make any less good. in fact that's what makes it good. You feel something. We do have to give credit for this to DPC , regardless of how you feel about it, everyone has their opinion , so he did achieve something with it.

 

[Sorrow85]

well,man AL hit like truck in me,after that game

I know brother, i know.

As someone said in this thread, this would be more of an American pie style than a serious Acting Lesson.

Edit:
The game has then done something right if you can’t choose one or the other

 

[ename144]

But so different that the MC switches from having an almost dominant, controlling demeanour with Bella, to a warm, caring nature with Maya? Maybe, it's just me, but I have never treated two people that differently, let alone two women that I was attracted to.

Maybe he's just taking Jill's critique of Rusty being different around his friends to heart. The MC will be different around Jill's friends instead!

Honestly, I don't mind that the MC behaves a little differently with each girl since it makes sense that he would learn what each one enjoys and try to accommodate her. But his behavior change around Bella is a lot more pronounced, and for no real reason. There just doesn't seem to be much to their relationship that would lead him to act so differently.

It's especially bad if the MC didn't stay with Bella in Episode 4 and still makes a move on her in Episode 5. In that scenario, the last thing she said to him was the emphatic "I can't!" that ended their library make-out session. So obviously the MC took her at her word back then. But now when she says no in the sauna he just keep kissing and undressing her. I don't get what changed his mind.

Maya or Josy sometimes expressed doubt about fooling around with MC. In Josy's case the MC wasn't even sure he should call her again, and only set up the second date when she called him and said she might be going away. With Maya (if the MC skips the party to see her pictures), the MC's options are keyed into the DIK score: DIK, Maya says no and the MC accepts it; massive CHICK Maya says maybe and the MC takes that as a no; it's only low CHICK or neutral that will try to flip maybe to yes. Even then, he gets her to agree before he does more than kiss her.

With Bella, it doesn't matter how CHICKish the MC is, he will keep hitting on her over and over again. I think it would a lot more palatable if the MC at least knew why Bella was so reluctant and could be sure this really was something she wanted. But even we as the player, with the benefit of Bella's monologues, don't know just what happened to her. So what is the MC thinking?

To me it just feels like the MC is hell bent on seducing Bella for no readily apparent reason. I certainly don't begrudge Bella fans a chance to get their lewd scenes, but I really wish the game would give us a more mutual attraction between them first.

 

[JustADude321]

Calling it right now:

Vinny is gonna be revealed as Zoey's new boyfriend at some point in the future.

 

[Templar Knight]

I know brother, i know.

As someone said in this thread, this would be more of an American pie style than a serious Acting Lesson.

Edit:
The game has then done something right if you can’t choose one or the other

man, the way things are going, I'm thinking that Tommy will be the main villain and will try to sabotage the mc and his trajectory as the future leader of the dik's, in my opinion if you noticed the photo of quinn with that hood and comment sage who says that quinn likes mc is capable of being a "cool" Leah, so I predict Tommy trying to sabotage the mc and if you are on the sage or maya route (you may have noticed that Quinn makes bullying with Maya telling her to do things she doesn't like), is able to have something, although I don't know why the next episode will be hard because I believe that sage will discover the relationship between chad and melaine and moreover not just quinn but heather wants to get rid of sage as a leader so the next episode will be heavy between sage and obviously if you are on her route the mc will have to take some action on the situation, but worst of all is having to wait 4 months and you live with these theories in your head until then.

 

[Le Pew]

Calling it right now:

Vinny is gonna be revealed as Zoey's new boyfriend at some point in the future.

Nonsense. Vinny is Quinn's dealer. His drug business was why he was thrown out of the DIKs and later from B&R.

 

[Cndyrvr4lf]

Maybe he's just taking Jill's critique of Rusty being different around his friends to heart. The MC will be different around Jill's friends instead!

Honestly, I don't mind that the MC behaves a little differently with each girl since it makes sense that he would learn what each one enjoys and try to accommodate her. But his behavior change around Bella is a lot more pronounced, and for no real reason. There just doesn't seem to be much to their relationship that would lead him to act so differently.

It's especially bad if the MC didn't stay with Bella in Episode 4 and still makes a move on her in Episode 5. In that scenario, the last thing she said to him was the emphatic "I can't!" that ended their library make-out session. So obviously the MC took her at her word back then. But now when she says no in the sauna he just keep kissing and undressing her. I don't get what changed his mind.

Maya or Josy sometimes expressed doubt about fooling around with MC. In Josy's case the MC wasn't even sure he should call her again, and only set up the second date when she called him and said she might be going away. With Maya (if the MC skips the party to see her pictures), the MC's options are keyed into the DIK score: DIK, Maya says no and the MC accepts it; massive CHICK Maya says maybe and the MC takes that as a no; it's only low CHICK or neutral that will try to flip maybe to yes. Even then, he gets her to agree before he does more than kiss her.

With Bella, it doesn't matter how CHICKish the MC is, he will keep hitting on her over and over again. I think it would a lot more palatable if the MC at least knew why Bella was so reluctant and could be sure this really was something she wanted. But even we as the player, with the benefit of Bella's monologues, don't know just what happened to her. So what is the MC thinking?

To me it just feels like the MC is hell bent on seducing Bella for no readily apparent reason. I certainly don't begrudge Bella fans a chance to get their lewd scenes, but I really wish the game would give us a more mutual attraction between them first.

And the attraction is there between Bella and the MC. Look at what happened in the library before they kissed but after the MC leaned in. Bella telling him no yet she has her hands on the back of his head, arms around his shoulders, pulling him in. Look at the Sauna event. Bella doesn't fight at all, in fact once she gets into it she takes charge. Bella is in the middle of an emotional/intellectual conflict. While she knows morally she should say no and stop it she really doesn't want to.

I'm not going to say the MC is a decent guy for hitting on a married woman. Or dating/pursuing any of the other girls despite their situations. Hell in fact I've already gone on record and said all of them are cheating whores except Jill at this point.

 

[ename144]

And the attraction is there between Bella and the MC. Look at what happened in the library before they kissed but after the MC leaned in. Bella telling him no yet she has her hands on the back of his head, arms around his shoulders, pulling him in. Look at the Sauna event. Bella doesn't fight at all, in fact once she gets into it she takes charge. Bella is in the middle of an emotional/intellectual conflict. While she knows morally she should say no and stop it she really doesn't want to.

I'm not going to say the MC is a decent guy for hitting on a married woman. Or dating/pursuing any of the other girls despite their situations. Hell in fact I've already gone on record and said all of them are cheating whores except Jill at this point.

There is attraction, but Bella is still SAYING it's not enough.

Back in Episode 3 that was sufficient for the MC to back off. Now in Episode 5, even if nothing has happened since then, he keeps pushing.

Maybe what i'm saying is that the lewd scene in Episode 5 should have been gated by the lewd scene in Episode 4 instead of the library makeout session. I think the problems run deeper than that, but it would at least provide a reason for the MC to take her rejection at something other than face value.

 

[Cndyrvr4lf]

There is attraction, but Bella is still SAYING it's not enough.

Back in Episode 3 that was sufficient for the MC to back off. Now in Episode 5, even if nothing has happened since then, he keeps pushing.

Maybe what i'm getting at is that the lewd scene in Episode 5 should have been gated by the lewd scene in Episode 4 instead of the library makeout session. I think the problems run deeper than that, but it would at least provide a reason for the MC to take her rejection at something other than face value.

Your talking, mostly, a logical progression rather than a huge jump from Ep 3 to Ep 5 if you didn't stay at Bella's? Ok I can understand that. However a lot of this isn't necessarily a logical progression. Look at the Melanie scene. Never even really talked to the girl and yet she crawls in the shower with you and lets you bust a nut inside her. Look at Josy. Give her one flower and you go from a single clothed make out session to fucking in her parents bed. I could go on and on. At some point, and I'm guilty of this as well, we have to let go of our reality and realize this is a game. It isn't going to be realistic and we are never going to fully understand or relate to any of the characters because otherwise it would probably bore the shit out of us.

Edit - Porn by its very nature isn't supposed to be realistic. Its supposed to get your dick hard/pussy wet and that's about it. Its a fantasy plain and simple