VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[r1k1m4r]

this is one of games which changed my mind about adults games generally. great stuff

 

[ename144]

At the CUM-petition Tommy says :

tm "Tonight, the 3 of you will become 2!"
tm "The DIK tradition of pairwise testing lives on!"
tm "Two maggot brothers!"
tm "We're not accepting more and we're not accepting less!"

Pairwise testing is clear.
But "We're not accepting more and we're not accepting less!" hints that only 2 maggots are accepted at once.

Not necessarily. It could mean they can only accept an even number of maggots to make sure each has exactly one brother.

We see that Rusty/Tommy and Nick/Vinny are brother pairs even though they apparently ran through Hell Week at the same time. It's possible that if there had been 5 pledges they would have eliminated one and then accepted two pairs. Each pair would have to 'complete' the board together.

 

[RonnieBoi]

I strongly agree. I feel that players who are pursuing both Jill and Bella should be given the option at some point in the game to come clean about Bella to Jill and see were it goes the from there. The sooner the better cause if not then it's almost certain to blow up in our faces.

Couldn't agree more... Its a ticking timebomb !

 

[Cndyrvr4lf]

Just to be clear, I don't think Bella is frightened of the MC, she's frightened of what the MC does to her. For whatever reason, it's pretty clear Isabella is very uncomfortable responding to the MC's advances. It's implied to be because she is married, but until we finally learn her backstory it's hard to know if that is the whole truth.

Normally, the MC tends to lag behind the player picking in picking up what girls are thinking. Perhaps Bella is just a case where he's ahead of the player and it will turn out pressing her is exactly what she needed. But for now it feels out of synch.

Depends on where you stayed but because its a game DPC cant make a scene for every possible choice we make so we kind of have to let him flub it a little bit. I do understand where you are coming from. Like everything else in this game we have to many questions and not enough information to answer them.

 

[Tserriednich'sNen]

You know, Bella's desperation might just be the key to my issue with all this.

I agree, Bella clearly craves the MC's attention on some level. But Bella also seems frightened by the MC's attention on some level, and unlike with Josy or even Maya, the MC doesn't wait for the girl to sort out that dichotomy before he makes a move on her.

This time he seems intent on on sorting it out for her, purely by wearing down her resolve.

Bella's attraction to MC is more than just physical and she's obviously falling for him. However I'm curious as to what extent will MC get involved with her in the long run because I genuinely feel as though she needs a new beginning and to move on from whatever her current marital situation is. A new partner so to speak and MC is just the guy for that.

She's aware that she shouldn't get involved with MC but she can't help herself, it's what she truly wants. Besides it's her who initiates the lewd moments with MC not vice versa.

 

[Cndyrvr4lf]

Bella's attraction to MC is more than just physical and she's obviously falling for him. However I'm curious as to what extent will MC get involved with her in the long run because I genuinely feel as though she needs a new beginning and to move on from whatever her current marital situation is. A new partner so to speak and MC is just the guy for that.

She's aware that she shouldn't get involved with MC but she can't help herself, it's what she truly wants. Besides it's her who initiates the lewd moments with MC not vice versa.

Ok I definitely don't see how you can say its Bella that initiates them? I'm not going to say she doesn't semi-invite them but so far she has needed the MC to "push" her past her stop point.

 

[Back]

Finished my very first run of the game the other day...

Very impressive game! What a rollercoaster -- all sorts of ups and downs with *complex* characters with fascinating backgrounds, motives, and goals! Plus, it was f****** HILARIOUS at times! I love it when games can make me laugh! And the art is just pure bliss. Bravo!

Even antagonists that you're supposed to hate sometimes seem like good people. For example, Anthony of the Jocks. He's so naive and such a goofball! I bet he'd be fun to hang out with, right? Just look at him rockin' the

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, lol! He just looks so damn happy! Haha!

But what's the deal with this?

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No love for Quinn in the Rewards section? I mean, my first impressions of that character wasn't all that favorable, but hey you got to have folks like these in games to keep things interesting. Who knows? I bet she has a storied history as well. Hmm, maybe that's what I should try to explore on the next run.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Do you happen to have Maya's dialogues on the two friend routes?

Pretty much all the dialogue is the same apart from this part of the exchange:

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So there's actually quite a big difference between the rejection dialogue and the friends dialogue, and I'd say that the rejection dialogue is really quite sad and makes me feel even more sorry for Maya.

The poor girl's been so beaten down by her parents that she actually believes she can't make her own choices and just has to accept what others choose for her, likely because they controlled every aspect of her life and gave her very little freedoms. She felt like Josy didn't want it and so she went along with what she thought Josy wanted rather than raise a voice in objection because she's basically been trained not to by her parents. But yet we know from Josy's dialogue that she did want to try for more, but she was afraid she'd upset Maya by saying so, and so the whole rejection just boils down to their miscommunication and not fully understanding what the other one wanted to do.

 

[Cndyrvr4lf]

Pretty much all the dialogue is the same apart from this part of the exchange:

So there's actually quite a big difference between the rejection dialogue and the friends dialogue, and I'd say that the rejection dialogue is really quite sad and makes me feel even more sorry for Maya.

The poor girl's been so beaten down by her parents that she actually believes she can't make her own choices and just has to accept what others choose for her, likely because they controlled every aspect of her life and gave her very little freedoms. She felt like Josy didn't want it and so she went along with what she thought Josy wanted rather than raise a voice in objection because she's basically been trained not to by her parents. But yet we know from Josy's dialogue that she did want to try for more, but she was afraid she'd upset Maya by saying so, and so the whole rejection just boils down to their miscommunication and not fully understanding what the other one wanted to do.

Yeah seems to me like they both wanted to try it but both of them were afraid to say that because of what they thought the other partner would think.

 

[Tserriednich'sNen]

Ok I definitely don't see how you can say its Bella that initiates them? I'm not going to say she doesn't semi-invite them but so far she has needed the MC to "push" her past her stop point.

MC doesn't push her past her 'stop point' she herself is doing that. During the pool scene where MC decides not take it further cause of what happened and just goes in for a hug, she then decides to start stroking his cock underwater and initiates the lewd scene

Episode 5 is slightly different but still the same or less MC makes the first move she tells him that it's wrong for her MC questions why and she replies with for many reasons to which MC immediately stopped kissing her neck only to have her pull his head back in to keep kissing her leading to the lewd scene.

 

[Cndyrvr4lf]

MC doesn't push her past her 'stop point' she herself is doing that. During the pool scene where MC decides not take it further cause of what happened and just goes in for a hug, she then decides to start stroking his cock underwater and initiates the lewd scene

Episode 5 is slightly different but still the same or less MC makes the first move she tells him that it's wrong for her MC questions why and she replies with for many reasons to which MC immediately stopped kissing her neck only to have her pull his head back in to keep kissing her leading to the lewd scene.

Lol the whole choice you are referring to is called "take it further". The two choices you have are

Take it further / Stop (ends the scene before the sex part)

 

[Tserriednich'sNen]

Lol the whole choice you are referring to is called "take it further". The two choices you have are

Take it further / Stop (ends the scene before the sex part)

In which he just hugs her and doesn't really do anything sexual until she initiates it. My point still stands.

 

[Cndyrvr4lf]

In which he just hugs her and doesn't really do anything sexual until she initiates it. My point still stands.

I can't help how DPC makes the scene however if the MC makes a choice to take it further or stop that means its on the MC. If the MC said Stop but Bella did something that's on her but that doesn't happen. The sauna scene choice is

Make a move on her / Leave

If you leave nothing happens. If you make a move on her then the sex scene happens. The choice is the MCs regardless of what you think.

 

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Nonsense. Vinny is Quinn's dealer. His drug business was why he was thrown out of the DIKs and later from B&R.

By the way, when the MC becomes a DIK and starts making his voice heard and he climbs the first steps of the stair in DIK's mansion, at the end of the episode... It was like a deja-vu of Vinny, from the prologue. Strange thing. Why that parallel? Maybe DPC wanted to tell us something or maybe not. Anyway this is one of those things that make this game great.

 

[ename144]

Since ep2, Maya, is portrayed as the vulnerable sweet little thing the MC is supposed to protect and comfort all the time. Quinn bullies her, Sarah and Melanie mock her, she has a shitty relationship with her father, she must hide her relationship with Josy, she worries about Derek's cheating, she can't deal with the pledges sexual list, she's insecure with the MC because she never felt attracted to a boy before and the list goes on...

I mean she basically spent the whole episode 4 crying and trying to apologise and AGAIN in ep5 the MC has to comfort her because she felt jealous over the fatherly love Josy received from her father. It feels like the MC has to be the "Ken Doll". We don't really see new sides of her character and she clearly lacks moments when she genuinely bonds with the MC and actually offer real support in return.

By comparison, Sage is introduced as the typicall Girl Posse but she has shown hidden depths. The relationship feels more balanced and organic not only because they are actually bonding on several points (guitar lessons, sex-games, mutual dislike of Dawe, romantic issues...) but also because they comfort and support each other. The MC gave her the affection and the attention chad didn't provide and act like a confidant. On her side, Sage spent the whole ep4 helping and warming the MC up. She's more equal and far less needy. Even the whole fuck buddy things become more and more tender and romantic, showing a real progression.

Same thing for Bella and Jill. They share more activities ( Tennis, Yoga, music, cooking, real dates...) and the MC has to be more mature and subtle with them. They have vulnerable side but the MC doesn't have to act like a big brother figure (actually it's the opposite). Their past and connection is also more intriguing.

The fact Maya has to share his plot with Josy don't help either.

At the risk of wandering into a minefield, I agree Maya's presentation definitely changes after Episode 1. It's clear her niche in the cast is intended to be the girl the MC can protect and comfort.

That said, I don't think it's quite true that she never offers support to the MC after that. She is trying to help the MC sort out his feelings for Josy when he returns from the date (before she is interrupted by plot contrivance). She cleaned up after him when he returned from the Pink Rose completely plastered, and tried to find him the night he spent drunk at Bella's. She did want to help him complete his Hell Week tasks the night Josy arrived. And in an odd way she DOES support then MC when he worries about having to stop dating other girls during the picnic on the Maya/Josy path.

Moreover, Maya hasn't really had a chance to comfort the MC the way Sage or Bella could because she never had the opportunity. That was the only time the MC needed that level of support and Maya was the direct cause of it! Had the MC had been able to talk to Maya about it, the crisis would have been over automatically. If and when the MC's relationship with Jill/Bella/Sage/Karen Rebecca Johnson blows up in his face, I think we will see Maya step up to help him through it (if the player hasn't cut all ties with her, of course).

So I think it's less that she stopped supporting the MC and more that the game chose to gloss over her support for the MC and focus on the times she needed support from the MC as much as possible. I do think the game has gone a bit overboard on that, so I would be happy to see more of Maya acting as a peer to the MC.

But I also think the Maya we saw in Episode 1 was a very incomplete picture. It's Maya as she aspires to be, friendly and free to indulge her quirks without worrying about being judged. As she got to know the MC and value his opinion, and as he got to know the serious quirks that have ruined her life, it was natural she would turn to him for help and thus show a much more vulnerable side.

Which is why I think we will eventually get the old Maya back if the game gets far enough. Fleshing out that impression is going to be Maya's character arc: gaining the confidence to show her serious quirks with same grace she could only show the inconsequential ones. That's certainly what I'm hoping for. We'll see if the game delivers.

 

[tangenty]

hey guys, the console commands affinity= 'CHICK' isnt working for me while money and DIK values are working fine any idea why ?

 

[6kentaur9]

guys, when I'm trying to load the latest save from ep4 I'm stuck into this

 

[imfedupdawg]

guys, when I'm trying to load the latest save from ep4 I'm stuck into this View attachment 683056

https://f95zone.to/threads/being-a-dik-v0-4-1-dr-pinkcake.25332/post-2907919

 

[NOVASSR]

I just finished the episode 3 and starting the 4, but im the only one who feels that the MC is bitching too much about the Jossy and Maya thing? I mean yeah i was surprised too and all but is not like he wasnt fucking or trying to fuck a lot of girls too.

 

[Gh0st_Harambe]

How not to love her, without a doubt one of the best characters

Her smile