VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Cndyrvr4lf]

Has the official WT been shared here?If yes,can someone link it to me?

Not so far but there is a link on the first page to the old one

 

[xsssssssss]

I don't think the story has plot holes. Rather, it is a limited possibility of narrating for given medium, indie VN. The size of the campus, the distance of the individual buildings, DPC did not deal with it, because it is not so important. Can you imagine where we would be in the story if DPC showed every move in detail?
I recommend to you to add to your logical evaluation the possibilities of the developer to tell a story of “what to tell” and at “what price / time”.

Yeah at the end of the day he needed to have maya introduce the frats not showing 100 frames of them walking. I fully accept that creative liberty and I view the important story stuff as one of real select group of top notch games i’m Willing to support.

 

[Tserriednich'sNen]

It's nice to see that Quinn is every bit as incompetent as always in this episode.

Quinn has so far been able to run her businesses without Sage knowing about them because she has her complete trust. So naturally, Quinn thinks that the best thing to do now is to give Sage reason to doubt her by breaking a deal with the DIKs in order to create an opportunity for herself to make money by selling drugs to the preps.

This plan of Quinn's has the added effect of angering her partner in crime Tommy, who had trusted her to bring the HOTs to his party as was promised. The payoff for Quinn is... well... not much really. Turns out that the preps weren't interested in buying what she was selling. They wanted cocaine, while she's trying to sell cannabis. So this seems like a bit of an oversight on her part, considering the well known stereotype is that rich folk like coke.

Fortunately, she has her other business to fall back on. Her takeout service is now a delivery service, but it doesn't really pan out for her either. Camilla responds to your proposition by saying that Quinn would be angry if she gave something away for free, right before she gives it away for free. A short while later, we see Mona run out of a room shouting that she can't go through with something. What that something is, isn't spelled out, but it ain't hard to figure out. Camilla runs after Mona in a panic, while Burke exits seconds later while wearing those pinstripe pants you might remember spotting through that bathroom glory hole back in chapter one if you looked in there immediately after Quinn and Riona walked out.

So the day ends with Sage mad at Quinn, Tommy mad at Quinn, and everyone involved with Quinn worried that Mona might spill the beans. Unfazed by it all, Quinn takes everything in stride and comes up with a master plan to set everything right. Just kidding, she ends the day by getting high on her own supply.

I had previously complained about how much I hated the fact that the game didn't allow us to retaliate against Quinn in any way shape or form, despite the game giving us two perfect opportunities to effortlessly ruin her plans. But now, I'm starting to think that just sitting back and watching her ruin herself might be more entertaining. I'm not sure how much deeper she can dig this hole before everything collapses in on her, but at this rate she shouldn't last past the end of the season.

Well said. Her downfall will be a glorious show to watch.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

It's nice to see that Quinn is every bit as incompetent as always in this episode.

Quinn has so far been able to run her businesses without Sage knowing about them because she has her complete trust. So naturally, Quinn thinks that the best thing to do now is to give Sage reason to doubt her by breaking a deal with the DIKs in order to create an opportunity for herself to make money by selling drugs to the preps.

This plan of Quinn's has the added effect of angering her partner in crime Tommy, who had trusted her to bring the HOTs to his party as was promised. The payoff for Quinn is... well... not much really. Turns out that the preps weren't interested in buying what she was selling. They wanted cocaine, while she's trying to sell cannabis. So this seems like a bit of an oversight on her part, considering the well known stereotype is that rich folk like coke.

Fortunately, she has her other business to fall back on. Her takeout service is now a delivery service, but it doesn't really pan out for her either. Camilla responds to your proposition by saying that Quinn would be angry if she gave something away for free, right before she gives it away for free. A short while later, we see Mona run out of a room shouting that she can't go through with something. What that something is, isn't spelled out, but it ain't hard to figure out. Camilla runs after Mona in a panic, while Burke exits seconds later while wearing those pinstripe pants you might remember spotting through that bathroom glory hole back in chapter one if you looked in there immediately after Quinn and Riona walked out.

So the day ends with Sage mad at Quinn, Tommy mad at Quinn, and everyone involved with Quinn worried that Mona might spill the beans. Unfazed by it all, Quinn takes everything in stride and comes up with a master plan to set everything right. Just kidding, she ends the day by getting high on her own supply.

I had previously complained about how much I hated the fact that the game didn't allow us to retaliate against Quinn in any way shape or form, despite the game giving us two perfect opportunities to effortlessly ruin her plans. But now, I'm starting to think that just sitting back and watching her ruin herself might be more entertaining. I'm not sure how much deeper she can dig this hole before everything collapses in on her, but at this rate she shouldn't last past the end of the season.

She will fall, but then she will be saved and we will have a beautiful moment with her.

 

[xsssssssss]

Well said. Her downfall will be a glorious show to watch.

I’m hoping to step in & help her, stopping any downfall.

 

[Tserriednich'sNen]

She will fall, but then she will be saved and we will have a beautiful moment with her.

Which should be 100% optional.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Which should be 100% optional.

Fair enough, but if one of those options leads to a scene like this, I'm totally picking it. Quinn't not a bad person, and I for one will not see any harm come to her.

 

[Tserriednich'sNen]

Fair enough, but if one of those options leads to a scene like this, I'm totally picking it. Quinn't not a bad person, and I for one will not see any harm come to her.

MC has enough on his plate to deal with, I've no interest in having him involve himself into whatever shitty situation Quinn has gotten herself into which based off what we know so far is entirely her fault.

Also I find it interesting how you don't think she's a bad person considering what she's trying to do to Maya.

 

[Tserriednich'sNen]

MC has enough on his plate to deal with, I've no interest in having him involve himself into whatever shitty situation Quinn has gotten herself into which based off what we know so far is entirely her fault.

Inb4 we get forced into it

 

[Mormont]

I’m hoping to step in & help her, stopping any downfall.

I'd like to be optimistic but I think her time is running out but sure she'll have something else planned but judging by this episode I think she is going to be very desperate by the time we get to ep6

MC has enough on his plate to deal with, I've no interest in having him involve himself into whatever shitty situation Quinn has gotten herself into which based off what we know so far is entirely her fault.

Also I find it interesting how you don't think she's a bad person considering what she's trying to do to Maya.

I doubt we will be able to help her I think DPC will let it play out as it is for the story. She's the antagonist I just hope we don't get one of the cliche bad becomes good story.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Also I find it interesting how you don't think she's a bad person considering what she's trying to do to Maya.

I won't say that I approve of what she does, because I don't, but I know that not everyone who gets involved in this kind of thing is a bad person. There are some who are totally immoral, amoral, husks of human beings wth no compassion or compunction for who they hurt and how, but I don't see Quinn as someone like that. I see her as someone who's making a lot of short-sighted mistakes because she's young and isn't properly thinking through the consequences of her actions. She thought she could make a quick buck selling the 2 things that are a staple of college life; sex and drugs. But deep down, I think she knows that it isn't good, that it isn't what she should be doing, but it's all she knows and she needs to be shown that there's another way.

I don't have anger or hatred or contempt towards her, I want to know how to help, how to get her out of that lifestyle and make her see that it's dangerous and she's better than that. That's the kind of person I am, and I'm not mad at her for trying to drag Maya into it because if it wasn't her, she'd try it with somebody else. I can see the struggle within Quinn and want to help her, and I hope we'll be able to. Even if she drags the MC down first, I'll still want to help her.

Inb4 we get forced into it

Spoiler...we will get forced into it.

 

[xsssssssss]

I'd like to be optimistic but I think her time is running out but sure she'll have something else planned but judging by this episode I think she is going to be very desperate by the time we get to ep6

I doubt we will be able to help her I think DPC will let it play out as it is for the story. She's the antagonist I just hope we don't get one of the cliche bad becomes good story.

I’ll be annoyed if we have to stand idly by while it plays out
She’s clearly got her agenda gong on but she’s not the antagonist of the story imo.

 

[Wizard_Shiryuu]

I am sorry I don't mean to irritate or piss people off (Stark9999999). I just have a very logical orientated mind and little things like that drive me CRAZY! I realize that it's a story but make it work, don't go all magical soundless breaking glass, or pictures taken from impossible angles, or just straight up stupid ways/things that happen. That's just bad writing and a lack of creativity. It's a weakness that can be corrected not just "hand wave" away.

I understand you. You can't choose not to pay attention to those details. It can be frustrating sometimes.

I don't think this game has huge plot holes, though. Lazy writing at times... Maybe.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

I’ll be annoyed if we have to stand idly by while it plays out
She’s clearly got her agenda gong on but she’s not the antagonist of the story imo.

This is Quinn's story and we're all just living it.

But seriously, I still think we're going to see her do something that ends up dragging the MC down with her and that this was the "plan B" she pointed out to Riona in ep 4. We'll then have to build the MC back up again, possibly clear his name if he's been accused of something, and the relationships he's cultivated will play a huge part in helping with this. We'll also probably have some unavoidable Quinn interactions with some + and - DIK point moments along the way culminating in a major choice that will see her either be redeemed or not.

I see Quinn as being like the first bad guy that shows up in "24"; they're the one you see in all the trailers and adverts and you think they're the "big bad", but then once you get about halfway through the season you find out that they actually work for someone much bigger and way, way worse. In this case, that would be Quinn's supplier who's the real "big bad" of the story.

 

[cryhwks]

Quinn isn't a evil person???

 

[Cndyrvr4lf]

I understand you. You can't choose not to pay attention to those details. It can be frustrating sometimes.

I don't think this game has huge plot holes, though. Lazy writing at times... Maybe.

I think we will have to just agree to disagree. I think it has both and no maybe about it. I understand creative license when it comes to changing minor things to make the story work. However, IMO he has created magical/miracle solutions to problems just to make his story work. That's both of the above. Meh, my issue.

 

[Tserriednich'sNen]

I won't say that I approve of what she does, because I don't, but I know that not everyone who gets involved in this kind of thing is a bad person. There are some who are totally immoral, amoral, husks of human beings wth no compassion or compunction for who they hurt and how, but I don't see Quinn as someone like that. I see her as someone who's making a lot of short-sighted mistakes because she's young and isn't properly thinking through the consequences of her actions. She thought she could make a quick buck selling the 2 things that are a staple of college life; sex and drugs. But deep down, I think she knows that it isn't good, that it isn't what she should be doing, but it's all she knows and she needs to be shown that there's another way.

I don't have anger or hatred or contempt towards her, I want to know how to help, how to get her out of that lifestyle and make her see that it's dangerous and she's better than that. That's the kind of person I am, and I'm not mad at her for trying to drag Maya into it because if it wasn't her, she'd try it with somebody else. I can see the struggle within Quinn and want to help her, and I hope we'll be able to. Even if she drags the MC down first, I'll still want to help her.



Spoiler...we will get forced into it.

Forcing MC to help Quinn with whatever she's going through would would ruin the game for me and other players I would imagine. It was bad enough all players got forced into the Maya/Josy romance triangle drama but to do something like that again would be off putting imo

 

[Alexis_1]

I play the version without mini-games. An event with Riona at the beginning of v.0.5. Correctly I understand, that in this variant (without mini-games) I can’t get money anywhere to give them to Riona and get a scene with her?

 

[Mormont]

I’ll be annoyed if we have to stand idly by while it plays out
She’s clearly got her agenda gong on but she’s not the antagonist of the story imo.

If Quinn was the main girl then I'd understand that choice to help her but we know most of the focus will be on the Li's of the game, I think so too if anything it's most likely to be the dealer or Burke who will play a bigger role of antagonist.

 

[Wizard_Shiryuu]

I think we will have to just agree to disagree. I think it has both and no maybe about it. I understand creative license when it comes to changing minor things to make the story work. However, IMO he has created magical/miracle solutions to problems just to make his story work. That's both of the above. Meh, my issue.

Like what? Serious question.

I think a plot hole is something bigger or central to the story, like Melanie being Chad's girl and her being in the gym at the same time. Something of that scale. I don't think there are any of those.