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VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

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Alfagrem

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Holy Bacchus said:
Maya's "earned" criticism seems to me to be mostly based on the fact that she wasn't infallible, that she made a mistake in not telling the MC the truth about herself (a fact she herself acknowledges was a mistake and apologises emphatically for), and that this mistake is so egregious and devious as to somehow make her the 2nd most despicable character in the game, which is preposterous.

What she did is not an unforgivable offense, but some people act like it is and I simply cannot understand the lack of compassion for a character that is so clearly in need of help.
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Don't think more then a clutch of players are in the 'despising' camp, it's more that she's in the lesser of many options camp.

Sure, she needs compassion and help BUT why should we be the one to give it to her?

She has Derek and now Josy as a support system. We're just some guy she met a week ago who doesn't fully grasp her situation (due to her being less the open and honest) who had to be blackmailed into accepting as temp roomate. We've got a busy schedule of trying to save the DIKs, wooing Jill and working out what's in Bella's basement.Unless you are 110% blindly in team Maya and like that whole 'troubled damsel' schtick then it's really not your place


Holy Bacchus said:
That criticism was also ridiculous as well because it shows she cares about the MC and reporting someone for assaulting you like that is the right thing to do, so I don't see that she did anything wrong.
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But you did ask her not to report it.

That she went behind your back/over your head could be troubling to some as it suggests that (despite how powerful her motives may be based on her unexplained history) she isn't willing to listen to your feelings and she sees you as some scrappy little puppy rather then an equal with an equal opinion.

It sets a worrying tone for a future relationship if that's how things are going to play out is all.



Holy Bacchus said:
Sage drama could be a particularly devastating one if it turns out that Chad isn't gay and there are signs they could have a reconciliation because I'd argue what Sage has been doing is even worse than anything Maya and Josy have done.
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I'd be surprised to the point of disappointment in DPK's writing skills if this happened.

From Flashbacks (DIK formation) to present day we've seen a history of Chad's disintrest and it would be a major character reversal to suddenly have him pursuing Sage.

He didn't show a renewed interest when MC became competition and he didn't try be more persuasive with Sage when his ass was on the line post-fight.

Given that he's let those occasions pass him by - I can't see a plausible reason for him to suddenly reconcile.
 
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Actually, Maya tells MC that she had a girlfriend. When the MC asks "Are you a virgin?" She replies: "So far, I've only been with a girl." MC asks, "Is this what you were hiding?" And here she leaves the answer. She is very afraid of being condemned and despised.
 
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Holy Bacchus said:
Maya's "earned" criticism seems to me to be mostly based on the fact that she wasn't infallible, that she made a mistake in not telling the MC the truth about herself (a fact she herself acknowledges was a mistake and apologises emphatically for), and that this mistake is so egregious and devious as to somehow make her the 2nd most despicable character in the game, which is preposterous.

What she did is not an unforgivable offense, but some people act like it is and I simply cannot understand the lack of compassion for a character that is so clearly in need of help.
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I agree with you there. I won't speak for everybody, but I don't think people hate her that much, it's just not liking her anymore as a LI or preferring others. As I said before I don't want anything bad to happen to her, but I lost my interest in her. One thing about these discussions these days is that I discovered I don't dislike her as much as I think I did.
Holy Bacchus said:
That criticism was also ridiculous as well because it shows she cares about the MC and reporting someone for assaulting you like that is the right thing to do, so I don't see that she did anything wrong.
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I understand both parts here, she was right to do what she though it was the good thing to do, but she also should have respected the MC's opinion on that. I'm divided on that one.
Holy Bacchus said:
Sage drama could be a particularly devastating one if it turns out that Chad isn't gay and there are signs they could have a reconciliation because I'd argue what Sage has been doing is even worse than anything Maya and Josy have done.

She's willingly engaged in a fully sexual relationship with the MC on the assumption that her boyfriend Chad is cheating on her (he most likely is to some extent but she's still assuming the worst) which she seems to have no qualms about, and even though her and the MC have agreed it's just FWB, there's definitely feelings there between them, and certainly with a lot of the players. This then really plays with the emotions of both the MC and the player as it would seem Sage is starting to view the MC in a romantic way and there is a future here. But if Chad isn't cheating, or at least not to the extent Sage thinks he is, and in realising the error of his ways comes back to Sage and vows that things will be different, there's every chance she could be tempted because she has this inexplicable connection to him.

In this case, it reminds of domestic abuse victims who, despite everything their friends and relatives might do or say, will stick with their abusive partner even when they themselves know they're being abused. Not saying that Chad abuses her, but that she seems to have this connection with him whereby she might be persuaded to get back with him if he shows even a modicum of affection towards her, and if players have to deal with this kind of drama with Sage, I could see a lot of them being turned off of her too.
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I don't think that will happen because NTR. If she were to stop being FWB with the MC and returned with Chad, even for a moment, the uproar would be a million times M&J's, that's for sure, but I doubt anything like that will happen. MC or not it looks like she's past Chad at this point. I know Chad being gay it's becoming too obvious of a twist, but it explains everything, Chad's lack of interest... I find it hard to believe that the gym scene was anything else than cheating.
 
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Alfagrem said:
Not limited to main LI's though - It's any potential LI you can 'accumulate' in totality.

Closest we've got in this game to non-MC involvement is Arieth's scenes and photo's.

Now if we can't do anything with her then it's not NTR BUT if at some point we can then we've shared, then it's NTR.
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Not that anyone would want to be involved with Arieth, right?

RIGHT? :ROFLMAO:
Does this mean that the MC has technically claimed half the campus for himself :unsure: ?.
NukaCola said:
Yes. So that must be it. Fuck, where the hell I'm gonna get $$ for the girl now :( Can I cheat it somehow?
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If you have minigames off you get double money from environment, so collecting all the money lying around should compensate for that.
 
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Holy Bacchus said:
Personally, I put the MC not wanting to report it down to typical machismo where guys view this sort of things as weakness and would rather deal with these conflicts themselves without going to any authorities. It's not what I would have done and I understand that the MC is not me in this situation, but that's why I'd say Jill did the right thing.
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It was certainly the morally correct thing to do the only quibble is that it was rather 'high handed' of Jill to do so and this is in a situation where she is the more powerful person (princess) and you're the poor little scrapper.

She probably doesn't see it that way but it is the dynamic at work.


Holy Bacchus said:
The question is what level of cheating is it? Is he having sex with this person or is it some kind of long-distance relationship?
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Well if we take the script for the library showdown then MC/DPK is calling the unavoidable interactions with M&J as cheating.

So therefore Kissing = cheating.
 
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Arieth is so squishy. Something that his game is lucking, everybody is so fit and firm and over the top.
Thats the only criticism i can think, but is related to the fact that DAZ aparently lacks the tools to make it look good.
 
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flippityflop said:
Please don't take this the wrong way, but for someone who frequents a forum dedicated to adult content, you seem pretty oblivious to some of the most common and well known terminologies. How is that possible?
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To be honest that happened to me aswell. People here were 100% Maya wasn't going to do anything with Quinn's restaurant. I asked why and that's the answer I got.
 
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On the topic of Sage and Chad, I feel like both of them are being manipulated by someone and the MC gets caught in the middle as a "tool" (for a lack of a better word to describe it at the moment) to achieve this manipulation. The lack of interest of Chad for sage is quote clear from the flashback but there could be something more with whats going on behind the scenes in the jocks with the steroids. MCs job would have to be to uncover what it is, get Sage to acknowledge and accept that Chad doesn't want to be wit her for some reason, learn what said reason is and maybe get Chad to help in he bigger picture with the happenings behind the scenes or at least not ending up in fight whenever they meet.


At the moment the only thing I can "predict" is that if Quinn falls there would be quite some damage done to the HOTs that Sage would have to deal with MCs help or without as well as Tommy due to the deal he made with Quinn. So the DiKs would have to deal with even more shit they are dealing at the moment. It would be a nice set up for character development for the DiKs president that seems like a nice dude but taking the easy route for the most part of the story so far.


Btw, at the event with the fight with Chad, can you even win that fight? As seems kind of impossible unless you have some godly reflexes.
 
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