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My question is: Could you have your way with only (I mean really only) one girl (like Jill, for example), at least at some point? Is it really possible/successfull or is it something planned?
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Pretty sure that's the whole point. Go after all of them and get none in the end or pick 1 if you want a happy ending
Pretty much my read on it all as well in general, though a lot of DIK choices are less "asshole" and more of a "twit" level.I think most of these people's problems with the CHICK choices are simply comes from the name for it aka CHICK. they probably feel less masculine about themself or something
Definitely something that I also hold in high regard in terms of DPC's characterization skills. Dude really knows how to bring characters to life (unless they are given matches, anyway).
I do believe DPC set up a decent enough system to allow somebody like Sage to require generally "neutral" path.
Or she'll bring out the matches...
Really should, imo.
DPC could simply start using conditions that require "less than maximum DIK/CHICK" for some LIs. TBH, don't see why current implementation couldn't be used for ultimately exclusive Chick/neutral/DIK playthroughs - especially if he puts in the effort to branch those further (say, more DIK-ish "neutral" Sage path involving other HOTs or whatnot).
Isn't that what a "DIK path" would imply in the first place?
M&J content is available with neutral path, which, IIRC, does not gate you away from DIK content, either. Hence my comment on "neutral" path being, at least for now, the best choice in terms of keeping options open while experiencing majority of the lewd content.
Troy obviously had something major going against him. It does not excuse his behavior toward MC, but even before that scene you can see him mellowing out on it if you're not a prick back (the guitar scene). Whether or not it may result, in the long run, with something beneficial for the MC, giving Troy a chance to get to that point is, for my personal preferences, worth tolerating some insecure lashing out.
You don't know what Troy's issues with the Alphas is. You cannot determine whether or not he was in a position to do anything about them taking MC's guitar in the first place, OR even whether or not he tried to stop it from happening (dude's got a black eye).
Somebody who's in an already shitty place, who already was physically assaulted, pushed you. Oh noes, start swinging.Then he decides to get physical with MC
Like I said, Chick choices are generally indicative of much greater emotional maturity than DIK choices. This is a perfect example of it.
Unlike you, I do not see that situation as validating swinging at somebody's face, all things considered. It was an asshole reaction. Nor do I believe that making such judgement call says anything about my willingness to defend myself or what's mine when the situation does require it.
That wasn't one of them.
Yeah, well, medium limitations and high emotions all around. I'd prefer to get a more fitting response for a "chick" choice there, but if DPC wanted to cater to that, most of the game would require twice the content.
The fuck are you on about? You think it's a mature, much less societally-approved, thing to go around swinging at everyone who you can hurt just because they don't like you, or something?
The Alphas were looking for a confrontation because a) they were on their DIK-path, b) they caught MC doing something highly suspicious, c) MC was already on their target list due to prior interactions. Weren't looking hard enough for a confrontation for MC not to be able to just run off, though. And the whole "taking on three guys of unknown fighting capability" self-preservation consideration aside, MC could've at least fucking respected what his Dad taught him. Especially since the choice is clearly framed as a dumbfuck "Raaah I gotta hit something because muh masculinity" one.
Why not start fighting with everyone that says something bad about somebody, while at it.
Major part of growing the fuck up is knowing when to ignore people, and whatever inane things they say, but admittedly - considering MC's age, probably a lesson still to be learned.
MC is also a very "beautiful snowflake" who blows up with "muh feelings" at a very emotionally complex situation with M&J, despite potentially screwing everybody around that he can (even on Chick path), so let's not pretend like there aren't "derp" moments in BaDIK.Not being able to take a joke, white knighting a certain girl through out the game. Jesus christ MC tries to defend Maya against Derek, because he called her "total cockblock" before even knowing how close they are
Perhaps I need to replay the game again, because I do not recall many, if any, mentions of "chick choices" being explicitly driven by MC's desire to get in good graces of a potential screw.
You can be nice and supportive to people, even attractive females potentially interested in you, without expecting anything in return. That's far, far from "simping," but at this point I doubt you'll bother acknowledging the distinction.
You couldn't be more wrong, but not like it matters.
Sometimes it's just simpler to ignore irrelevant confrontations, and we obviously have a vastly different judgement of what does matter.
I used to be the proverbial stick kid. Combined with my... uh... shining personality... it led to plenty of bullying attempts (and by that, I mean shit like getting punched and kicked with full force plenty of times).
I agree that "doing nothing" in face of bullying is unlikely to work well, but, at least in my experience, escalating likely won't, either.
Stand your ground. Respond on the same level. Somebody mouths you off, mouth them off back. They push you, you push them back (at least if you think it's worth it). Yeah, it won't let you avoid some hurt to give them the first shot, but in the long run it'll mean IF you finally get to the point where you need to kick somebody's ass till they back off (assuming you can, in the first place, heh), at least your peers/rest of society will mostly back you up. If your response to bullying is more bullying, though... well. You're on a short trip to become "them."
The choices I metioned from BaDIK are nowhere near that level of necessary escalation.
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yes, you just avoid every sexual encounter to other girls and be the goods ide of Bella.
he really saving Sage for the last huh
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Or Maya. We still haven't had her render yet.he really saving Sage for the last huh
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Maya pretty much tells that to the MC at some point, she tells him about how being with him is like being with a girl/chick.I think most of these people's problems with the CHICK choices are simply comes from the name for it aka CHICK
This coming from somebody with pretty much only genuine "past" relationship being with another female, I'd flip it back at her thanking for the compliment. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Honestly, for me this pretty much says more about societal expectation of what consitutes "masculinity" than MC's actual personality. Would've been fun to throw THAT back at Ms. Feminist, too.
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we all know that the last 'beach girl' will be KRJ right ?
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he really saving Sage for the last huh
Arieth or KRJ!!!
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It is difficult to determining an adequate response, so I do not take any side in your dispute.
(After all, the MC must choose the DIK option persistently to make him a “proper” DIK).
I just wanted to write that BigA, our dancing sensei, obviously doesn't like being violent at all. Other two jocks would probably make move on MC, but Anthony would not attack MC. So at least in cause of Anthony, MC was aggressor.
I think that's also the reason for the "just in self-defense" rule. If you use force without knowing the circumstances ....
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Just finished Chapter 5 and I love this game so much but can I please get some Jill content I'm starving here I love her!!!!
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Well, maybe in that certain situation MC shouldn't be there to begin with, but it is what it is. The code thing is pointless there as you said it, it's either run or get your ass handed to you. I'm sure he wouldn't be able to get away with a single wedgie or just a simple beatdown there.Furthermore, even if the MC actually doesn't interfere during Chad and Sage's argument, Chad still threatens him anyway (Which is highly hypocritical considering he's the cheater who doesn't even give a shit about Sage). Dawe gives him a wedgie all the same.
That's my main issue with a full CHICK path. The MC acts like a passive bully magnet. There's actually no reason not fighting back. I don't even understand why fighting the Alpha is supposed to be a dik move. His father taught him martial arts for that exact reason. Dawe attacked him first and he was surrounded by hostile jerks. The whole "breaking code" is a no-sense. You don't handle bullies by running from them all the time.
A MC on Dik path can be an ass but at least he's confident and tough. Considering he overpowered Dawe, the three jocks and was able to hold his own against the Hulking Caleb, I bet Dawe and most alphas won't have the balls to physically confront him anymore.
The other upside to stand and fight choice is, you get the most satisfying scene in the game up until that point (replaced only by punching Tyballs scene).
unserprisingly the best girl has the best beach render till now ( though sage could steal the spot)
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I so hope there is a poly ending cause if i have to choose between her and sage i would definitely choose to spank sally
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Yeah I think both of you are right and two systems together is just so superficial. Doesn't feel genuine at all. Why is there a status and an affinity checkmark? Just mend them together and make MC talk and act according to it. It feels so absurd in my playthrough when I'm like DIK status but chick affinity. What does that mean, am I bipolar ? Two personalities taking turns? Why my MC gets poor reactions because he is a Chick and moments later he also gets rejected by others because he is DIK. It feels so superficial.
I agree that one parameter should exist and it governs how MC acts around people. Just like you said affinity can change MC's character and how he acts around others. It would feel much better.
Agreed. DIK path right now is pretty normalized with rare spikes of being a "gangsta" or "troublemaker". Most of the stuff is actually the same choices that confident people would take. I'm guessing DPC didn't want players to feel like actual dick so he tones down the "DIK" choices. I hope it gets balanced more in the future. Chick path needs more love.Furthermore, even if the MC actually doesn't interfere during Chad and Sage's argument, Chad still threatens him anyway (Which is highly hypocritical considering he's the cheater who doesn't even give a shit about Sage). Dawe gives him a wedgie all the same.
That's my main issue with a full CHICK path. The MC acts like a passive bully magnet. There's actually no reason not fighting back. I don't even understand why fighting the Alpha is supposed to be a dik move. His father taught him martial arts for that exact reason. Dawe attacked him first and he was surrounded by hostile jerks. The whole "breaking code" is a no-sense. You don't handle bullies by running from them all the time.
A MC on Dik path can be an ass but at least he's confident and tough. Considering he overpowered Dawe, the three jocks and was able to hold his own against the Hulking Caleb, I bet Dawe and most alphas won't have the balls to physically confront him anymore.
On the subject of "things that affect others without their knowledge", normally I would agree and question why the way how MC acts around his hometown to the bully store owner, effects the way Jill perceives MC. But I guess it is one of those limitations for these types of games. It is very hard to retcon every plot point to the main path in a VN setting. So this superficial point system is sadly here to give the meaning to most of the MC's choices. It would be too hard to design every dialogue choice otherwise.
Nice read, I was never interested in Bella since the start because of her model and how she acts around. Expressionless cold attitude was not my taste. But you gave me a new perspective on the way I look at her now. I agree the more game progressed the more I got warmed up to her. It will be nice to see when she opens up to MC completely.
Yes, I'm surprised how many people didn't deduct this. In her way, she praised MC in the best way possible she can, in her mind. I wrote more on this subject before:
It's insane how many people think the reason Maya said MC is similar to a girl is because, She either thinks MC is a pussy and needs to man up or she is a femi-nazi and wants to destroy all males starting with converting MC to female, superior gender.
It is funny and sad how many people couldn't deduce why Maya said that to the MC.
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My favorite girl <3 I expect many heartwarming and tender moments with her.
You don't know that. Anthony, as already noted, is not a violent person. As for "the code," things like Niju Kun are still respected and taught for very good, and directly applicable to that situation, reasons.
I do beg your pardon, sirrah, but were there any satisfaction to be found in such crude behavior in the first place, it would still pale in comparison to these moments:
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I think of it this way - the choices do not reflect only that exact moment in time and corresponding action, but the overall personality of the character. So Jill reacts not to a specific situation that happened in MC's past, but the abstraction that represents MC's identity as a whole, as implemented with considerations toward the medium's limitations.
It's not a bad way to allow both semblance of freedom of choice (and their consequences) as well as predetermined story progression.
I don't actually recall the exact circumstances surrounding this, so didn't want to throw a potentially incorrect interpretation of the scene. Either way, though, doesn't strike me as something to take offense at, considering where it's coming from.
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