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VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

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Holy Bacchus said:
Which is what other games lack. There's very little that's unknown about the "story" of other games and VNs because they're either blatantly explained to the MC, or there isn't much of a story because it's basically just about fucking your way through as many girls as possible until the dev decides to conclude things and move on to their next game.

If this game didn't include all those side scenes that the MC is not involved in, it would still be a good game and we'd probably still be talking a lot about it, but those scenes enhance the story by letting us see what else is going on and giving us an insight into the other principle players.
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Problems arise when we face choices that could be influenced by that extra info our MC still doesn't have. Let's take the 2 games from my signature, in both of them we see some cutscenes with other characters but if I'm not mistaken the info unveiled in those sections is merely complementary to our MC's actions. It adds depth to the story but little else, which in my opinion is the way to go. The enemies shown are just doing their business as usual and our MC is going to be affected by them, but we already knew or suspect that and the most important choice we can make while having this asymmetric info is treating Henry (in CoBD) like a potential alley from the start and not as our enemy because we know he's just trying to protect Gloria - and it's not a big deal since we can recover that relationship with him the moment our MC realizes what's actually going on with her.

While in BaDIK players know Quinn is a person to avoid at any costs but we can't properly warn our dearest people even when having the option because 'MC still doesn't know all the implications', and later on, when the MC might have more insight depending on his choices, we're still waiting for him to stop and do the math. And honestly, I find it frustrating
 
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Holy Bacchus said:
In answer to the question, no, I don't think it damages the experience. In most cases, much like a TV show, it's giving us hints about what is to come and thus building up both our anticipation to see how these events will unfold, but also allowing us to think and to theorise about what will happen thus keeping us engaged.

It's only an issue when people forget that we are privy to much more information than the MC, like in the case of Quinn, that it becomes something of an issue when some people are assessing the MC's actions based on what we know and not what he knows. It's easy to judge the MC's action when you have all the information, but he doesn't, and people need to remember to separate those two things out when assessing and judging his actions.

Another issue can be when we see LIs being intimate with others because, even if it is something that has happened or is happening, it's not something most people want to see when they have an emotional investment in certain characters.

There are still lots of things we haven't seen and I don't expect DPC to spill every detail in these non-MC side scenes before the shock reveals, much like it was with the M&J reveal. So when it comes to someone like Bella, we'll get hints, teases, and maybe some parts of her story, but we'll still likely get blindsided by something that we didn't really see coming.
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ok, but when i watch a tv show i'm completely passive, then i can have favorite characters, but i can only pray for them ..

in a game it is not like that, regardless of genre, I am "responsible", at least in part, for what happens to the other characters, the ones I like and the ones I dislike.

if I see a danger and I cannot avoid it, it is as if my brakes were cut while I am driving. like in horror movies when we watch a character go towards certain death without knowing it. it is exciting, but as a frustration, not as a participation.

suppose DPC showed us the flashback of Derek, Maya and Josy's vacation before Josy's arrival in BR, we would have yelled "DON'T DO THIS !!!" in front of the PC screen continuously

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I swear if the Kingpin a stand user. I'm done :ROFLMAO:
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