VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[ename144]

I agree almost everything except the last part. . I don't think the flashback spoiled the outcome of hell week. We all knew they would be accepted, not being accepted would not make any sense. The flashback meaning was more than that. it is more in line with the end of the episode. or at least that how I see it.

"waiting for characters to catch up with the audience. " this part is true however, also, this can be said about any other thing, because we the audience have knowledge about stuff that the characters do not have. so they will always have to keep up, how they will react is where the flexibility and surprise can happen. I think

Having the audience know more than the characters isn't necessarily a problem, especially if you use it to build suspense. Alfred Hitchcock practically built his career out of making the audience beg for a character to notice something.

And I don't think the flashback ruined the Hell Week review. I just think it made the review fall flatter than it needed to because we had already seen all the events and we knew the final verdict. The only tension was whether the MC or Derek would win, and I suspect for most playthroughs even that was pretty foregone.

 

[SPACE_BOOOOOST]

I hate that that's everyone's gold standard for twist ending and it's far from the best. The gold standard should be either the usual suspects or fight club.

Or - alternatively - we could also not argue over something so clearly subjective and let others enjoy different things. Just throwing it out there, take it or leave it.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

The ending twist of The Sixth Sense (or any movie that has one for that matter) would be rather weak if you looked back at the rest of the story and couldn't find clues that hinted at it, that's kind of the point. Otherwise it's just something the writer pulled out of their ass last minute because they couldn't come up with a fitting closure. But Inception's ending is superb too, no arguments there.

As for the original topic, the reason I have faith in DPC coming up with something other than what we think we've figured out is because he has snuck in a few good ones already. Assuming he's out of creative and unexpected ideas would be an insult on my part. Like I said, I won't be upset if that whole "letter from mom" plot line ends up exactly as Bacchus predicted it, but I also won't stop hoping for something fresh until it actually happens.

So far, I would say that there hasn't been too much regarding the narrative and story that's been a "shock reveal" because we're still waiting on a lot of it to be revealed. The only big thing at the moment has been the M&J reveal, and I had that figured out by the start of ep 3.

I suppose we have to look again at AL and with that there certainly were a few shock moments and reveals, but there weren't as many story threads in that one as this one. With AL, the 2 biggest shock moments were the fire and Leah being a psycho stalker killer, and there were other smaller things like Liam's cancer not being real and geting dumped if you screwed around with other girls, but the scope of that game was a lot smaller than this one and certain things, like the potential polyamorous relationship with Megan and Melissa and getting Liam & Rena together, were quite predictable.

So, given that BaDIK is much bigger in scope, perhaps there's more potential for predictability than there was with AL, especially since the genre it's being based on is quite formulaic.

I hate that that's everyone's gold standard for twist ending and it's far from the best. The gold standard should be either the usual suspects or fight club.

Usual Suspects, yes, that's a great twist ending. I would also add Primal Fear to that as well.

Sixth Sense and Shyamalan are overrated.

 

[LazerShark]

I'm not the only one who thinks Anthony is better president material than Dawe, right? Even though he is stupid, he has actually shown to be a reasonable dude for most part of the game. This is just my opinion, but if he was president instead of Dawe, I wouldn't imagine any scenario where the alphas would trash our mansion. What about you? What's your opinion on Anthony?

 

[Dashxp4k]

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[ChipLecsap]

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episode 3 ending is incorrect, the actual ending, is who you stay with .
but so far each one was good enough. I do think however that ep5 with that ending , and with everything overall , would feel better as a season finale, rather than a season opener. season 1 with the end of whether we get the jacket or not cliffhanger felt cheap.
ep 5 should have been the end of Season 1, I think people would feel, more satisfied.

 

[Dashxp4k]

If you chose Derrek in episode.

 

[cryhwks]

I wish there would have been an option to stay with Jill at the end of Episode 3.

 

[AntiFlash]

Do you think that in this Episode 6 we will have a sex scene with Jill?

 

[Mistrophera]

Do you think that in this Episode 6 we will have a sex scene with Jill?

It will certainly have something hotter than her and MC just making out, maybe we can finally see her fully naked, but a for a full-on sex scene, I very much doubt.

 

[Randy6524793]

when will be the next update

 

[Wizard_Shiryuu]

Nah, predictability can be fun. That moment when something happens that you saw coming and you go, "Hah! I knew it!", can be quite enjoyable.

If he does something different and it works, that'll be fine too and I could see a few ways where the episode could end even before he goes home and gets the letter, but ending on that note just seems right because it's a tried and true way to tease your audience in the most agonising and effective way, especially when we know how many months it will be before we find out the contents of the letter.

Technically the letter was already this episode's cliffhanger, I would't like to use the same thing twice. I'd expect to know something more about what's in it and get a WTF moment at least, not leave us with the same info two episodes in a row.

And get more info about Chad's blackmail, we don't know anything more about it since episode 2 .

 

[lemonfreak]

The revelation of who his Mom was and what Neil actually knew but didn't tell him. But that won't happen until ep 7 because you just know that the MC opening the letter is going to be a cliffhanger ending.

Interesting that you think it'll be in 7 because I think it'll be 8 but I'm not sure whether I believe that for storytelling purposes or because I think the shot of MC's face, upon reading the letter, would be one hell of a cliffhanger at the end of the next Steam version.

I'm not the only one who thinks Anthony is better president material than Dawe, right? Even though he is stupid, he has actually shown to be a reasonable dude for most part of the game. This is just my opinion, but if he was president instead of Dawe, I wouldn't imagine any scenario where the alphas would trash our mansion. What about you? What's your opinion on Anthony?

You're not alone in that thought and I also suspect Anthony is less stupid and more mouthbefore brain. Or, at the very least, no more stupid than a 35 year old who has repeatedly failed English and Maths 101

 

[felicemastronzo]

expectations on the twist about MC's mother seem exaggerated to me.

I still believe it unlikely, or in any case a stretch in the plot, that a boy of twenty has no idea who his mother is, we are used to stories of adopted children who do everything to find out who their real parents are while MC would be satisfied with know the name of a mother he has never seen ..

ok, let's say I accept it.

Why should he be upset about being a Burgmeister? it could only be good news (even though he already knew that his mother's family was rich) or at least not change anything for his life.

the hypothesis that he is a Royce was, rightly, discarded, but it would already make more sense as a twist, it would have a direct effect on his life (but too limited, if he does not care about Jill it would still be insignificant)

if it will be an important twist it must be something more important and personal.

even the idea that the mother is still alive (crazy in an asylum? ex toxic in a rehab?) would seem extreme to me, and in that case it would completely break the relationship between MC and his father.

I also point to something we have not thought of (which I hope DPC has thought well)

 

[Ragnar]

I don't think the MC is a Buggermaster or a Royce, It would be cheap and too convenient going to your family college without knowing it. My bet is we saw MC's grandpa in the preps party and we will meet him later, a rich dude with connections but not a B&R.

 

[lemonfreak]

expectations on the twist about MC's mother seem exaggerated to me.

I still believe it unlikely, or in any case a stretch in the plot, that a boy of twenty has no idea who his mother is, we are used to stories of adopted children who do everything to find out who their real parents are while MC would be satisfied with know the name of a mother he has never seen ..

ok, let's say I accept it.

Why should he be upset about being a Burgmeister? it could only be good news (even though he already knew that his mother's family was rich) or at least not change anything for his life.

the hypothesis that he is a Royce was, rightly, discarded, but it would already make more sense as a twist, it would have a direct effect on his life (but too limited, if he does not care about Jill it would still be insignificant)

if it will be an important twist it must be something more important and personal.

even the idea that the mother is still alive (crazy in an asylum? ex toxic in a rehab?) would seem extreme to me, and in that case it would completely break the relationship between MC and his father.

I also point to something we have not thought of (which I hope DPC has thought well)

Replying mostly to the bolded section ... I think you're misreading the situation, MC isn't an adopted kid looking for his birth parents, he knows who his parents are/were, it's the family of his mother that he doesn't know and, from what we've seen, doesn't care to know.

In this context, him being a Burgmeister means very little (him being a Royce would for the reasons you pointed out but we know that ain't happening)

As for the rest of your post, 100% agree, it would be terrible to discover that Neil had been lying about Lynette being dead for 18 years (MC is 18, nearly 19, btw, not 20), he's been presented as a loving and supportive father who, despite being broke, does everything he possibly can for his son in stark contrast to Lynette's father who cut her off for the unforgivable crime of falling in love with one of the serfs.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Replying mostly to the bolded section ... I think you're misreading the situation, MC isn't an adopted kid looking for his birth parents, he knows who his parents are/were, it's the family of his mother that he doesn't know and, from what we've seen, doesn't care to know.

In this context, him being a Burgmeister means very little (him being a Royce would for the reasons you pointed out but we know that ain't happening)

As for the rest of your post, 100% agree, it would be terrible to discover that Neil had been lying about Lynette being dead for 18 years (MC is 18, nearly 19, btw, not 20), he's been presented as a loving and supportive father who, despite being broke, does everything he possibly can for his son in stark contrast to Lynette's father who cut her off for the unforgivable crime of falling in love with one of the serfs.

I probably misspelled

mine was a comparison between two situations

I meant that in movies, in books we often read about adopted children who do everything to get to know their parents

MC, who I know has not been adopted (apparently), it is hardly credible that in 18-19 years he has never asked any questions, some research, on his mother, a figure he certainly missed.

even the fact that his mother's family didn't care for him couldn't have been indifferent to him in his childhood, could he never have wanted to know who they are?

 

[lemonfreak]

I probably misspelled

mine was a comparison between two situations

I meant that in movies, in books we often read about adopted children who do everything to get to know their parents

MC, who I know has not been adopted (apparently), it is hardly credible that in 18-19 years he has never asked any questions, some research, on his mother, a figure he certainly missed.

even the fact that his mother's family didn't care for him couldn't have been indifferent to him in his childhood, could he never have wanted to know who they are?

Considering English isn't your first language, I find you to be remarkably clear

However, I think you are mistaken in your assumption that, in 18 years, MC has never asked questions about his mother's family, rather, it is most likely that, by the age of 18, MC has asked every question, and recieved every answer, that he wants and is no longer curious about them.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Considering English isn't your first language, I find you to be remarkably clear

However, I think you are mistaken in your assumption that, in 18 years, MC has never asked questions about his mother's family, rather, it is most likely that, by the age of 18, MC has asked every question, and recieved every answer, that he wants and is no longer curious about them.

you're right, I exasperated the concept

but among all these questions would there not be the name of his mother's family? who they are? What are they doing? where they live?

 

[Sleeping In Pieces]

but among all these questions would there not be the name of his mother's family? who they are? What are they doing? where they live?

Why? They've had no impact up until now on his day to day life.
Disowning is a real thing. Rich families do occasionally cut members off and by all accounts this is what happened to his mother after she married below her station. He's simply learned not to expect much from that direction.