VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Holy Bacchus]

I said "i wish" right? Didnt say i know or something like that, dont need to be a time traveler to wish for something

But even the act of "wishing" assumes that such a choice has to be made because of the belief that you can't have both, and whilst that might be the case on the friendship path, it's not necessarily true of the throuple path as this could be the way to have both of them.

 

[michael1984]

Yeah the good old maya and josy seminar ... We had pages and essays and revieuws about those 2 characters maybe 40 pages long

At least this update seems promissing ... probally getting a dik mansion make over montage at the start of the new episode

Then some birthday celebration with maybe a love interest and derek pops in as welll

Some much needed quality time with Jill who is not ready for that to happen finally rite !!!

The much needed conclusion to the whole chad and sage and mystery cheater

And some comedy relief with a D&D game

November gonna be hectic

 

[Micmic15]

But even the act of "wishing" assumes that such a choice has to be made because of the belief that you can't have both, and whilst that might be the case on the friendship path, it's not necessarily true of the throuple path as this could be the way to have both of them.

Cmon smartypants if i assume that the choice has to be made, i shouldnt use "wish" instead ill use "want" . Its a Wish ffs. If thats still not good then, "i hope there a choice in the end that you can have both of them" is that enough?

 

[felicemastronzo]

As do we all. We can recognise the faults of our friends and relatives and moan about them and even chastise them for it, but that doesn't mean we don'y love them deep down.

you are right, but there is no trace of this love in the game, we can assume, but there are no clues in this direction

Because that's another example of the lack of communication and not fully understanding each other. Maya likely perceives Josy's awkwardness is because of the messages she sent her and the general underlying, unresolved relationship problems. Meanwhile, I think Josy does recognise that the MC and Maya have formed some sort of bond, which is why it's awkward for her because the MC is, in her view, friends with her girlfriend that she didn't tell him about and that's what the issue is for her.

So it's a perception issue as each likely perceives the situation differently and they're also so focused on what happened between each of them and the MC that it's clouding their judgement a bit and probably preventing them from recognising obvious signs. However, as the viewers/players, those are signs are obvious to us because we know but it may not be obvious to them even it they weren't in a heightened emotional state.

sorry but we are not talking about a communication problem but about two girls pretending not to see what happens in front of their eyes

each of them knows that the other has betrayed her, but, out of guilt, they pretend nothing has happened until MC explains it to them blatantly, and at that point they forgive each other (but eventually do not forgive MC)

in my opinion they are a couple that makes no sense to exist, but resists everything because it serves the plot, when it no longer needs it it will take a moment to make it collapse.

 

[michael1984]

Speaking of wishing Can i wish for a solo Josy path

 

[wholef'nshow]

I have only one thing to say...

Finally! <3

 

[AntiFlash]

For me to update with Patch I have to download which version of the Game? Someone help me?

 

[felicemastronzo]

For me to update with Patch I have to download which version of the Game? Someone help me?

this one

Technically the full 0.5.2 version in the OP, but that is one where the files have been unpacked which won't work with the update patch. If the links are not updated to a version that isn't unpacked, then you'll need to download the whole 11GB game when it's released.

 

[Melissa fan]

Speaking of wishing Can i wish for a solo Josy path

I wish for that too. I have my Josy save ready I hope it doesn't take too long.

 

[AntiFlash]

this one

I don't understand, so I have to download version 0.5.2?

 

[Holy Bacchus]

you are right, but there is no trace of this love in the game, we can assume, but there are no clues in this direction

Well, I've known people who talk all sorts of shit about their relatives. One particular friend moaned constantly about their brother and I actually said to them, "You really do hate you brother", to which they said, "Nah, they're just annoying, but I still love 'em".

Just because they don't make it obvious, doesn't mean it isn't there. The fact that she won't stand up to him could be the subtle hint that she loves him because she's hoping she can make him come around to the idea of her and Josy and this is something quite common in the LGBT community where people whose parents disowned them for their lifestyle still love their parents and hope to one day reconcile.

sorry but we are not talking about a communication problem but about two girls pretending not to see what happens in front of their eyes

each of them knows that the other has betrayed her, but, out of guilt, they pretend nothing has happened until MC explains it to them blatantly, and at that point they forgive each other (but eventually do not forgive MC)

in my opinion they are a couple that makes no sense to exist, but resists everything because it serves the plot, when it no longer needs it it will take a moment to make it collapse.

Josy believes Maya to be 100% gay, so her assuming that something happened between the MC and Maya seems like a bit of stretch and we even see that she is shocked to find this out in ep 4. The air of guilt and awkwardness each of them has could simply be interpreted by each of them as having to do with the vicious back-and-forth messaging and the general issues they've been having because they kind of just swept it under the rug at the start of ep 4 and didn't properly address things.

Also, with the MC acting cold towards both of them, they each are viewing it as coldness towards themselves and not the other person, therefore it's easy to not recognise that awkwardness in another when you're feeling it so much yourself. People experiencing heightened emotional states can suffer from what's called "social-emotional agnosia" which is basically an inability to recognise non-verbal cues in other people that show their emotional state, and this could be what's happening here. For example, when a person is experiencing extreme grief, they may not recognise when someone else is also feeling it just the same or more then them because they're so focused on how they themselves are feeling that they can't see it in others.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Download the 0.5.0 in the OP (Torrent link) it will work fine with the patch

Thanks

For me to update with Patch I have to download which version of the Game? Someone help me?

I just downloaded the torrent linked in the OP to check it out and even though it says "0.5.0" in the OP, it is actually the 0.5.2 version and it too is also unpacked. This means that all links in the OP are for unpacked versions of the game, so anyone who has downloaded these will not be able to use the patch and will have to download the full of version of 0.6.0 when it's released.

Anyone with version 0.5.0 or 0.5.1 and who haven't unpacked or modded them will be able to use the patch.

 

[AntiFlash]

I just downloaded the torrent linked in the OP to check it out and even though it says "0.5.0" in the OP, it is actually the 0.5.2 version and it too is also unpacked. This means that all links in the OP are for unpacked versions of the game, so anyone who has downloaded these will not be able to use the patch and will have to download the full of version of 0.6.0 when it's released.

Anyone with version 0.5.0 or 0.5.1 and who haven't unpacked or modded them will be able to use the patch.

What is OP?

 

[felicemastronzo]

Josy believes Maya to be 100% gay, so her assuming that something happened between the MC and Maya seems like a bit of stretch and we even see that she is shocked to find this out in ep 4. The air of guilt and awkwardness each of them has could simply be interpreted by each of them as having to do with the vicious back-and-forth messaging and the general issues they've been having because they kind of just swept it under the rug at the start of ep 4 and didn't properly address things.

Also, with the MC acting cold towards both of them, they each are viewing it as coldness towards themselves and not the other person, therefore it's easy to not recognise that awkwardness in another when you're feeling it so much yourself. People experiencing heightened emotional states can suffer from what's called "social-emotional agnosia" which is basically an inability to recognise non-verbal cues in other people that show their emotional state, and this could be what's happening here. For example, when a person is experiencing extreme grief, they may not recognise when someone else is also feeling it just the same or more then them because they're so focused on how they themselves are feeling that they can't see it in others.

do you see how many justifications, how many excuses, you have to give to make the episode credible?

they are justifications, even credible, that you have to imagine yourself, but that are not in the game.

all these justifications give the picture of two girls who do not know each other at all (after all they went on a camping trip together, after which we do not know ...) who have many more experiences and characteristics to separate them than to keep them together. two girls who even stay in the same room for 24 hours a day don't communicate with each other.

then I also agree with you, yours "forced" reconstruction is credible. but for me the point is that the couple need to resist and that's why they resist

 

[Odin73]

Only after he finishes the entire season

Ahhh gotcha, thanks

 

[moskyx]

What is OP?

Opening Post. The first message in the thread, where all the links are

 

[Holy Bacchus]

What is OP?

"Original Post", in this case referring to the very first post of this thread.

do you see how many justifications, how many excuses, you have to give to make the episode credible?

they are justifications, even credible, that you have to imagine yourself, but that are not in the game.

all these justifications give the picture of two girls who do not know each other at all (after all they went on a camping trip together, after which we do not know ...) who have many more experiences and characteristics to separate them than to keep them together. two girls who even stay in the same room for 24 hours a day communicate with each other.

then I also agree with you, yours is a "forced" reconstruction is credible. but for me the point is that the couple need to resist and that's why they resist

Of course, there are going to be forced elements in stories like this, as well as big gaping holes in the story where not everything is explained in detail, but that's what leads to all this speculation and it's what I love most about this game.

I enjoy the analytical aspect of this game, to assess the characters based on what we see and to ascribe meaning behind their words and actions. It certainly can be considered "imagining" things about them that may not necessarily be true to try and make sense of it all, but that's fun for me.

 

[n0cn1l]

I don't understand, so I have to download version 0.5.2?

What version i need for only download the patch when episode 6 is released ?

Problem solved. Enjoy

 

[felicemastronzo]

"Original Post", in this case referring to the very first post of this thread.



Of course, there are going to be forced elements in stories like this, as well as big gaping holes in the story where not everything is explained in detail, but that's what leads to all this speculation and it's what I love most about this game.

I enjoy the analytical aspect of this game, to assess the characters based on what we see and to ascribe meaning behind their words and actions. It certainly can be considered "imagining" things about them that may not necessarily be true to try and make sense of it all, but that's fun for me.

and on this I have always been in full agreement with you.

but what comes out is the portrait of a couple who, when they should finally get closer, have the aim of explaining, justifying themselves, with their "lover", while between them they continue not to face their betrayal.

this is a very, very fragile couple, isn't it? a couple with a very short history, who betray at the first opportunity and who do not even have the strength to face this betrayal.

on the other hand, when they are confronted with their mutual betrayal, the two girls overcome everything, practically using a plot armor for sentimental problems ...

this sense of fragility is what then emerges during the picnic, each of them does not know if the other would really choose her in the end.

they are a couple waiting for their role to end

 

[Gh0st_Harambe]

Problem solved. Enjoy

Thanks