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Holy Bacchus said:
I agree that him being in the room represents a new danger to Maya and Josy given that he can enter their room unannounced at any time, but I disagree very strongly that this danger is somehow "cancelled" by them not having a full confrontation where he finds out about Josy.

If he's not in the room when they get back, then the danger is ever-present but unknown to them which creates tension and suspense for the players/audience not knowing when he'll strike again. It's a like a show ending with the psycho stalker in the house as the protag enters, then in the next episode nothing happens because the stalker had time to flee before they fully opened the door. We as the audience are now on edge not knowing when they'll return or what they'll do.

As for Josy being able to remain undiscovered, it keeps the pressure of Maya's Dad on their relationship because just when they thought they were safe to spend time together, they now have to keep their distance as much as possible, not knowing when her Dad might show up again and this slight separation coupled with Maya still not standing up to her Dad in defense of their relationship can put the kind of strain on their relationship that could result in possible break-up and solo paths.

So neither of these would be "useless" just because the cliffhanger doesn't resolve itself in all 3 entering the room and having a confrontation with Maya's Dad where he officially cuts her off. They're actually more useful in many ways at deepening the drama of their situation and opening up new issues and difficulties for them to tackle.
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it's not what I'm talking about

I am strictly referring to the situation in which the girls do not meet him but know that he has been there (as in the scenario where only Maya enters, or where they see him leave etc).

if instead they simply do not encounter it, it is a different situation, in which this danger is postponed.

everything that would then happen between Maya and Josy should have happened the same, it is not related to the sudden visit of Maya's father

Josy had to leave Maya's room anyway (until they resolve the tuition issue)

Maya has to face her father equally (since in addition to the tuition issue she stated that her father could ruin her financially forever)



more then to point out: I don't even like the scenario in which they find him in the room, because it would be just a big drama, but that could hardly lead to a conciliation or a real development
 
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sper3 said:
I honestly wouldn't mind if MC gave his money to Maya if that would be of some help to her, i just want to see her settled and move on with her life and yes this might not solve her every problem but at least it will help her
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Giving Maya the MC's money is like giving money to a homeless person, you'll see them out there the next day asking for more.
 
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Could you guys imagine this scene? MC orders from the restaurant right in episode whatever. He does his thing, puts it through the glory hole and on the other side you hear Josy say your MC's name.
Oh the memes to be had. The josy fanbase would be going wild.
 
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Casmyr said:
Could you guys imagine this scene? MC orders from the restaurant right in episode whatever. He does his thing, puts it through the glory hole and on the other side you hear Josy say your MC's name.
Oh the memes to be had. The josy fanbase would be going wild.
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Damn, You did so well before this(n)
 
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DavDR said:
Giving Maya the MC's money is like giving money to a homeless person, you'll see them out there the next day asking for more.
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Agreed... it's still better option than giving it to Quinn but not by much. Hopefully we will not be forced to give it to either of them, no matter what playtrough we are in.
 
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Ripe said:
Agreed... it's still better option than giving it to Quinn but not by much. Hopefully we will not be forced to give it to either of them, no matter what playtrough we are in.
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Yeah but you have to give Quinn some credit, he offered it to her and she said no and that it was stupid to offer it.
 
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Casmyr said:
Could you guys imagine this scene? MC orders from the restaurant right in episode whatever. He does his thing, puts it through the glory hole and on the other side you hear Josy say your MC's name.
Oh the memes to be had. The josy fanbase would be going wild.
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Why would Josey be there, her tuition is already paid for?
 
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DavDR said:
Why would Josey be there, her tuition is already paid for?
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Because girls just want to have fun

ChipLecsap bruh id take it back if I could but its been quoted and the damage has been done. I saw your reaction and message. I cowered in the dik lounge but I've come to face my crime against the josy fan club
 
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DavDR said:
Yeah but you have to give Quinn some credit, he offered it to her and she said no and that it was stupid to offer it.
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She did? Oh yeah, I'm guessing that is during E4 threesome? Never got to play through that since I always avoid Quinn, no matter what the play-trough. But keep in mind that she did that while she still thought she could get out of the mess by herself... I'm not so sure she'd turn it down now so no, I'm not giving her credit (she is right, it was beyond stupid to offer).

And besides, didn't Maya told him to get serious when he said that he'd pay off her tuition if he suddenly get rich?
 
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Kellermann said:
What I'd like to see for ep. 7 I'm not asking for much. Just some basic story progression. Subplots from season 1 moving towards a conclusion. Sage happy and healthy again. Same with Derek. A sexy scene or two with the girl of your choice and just some general fun. That's all. Oh and another encounter with KRJ for the delight of our best-loved Italian.
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More or less this, though I doubt Sage will be happy given how into Chad she was. I'll consider it a win if we see her happier and finally learn something about why she was so smitten.


Holy Bacchus said:
I really don't get why you think that there being no confrontation or Josy being able to hide away from the confrontation would "destroy the cliffhanger". Cliffhangers don't need to be resolved in the way you expect them to, they're sometimes just meant to tease the possibility of something happening later or to make you think something big is going to happen but ultimately resolve it quite easily and with less fuss than first thought.

It's like if an episode of a TV show ends with a bomb that's about to explode and kill one of the main cast members; you might expect it to blow up because that's what bombs are designed to do and that's what it appears is going to happen, but what's more likely to happen is that the bomb will either be defused by somebody else, or the character will manage to escape it, or it will be a dud, and this will happen in the first 5-10 minutes of the next episode. The rest of the episode, or even season, will then be focused on finding the person responsible.

This doesn't "destroy the cliffhanger" because the cliffhanger doesn't always have to have a straightforward and obvious resolution in the next episode. 'Lost' was a show that frequently ended on cliffhangers and teasing endings that weren't addressed in the very next episode, but were just meant to build towards future events. If Maya's Dad isn't there when they get back it builds tension for later because you never know when he'll return, or if he is there and Josy can avoid being seen by him then this at least gives some resolution to the cliffhanger but still keeps his imposing presence in place in order to be the key source of problems for the M&J relationship drama.
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I agree there are lots of ways to resolve a cliffhanger, but I don't think they are all created equal. The more the cliff is hyped up (by whatever means), the more it needs to pose a genuine threat to our heroes when they finally reach it. Even if the cliff isn't as tall as we first thought, even if the resolution only delays the cliff until the next episode, SOMETHING has to balance the threat of the cliff. Otherwise, there's no release for the tension that was built up, which usually results in the audience getting angry at the cliff instead. The mere knowledge that the cliff could have been a theoretical obstacle is too nebulous to support that tension once it reaches a high enough threshold.

Where does Maya's dad breaking into her room rank on the cliff-o-meter? I'd say it's low enough that a skirmish which delays the final confrontation would be acceptable catharsis, but too high for him to leave before our heroes know he was there. Just my opinion, of course, and we'll obviously need to see the scene before we can really analyze it.
 
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