VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Xaos]

I really hope in next chapter, we can avoid Jill.. Like we really should tell her 'Im not interested in you' or something if you avoiding her path. But then I remember what DPC said before the game came out 'Some events will be forced for the sake of the story.' Its like Jill story. Where u can't say 'Im not interested in you'
In Episode 5, And again im not in her path. She even kiss you in Bella's house before you both sleep, and you can't avoid that kiss.(Also IDK if it because im playing with mod. That night kiss is forced right? Even if you not in her path?)
Like bro I just want to end up with Bella without big drama. Don't want to break Jill's heart. But knowing DPC.. Well..

 

[Hermith]

I really hope in next chapter, we can avoid Jill.. Like we really should tell her 'Im not interested in you' or something if you avoiding her path. But then I remember what DPC said before the game came out 'Some events will be forced for the sake of the story.' Its like Jill story. Where u can't say 'Im not interested in you'
In Episode 5, And again im not in her path. She even kiss you in Bella's house before you both sleep, and you can't avoid that kiss.(Also IDK if it because im playing with mod. That night kiss is forced right? Even if you not in her path?)
Like bro I just want to end up with Bella without big drama. Don't want to break Jill's heart. But knowing DPC.. Well..

I'm sorry, but you'll have to break Jill's heart and Bella will murder the mc for that. While the two of them make up they will burry the mc somewhere near Bella's late husband... "He wasn't right for any of us."

 

[The Pink Royce]

I really hope in next chapter, we can avoid Jill.. Like we really should tell her 'Im not interested in you' or something if you avoiding her path. But then I remember what DPC said before the game came out 'Some events will be forced for the sake of the story.' Its like Jill story. Where u can't say 'Im not interested in you'
In Episode 5, And again im not in her path. She even kiss you in Bella's house before you both sleep, and you can't avoid that kiss.(Also IDK if it because im playing with mod. That night kiss is forced right? Even if you not in her path?)
Like bro I just want to end up with Bella without big drama. Don't want to break Jill's heart. But knowing DPC.. Well..

you can do that if Bella doesnt likeMC. Jill will still protect MC from Tybalt and want to hang out .
she just cares for MC.

MC asked her out on the date not other way around .

edit my advice would be dont go for her RP . dont get -RP
dont kiss her or shower with her on the date . and when MC asks her out . choose "because Tybalt"
the game will note that .

 

[vogelbeest]

Pleaseeee help! I want to continue the game

Some problems only happen in the compressed versions, there may be some fixes somewhere in this thread but goodluck on finding them in nearly 7k pages...

Best bet for now is installing the full version of the game and the full version update, (and an updated walkthough/cheat mod if you happen to use that...) Atleast i have not had any problems with them so far...

 

[Xaos]

I'm sorry, but you'll have to break Jill's heart and Bella will murder the mc for that. While the two of them make up they will burry the mc somewhere near Bella's late husband... "He wasn't right for any of us."

Well, still a better ending than GoT

 

[Niu6609]

If i for example, we go back to my scene with Bella in the car, it was totally lame because i did not had any choice. If she had told be about this and asked me to explain what i had done, i could have talked with her and she would have given me the choice to pursue with her and give up about the other girls and then trying with her to find a way to clean up the situation with her friend Jill.
But if the game lets you go very far with all the girls without warning (other girls getting jalous and pissed) and then in the end just choose a girl for you based on your past events without letting you anything to say, i'm out.
I have played many other games for example Where the heart is, where you can pursue all girls but at a certain point you can just talk with the girl and stop her path when you see that it will become impossible to go on without getting problems.
But what i totally hate, is that someone suddently tap me on the shoulder and tells me "you are an asshole y ditch you because ten years ago, you stole my cookie" !!

I mean, this is more realistic in a way. IMO Bella's been through a lot considering her age, and she herself knew that her relationship with MC was immoral and adulterous. My opinion is that she's been feeling unloved and unsatisfied for far too long, leading her to want to continue her relationship with MC although she knew that it was wrong, because she wanted to feel what she's been missing out on for so long.

Additionally, imagine the extra dialogue DPC would have to think of in the event you wanted to explain the situation to Bella. Imagine actually explaining yourself fucking another woman in a married woman's (who you're also having an affair with) personal car. Even after you explain yourself you'd still be ostracized by her too. This is more realistic in a way, rather than having Bella forgive you for fucking someone in her car. She probably has her limits too, and knows when they're crossed. IRL, unless you're madly in love with someone or just a pushover, something like this wouldn't go unpunished.

Ok, all arguing and bitching aside. I just gotta give a huge thanks to DPC for introducing me to The Friday Prophets. This band is fucking awesome.

IKR? Before playing BaD I'd heard of The Friday Prophets but never really gave them a listen, but right after playing the game, Punk Rock Flu became one of my favourite songs. The voice and instrumental are incredibly enjoyable and fun, and Amsterdam is a great listen too.

I remember right after finishing my first run, I went on YT looking for the BaD soundtrack, and added them all to my playlist. Had Chukura's Lonely on repeat for a few days too. Kinda sad that Lonely and Absentrealities' "Three's A Crowd" aren't on Spotify, but hey, at least YT has 'em.

Yes of course, but why did Bella wait untill now to tell me this, she found the panties certainly the next day i drove Cathy home, so she could have called me and asked me about what i had done.

There're a few possibilities:

1. She had an internal conflict when she found out about it and was having an internal debate about what her next move should be.
2. She was thinking about the MC too much to notice a pair of panties lying in her car.
3. The panties were in her glove compartment and she didn't really have a reason to open them up until recently.

In any case, what's done is done, and Bella is off the radar if you've fucked Cathy

 

[ename144]

for what reason? Cathe is not married, which makes a relationship with her much easier than a relationship with Bella, in any respect.

But then in your answer at the end you say what I say... Bella should break up with Mc right away for Jill, but she doesn't do it because of her weakness, because she's involved, instead she just takes the run in with Cathe to end a complicated relationship

ending things with Mc because of Cathe is an excuse for Bella not to have to face what she's doing behind Jill's back and behind her husband's back (if he's alive).

She chooses a lesser motive because she can't face the greater one.

It's not either or, it's both and.

Bella is trying to rationalize a way to pursue the MC. Pursuing him at the same time as Jill is already stretching Bella's rationalization to its limit. No surprise that adding yet another factor that would need to be rationalized (like Cathy) is enough to bring the whole thing crashing down. Once her rationalization is broken, Bella is able to definitively call things off with the MC.

Absent Cathy, Bella is finally willing to commit to pursuing the MC (as shown by her removing her ring at the end of the episode). She's still not able to come clean to Jill, though, because that has a host of other problems attached to it (the big ones are admitting to seeing the MC behind Jill's back and having to deal with the forbidden nature of their relationship). But the matter is obviously not resolved, and further complications might force Bella to take action again.

As for Cathy being unmarried, that's not really relevant: Cathy can't have a relationship with a student whether she's single or not.

Bella's own marriage only matters because of her personal hang-ups. If Bella really is willing to enter into a relationship with the MC, there's plenty of time between now and when the MC graduates (or Bella transfers) to end what's left of her marriage. (Given what we've seen, she could almost certainly have already divorced James if she had been so inclined).

In theory, the same could be true with Cathy, it's just that it's a ludicrously implausible path to attempt. Bella can recognize how implausible it is when she sees it objectively with Cathy in a way that she couldn't see when looking at it from her own point of view.

That's how I see it, at any rate.

 

[Niu6609]

I haven't seen this scene since I'm not doing a Bella playthru. Just one question though, how does Bella know that these are Cathy's panties?

I mean, she knows that they aren't hers. She probably knows what kind of panties Jill wears, and knows that MC doesn't wear panties either (or this was one of her early guesses, idk). By process of elimination, the only remaining person who's been in her car is Cathy, and that was when the MC drove her home. As a functional human being, I believe she has enough brain to put two and two together and get the whole picture.

I really hope in next chapter, we can avoid Jill.. Like we really should tell her 'Im not interested in you' or something if you avoiding her path. But then I remember what DPC said before the game came out 'Some events will be forced for the sake of the story.' Its like Jill story. Where u can't say 'Im not interested in you'
In Episode 5, And again im not in her path. She even kiss you in Bella's house before you both sleep, and you can't avoid that kiss.(Also IDK if it because im playing with mod. That night kiss is forced right? Even if you not in her path?)
Like bro I just want to end up with Bella without big drama. Don't want to break Jill's heart. But knowing DPC.. Well..

I'm hoping for this too. As a Sage main, I wanna get off Jill's route ASAP before she becomes overly attached to my MC and gets hurt when I break the news to her. The kissing in Bella's house was a choice IIRC, in the scene before where you could've chosen to take her hand or not. That choice was probably the catalyst for the make-out session. I wouldn't put my hopes too high for a solo Bella route, because that in itself seems like it's gonna take a lot of work to make sense of. I can already imagine the betrayal in Jill's eyes when she finds out her crush likes her best friend. Like, dude, god damn. That shit'll probably hurt like hell. DPC would have to prepare a plethora of different scenes just to have the whole scenario make sense IMO, else the quality of the story-telling and the game would just go down the drain.

However, I do think that there's a chance the Bella route would never actually happen, or would result in a bad ending. The reason is because back when MC first makes out with Bella, and she cries over it because she felt that it was wrong, there was a quick monologue where the MC just thinks something along the lines of "At the time, I couldn't understand why Bella was crying. Had I known what was going on in her mind, I wouldn't have done it." So this feels like some sort of a red flag.

 

[felicemastronzo]

It's not either or, it's both and.

Bella is trying to rationalize a way to pursue the MC. Pursuing him at the same time as Jill is already stretching Bella's rationalization to its limit. No surprise that adding yet another factor that would need to be rationalized (like Cathy) is enough to bring the whole thing crashing down. Once her rationalization is broken, Bella is able to definitively call things off with the MC.

Absent Cathy, Bella is finally willing to commit to pursuing the MC (as shown by her removing her ring at the end of the episode). She's still not able to come clean to Jill, though, because that has a host of other problems attached to it (the big ones are admitting to seeing the MC behind Jill's back and having to deal with the forbidden nature of their relationship). But the matter is obviously not resolved, and further complications might force Bella to take action again.

As for Cathy being unmarried, that's not really relevant: Cathy can't have a relationship with a student whether she's single or not.

Bella's own marriage only matters because of her personal hang-ups. If Bella really is willing to enter into a relationship with the MC, there's plenty of time between now and when the MC graduates (or Bella transfers) to end what's left of her marriage. (Given what we've seen, she could almost certainly have already divorced James if she had been so inclined).

In theory, the same could be true with Cathy, it's just that it's a ludicrously implausible path to attempt. Bella can recognize how implausible it is when she sees it objectively with Cathy in a way that she couldn't see when looking at it from her own point of view.

That's how I see it, at any rate.

there is no prohibition of relationship between student and teacher if they are of age, at most it is inconvenient for the school (but since Cathe is transferring there is not even this problem anymore) , but also Bella is a teacher and will be a teacher of Mc next semester.

How is the fact that Bella is married insignificant?
of course she can get divorced but that doesn't take away from the fact that for a married woman to have an extramarital affair is much more complicated than for a woman to have an affair with a "only" much younger guy.

It seems to me that Bella continues to follow her emotions, and that she doesn't rationalize much. Staying over at the DIKs is the least rational thing a teacher should do, competing with her best friend for a boyfriend is rational?

the emotions got Bella into a complicated situation, from my point of view almost with no way out, and Cathe gave her the chance to get out of it. Without Cathe, in fact, she sinks even further into this double relationship (possibly, not obligatory) from which all three will come out very badly.

 

[Xaos]

However, I do think that there's a chance the Bella route would never actually happen, or would result in a bad ending. The reason is because back when MC first makes out with Bella, and she cries over it because she felt that it was wrong, there was a quick monologue where the MC just thinks something along the lines of "At the time, I couldn't understand why Bella was crying. Had I known what was going on in her mind, I wouldn't have done it." So this feels like some sort of a red flag.

I wouldn't say that man. Bella is Main LI like the other 4 girls. If there wouldn't be good ending with her, then why would DPC make her as a LI?

"At the time, I couldn't understand why Bella was crying. Had I known what was going on in her mind, I wouldn't have done it."

This thing still worries me, not gonna lie. But that could be anything tbh. (If u ask me this will be about her husband) I'm sure there will be happy ending with each main LI. Can you imagine where 4 Main LI gets happy ending aside from Bella? That would be some kind of milking. If you making a Main LI you need to make good ending with her or 'natural-bad' endings. She's not some kind of Side character. So I don't bet on that.

I can already imagine the betrayal in Jill's eyes when she finds out her crush likes her best friend. Like, dude, god damn. That shit'll probably hurt like hell.

That's why I'm saying we need to tell her 'I'm not interested in you' before to late.

 

[ename144]

I haven't seen this scene since I'm not doing a Bella playthru. Just one question though, how does Bella know that these are Cathy's panties?

Here's the sequence:

The implication seems to be that Bella knows they aren't hers and can't think of anyone else's they could be. So if the MC insists on continuing their relationship she confronts him with the panties and her suspicions. She takes his pause and lame excuse making as confirmation.

I find it fairly plausible, IF we assume she didn't find the panties until after she helped the MC clean his room. Since the panties were presumably not in plain sight (otherwise Cathy or the MC would have noticed them) and since Bella doesn't drive people around very often, I can believe it might take her a few days to find them and figure out where they came from.

there is no prohibition of relationship between student and teacher if they are of age, at most it is inconvenient for the school (but since Cathe is transferring there is not even this problem anymore) , but also Bella is a teacher and will be a teacher of Mc next semester.

There is absolutely a most definite prohibition on relationships between teachers and students. Both the game and real life make that exceedingly clear.

It's true that Cathy transferring would solve that problem, but Cathy's resignation hadn't been announced yet.

It seems to me that Bella continues to follow her emotions, and that she doesn't rationalize much. Staying over at the DIKs is the least rational thing a teacher should do, competing with her best friend for a boyfriend is rational?

Perhaps this is a language barrier issue, but rationalization in this context is the process by which someone constructs a chain of reasoning to justify taking an action they want to take despite logic dictating against that action. It's effectively creating an excuse to do something you "know" you shouldn't. Normally emotions are the big reason you want to do so.

 

[Niu6609]

I wouldn't say that man. Bella is Main LI like the other 4 girls. If there wouldn't be good ending with her, then why would DPC make her as a LI?

"At the time, I couldn't understand why Bella was crying. Had I known what was going on in her mind, I wouldn't have done it."

This thing still worries me, not gonna lie. But that could be anything tbh. (If u ask me this will be about her husband) I'm sure there will be happy ending with each main LI. Can you imagine where 4 Main LI gets happy ending aside from Bella? That would be some kind of milking. If you making a Main LI you need to make good ending with her or 'natural-bad' endings. She's not some kind of Side character. So I don't bet on that.

I hope so too. After all, all this is just purely my speculation, and most of time speculations are just that - speculations. We can theorize anything and everything, yet the final product is not in our control. All we can do is hope for a good ending with each of the LIs, and that it won't somehow end up like AL, which was, quite frankly, traumatizing.

 

[felicemastronzo]

There is absolutely a most definite prohibition on relationships between teachers and students. Both the game and real life make that exceedingly clear.

It's true that Cathy transferring would solve that problem, but Cathy's resignation hadn't been announced yet.

really? in the story? i don't remember it at all

however this ban would also apply to Bella, who therefore has the same obstacles as Cathe besides marriage

the relationship with Cathe is doomed only because she is not an LI, we know it but Bella cannot know it...

 

[DavDR]

Here's the sequence:
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The implication seems to be that Bella knows they aren't hers and can't think of anyone else's they could be. So if the MC insists on continuing their relationship she confronts him with the panties and her suspicions. She takes his pause and lame excuse making as confirmation.

I find it fairly plausible, IF we assume she didn't find the panties until after she helped the MC clean his room. Since the panties were presumably not in plain sight (otherwise Cathy or the MC would have noticed them) and since Bella doesn't drive people around very often, I can believe it might take her a few days to find them and figure out where they came from.



There is absolutely a most definite prohibition on relationships between teachers and students. Both the game and real life make that exceedingly clear.

It's true that Cathy transferring would solve that problem, but Cathy's resignation hadn't been announced yet.


Perhaps this is a language barrier issue, but rationalization in this context is the process by which someone constructs a chain of reasoning to justify taking an action they want to take despite logic dictating against that action. It's effectively creating an excuse to do something you "know" you shouldn't. Normally emotions are the big reason you want to do so.

So Bella's a hypocrite then?

 

[DavDR]

Here's the sequence:
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The implication seems to be that Bella knows they aren't hers and can't think of anyone else's they could be. So if the MC insists on continuing their relationship she confronts him with the panties and her suspicions. She takes his pause and lame excuse making as confirmation.

I find it fairly plausible, IF we assume she didn't find the panties until after she helped the MC clean his room. Since the panties were presumably not in plain sight (otherwise Cathy or the MC would have noticed them) and since Bella doesn't drive people around very often, I can believe it might take her a few days to find them and figure out where they came from.



There is absolutely a most definite prohibition on relationships between teachers and students. Both the game and real life make that exceedingly clear.

It's true that Cathy transferring would solve that problem, but Cathy's resignation hadn't been announced yet.


Perhaps this is a language barrier issue, but rationalization in this context is the process by which someone constructs a chain of reasoning to justify taking an action they want to take despite logic dictating against that action. It's effectively creating an excuse to do something you "know" you shouldn't. Normally emotions are the big reason you want to do so.

There may be a prohibition in Duckburg, but there certainly isn't in the United States at the college level. I know someone who married her college Prof. (it didn't work out).

 

[Marley300]

Here's the sequence:
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The implication seems to be that Bella knows they aren't hers and can't think of anyone else's they could be. So if the MC insists on continuing their relationship she confronts him with the panties and her suspicions. She takes his pause and lame excuse making as confirmation.

I find it fairly plausible, IF we assume she didn't find the panties until after she helped the MC clean his room. Since the panties were presumably not in plain sight (otherwise Cathy or the MC would have noticed them) and since Bella doesn't drive people around very often, I can believe it might take her a few days to find them and figure out where they came from.

She must have found the panties in her car Sunday or Monday morning. Because if you did Cathy Lewd scene, Bella doesn’t give you that little smile in the library and she doesn't talk to you after the "LiBrian" scene.

Also goddammit Cathy Why did you take off your panties for a blowjob!?!

I mean I know that she’s sexually frustrated but its basic manners not to leave your underwear in someone else car! She could also have called Bella and tell her that she forgot something in her car and picked it up discreetly. But that's the game I guess

 

[asgardtipar2]

Yeah, that sounds real plausible.

It is. It seems you don't have a lot of experience meeting girls in real life.

 

[ename144]

really? in the story? i don't remember it at all

Well, here's some snippets from Cathy's tryst:

There's also the fact that fucking a teacher was considered "impossible" by the DIKs.

however this ban would also apply to Bella, who therefore has the same obstacles as Cathe besides marriage

the relationship with Cathe is doomed only because she is not an LI, we know it but Bella cannot know it...

Yes, as I said Cathy is just as impossible a romance as Bella. But Bella can recognize that impossibility a lot more easily with Cathy than she can with herself. The thought of fooling around with the MC herself is alluring; the thought of the MC fooling around with Cathy is chilling/infuriating. Which is more likely to call to mind reasons not to fool around with the MC?

So Bella's a hypocrite then?

... Yes?

She's human too, in case you hadn't noticed that, either.

 

[asgardtipar2]

Do you really think there was anything to talk about and to work through? Her discussion with the mc was just that. They talked about it, she told him she wanted to end it. That's how shit goes down when you fuck around outside a relationship, except there's usually a lot more screaming and crying and throwing things (just check that Jade/Stephen scene for reference)..

Bella took her time, she thought about it for a bit. Chances are her immediate reaction was, "What the fuck, here I was thinking Fuckface was doing a good deed driving Cathy home, and he ends up banging her brains out!?" But instead of going ape shit and killing the mc (I guess she learnt her lesson with James), she took some time to think about what she wanted, and realized she wasn't just looking for a fuck buddy, and then she confronted the mc. Very mature of her.

Oh piss off with the Bella killing James ffs hahahaha

 

[citizenofncc]

Btw guys I don't know if this was discussed in the past, but is anybody else who find resembles between this girl & Sage... possible relation mother/older sister?