VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[The Pink Royce]

how to get that scene?

what Marley300 said . she also has to like you enough
(you can be just friends but she has to like you)

 

[DavDR]

I've seen a small amount of questionable grammar, but most flaws are arguably character flaws, not plot flaws. I don't believe Maya and Jill being conned by scumbags is a plot flaw nor bad writing, the con doesn't have to be stack up to reality, just as long as the victim falls for it. And Jill falling for Tybalt's blackmail? Naivety is one of her key attributes.


Personally I've felt the dad was bluffing all along. I doubt he's actually trying to ruin her life, he's just trying to manipulate her away from what he sees is harmful. At the moment though, Maya believes he means it, but she isn't ready to give in, so the dad may still lose the bluff.

Ton's of plot flaws too.

Why give Maya such a vague warning about Quinn? Obviously because that would blow apart the whole Scavenger Hunt.

You're close to Sage but you never mention the restaurant to her?

MC tell's Maya about Josy but never mentions her name. Doesn't that sound a little odd? Anytime I've heard someone describe another person they always say their name.

Speaking of names, why don't we know anybodys? When I put someone's name in my phone I usually put the whole name. And Jill is famous, why haven't we heard her name before ep 5?

This is only four examples but it's all that I can think of right now (besides it's morning and I haven't finished my coffee yet), I know there are lot's more out there, we've discussed them here before.

 

[OrpheusofOlympus]

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[felicemastronzo]

Personally I've felt the dad was bluffing all along. I doubt he's actually trying to ruin her life, he's just trying to manipulate her away from what he sees is harmful. At the moment though, Maya believes he means it, but she isn't ready to give in, so the dad may still lose the bluff.

So Maya would have given up her great love (Josy) twice in a few months, would she have played Quinn's puppet for a bluff?
for not reading the fine print at the bottom of the loan properly?

I hope not, I like BADIK's characters (and I like them even when I don't...) and I hope they won't be ridiculed

 

[Hermith]

Ton's of plot flaws too.

Why give Maya such a vague warning about Quinn? Obviously because that would blow apart the whole Scavenger Hunt.

You're close to Sage but you never mention the restaurant to her?

MC tell's Maya about Josy but never mentions her name. Doesn't that sound a little odd? Anytime I've heard someone describe another person they always say their name.

Speaking of names, why don't we know anybodys? When I put someone's name in my phone I usually put the whole name. And Jill is famous, why haven't we heard her name before ep 5?

This is only four examples but it's all that I can think of right now (besides it's morning and I haven't finished my coffee yet), I know there are lot's more out there, we've discussed them here before.

I'd say that's more like four examples of nitpicking.

 

[The Pink Royce]

Hi guys
I have a couple of questions
1. How long did it take to release Episode 7 ?
2.How can I get this Rooster Post ? What should I do at the party ?

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you have to be involved with Quinn . (smoke pot with her and generally be on her good side)
also help her after she gets robbed and go to hang out with quinn
then at Hot party you gotta go to her room get lewd scene and go to the kitchen . Quinn will be there

make her a drink , take picture

if quinn isnt in the kitchen at hot party u missed some lewd scenes

 

[LoDoN-]

Ton's of plot flaws too.

Why give Maya such a vague warning about Quinn? Obviously because that would blow apart the whole Scavenger Hunt.

You're close to Sage but you never mention the restaurant to her?

MC tell's Maya about Josy but never mentions her name. Doesn't that sound a little odd? Anytime I've heard someone describe another person they always say their name.

Speaking of names, why don't we know anybodys? When I put someone's name in my phone I usually put the whole name. And Jill is famous, why haven't we heard her name before ep 5?

This is only four examples but it's all that I can think of right now (besides it's morning and I haven't finished my coffee yet), I know there are lot's more out there, we've discussed them here before.

I think you make a very fair point.

The vague warning might have been coz the MC doesn't want to reveal to Maya that he pays for sex. Also weird how the MC just kinda never tells Sage that Quinn is fucking with the HoT's reputation behind her back. About MC not telling Maya about Josy, I think it's out of shame, he doesn't really want to talk about one to the other, because he feels guilty about the whole situation, so he tells the minimum information possible, and that backfired epically. In College, I knew people from my class by name and last name, but the people I met on the corridor, I only knew their name and maybe nickname. It's not uncommon to meet people and know them on a first name only basis, but it does get weird when you're dicking or almost dicking them and don't know their last name.

As I said you make a fair point, those are definite Plot Contrivances that added together make a Plot Hole, but since it's not something integral to progression and understanding of the narrative, I find it to be very minor.

 

[GrumpyBanana]

you have to be involved with Quinn . (smoke pot with her and generally be on her good side)
also help her after she gets robbed and go to hang out with quinn
then at Hot party you gotta go to her room get lewd scene and go to the kitchen . Quinn will be there

make her a drink , take picture

if quinn isnt in the kitchen at hot party u missed some lewd scenes

depends on your affinity tho, if you're a DIK Quinn would allow you to help her, and that leads to a scene in her room in the HOT's party. If you're a CHICK, you'd missed out the entire thing

 

[LoDoN-]

So Maya would have given up her great love (Josy) twice in a few months, would she have played Quinn's puppet for a bluff?
for not reading the fine print at the bottom of the loan properly?

I hope not, I like BADIK's characters (and I like them even when I don't...) and I hope they won't be ridiculed

I think the Bluff would be that the father wouldn't allow the situation to actually impact his daughter's life. And that he is only trying to teach a lesson to her (a twisted one), because of his beliefs of homosexuality as a sin. In short, he would make her think she is screwed if she doesn't obey him, but he never intended to actually screw her.

 

[DavDR]

I'd say that's more like four examples of nitpicking.

No it's poor plot structure.

Just the Student Loan by itself has so many flaws, contradictions, and outright howlers that it's enough to lift me out of the story.

The Quinn warning is weird, and has been commented on repeatedly by many poster's.

The failure to mention the Restaurant makes no sense at all. Any character on the Sage path, that supposedly cares about her and the things that she cares about, like the HOT's, would surely warn her about such a huge threat.

 

[Hesteros]

Playing ep6 (Yes I am behind the times).

Man, that scene with Bella (you know which one if you played it) it's beyond this world!
Not just extremely hot but insanely hiqh quality. That's a work of art all right. You don't seen that kind of quality often, even in games like this. I don't think I've seen any other sex scene of such quality.

And now that discussions of high quality and all are out of the way:
Man, that lusty look of Bella. And those funbags are to die for.

If you thought her scene in Ep 6 was hot, then you'll burn to death with her scene in Ep 7. It's also hinted that MC couldn't handle her once they go all the way. I expect it to happen in the next episode.

 

[Hermith]

I think you make a very fair point.

The vague warning might have been coz the MC doesn't want to reveal to Maya that he pays for sex. Also weird how the MC just kinda never tells Sage that Quinn is fucking with the HoT's reputation behind her back. About MC not telling Maya about Josy, I think it's out of shame, he doesn't really want to talk about one to the other, because he feels guilty about the whole situation, so he tells the minimum information possible, and that backfired epically. In College, I knew people from my class by name and last name, but the people I met on the corridor, I only knew their name and maybe nickname. It's not uncommon to meet people and know them on a first name only basis, but it does get weird when you're dicking or almost dicking them and don't know their last name.

As I said you make a fair point, those are definite Plot Contrivances that added together make a Plot Hole, but since it's not something integral to progression and understanding of the narrative, I find it to be very minor.

No it's poor plot structure.

Just the Student Loan by itself has so many flaws, contradictions, and outright howlers that it's enough to lift me out of the story.

The Quinn warning is weird, and has been commented on repeatedly by many poster's.

The failure to mention the Restaurant makes no sense at all. Any character on the Sage path, that supposedly cares about her and the things that she cares about, like the HOT's, would surely warn her about such a huge threat.

The story is linear, things happen no matter what you do the only thing you can control is the way the mc interacts with the events, so sure there's no way he would give full details about the restaurant. Also, come on the mc just met Sage a couple of days ago, guess what would happen if out of nowhere he would tell her that her trusty vp is doing shady stuff behind her back. It would most likely end up with Sage kicking the mc out because she has trust issues at that time and also it's Quinn... why would she believe anyone she just picked up to help her with the "investigation".

Maya never mentioned Josy by name, because her being a lesbian was her most important secret and it's not for someone she just met, no matter how cute and nice is the mc.

Usually if I save someone's number I only save it with their full names if it's a work relationship or has something to do with business. Everyone else goes by their given names or nicknames. So I don't find that part odd at all.

 

[felicemastronzo]

I think the Bluff would be that the father wouldn't allow the situation to actually impact his daughter's life. And that he is only trying to teach a lesson to her (a twisted one), because of his beliefs of homosexuality as a sin. In short, he would make her think she is screwed if she doesn't obey him, but he never intended to actually screw her.

I understand, but Maya's whole life (the part of her life that affects the game) has been driven by this deception, a deception that she could have escaped by simply saying no.

In this way we turn a drama into a farce.

 

[shazba]

Ton's of plot flaws too.

Why give Maya such a vague warning about Quinn? Obviously because that would blow apart the whole Scavenger Hunt.

You're close to Sage but you never mention the restaurant to her?

MC tell's Maya about Josy but never mentions her name. Doesn't that sound a little odd? Anytime I've heard someone describe another person they always say their name.

Speaking of names, why don't we know anybodys? When I put someone's name in my phone I usually put the whole name. And Jill is famous, why haven't we heard her name before ep 5?

This is only four examples but it's all that I can think of right now (besides it's morning and I haven't finished my coffee yet), I know there are lot's more out there, we've discussed them here before.

I'd say that's more like four examples of nitpicking.

Those are all plot contrivances rather than flaws. If Melanie turned out to be Chad's side chick after everyone knew she was on the treadmill at the gym in front of the jocks when Chad was on the call with her, that would have been a flaw. But that didn't happen.

Not knowing people's surnames is not a plot flaw. The game isn't making a big deal about it, people on this board are. If it turns out that some specific surnames have been withheld for a big reveal later and it would be obvious that the mc would have know about it but somehow didn't, that would be lame. Now that happened with Jill, but considering she wasn't in any of the mc's classes, and he only met her a few times, it's not a big surprise he didn't know her full name until Bella spilled the beans, and it wasn't really a big deal for anyone but Jill anyway.

Not telling Sage about Quinn's shady deals isn't a plot flaw. It might be a mistake on the mc's behalf, but he may not think it's such a big deal.

Not telling Maya the full story about Quinn was definitely a lame thing for the mc to do, but it isn't a plot flaw, it was just a contrivance to drive the plot.

Not telling Maya Josy's name, or Josy Maya's name before shit hit the fan was definitely not a plot flaw. If he was interested in both of them, he's gonna keep discussion regarding the other as limited as possible.

So Maya would have given up her great love (Josy) twice in a few months, would she have played Quinn's puppet for a bluff?
for not reading the fine print at the bottom of the loan properly?

I hope not, I like BADIK's characters (and I like them even when I don't...) and I hope they won't be ridiculed

That's the thing about a bluff, you don't know it's a bluff. Maya thinks it's real. The dad really wants her to give up Josy, but how far is the dad prepared to go? We don't know.

Regarding reading the contents of a loan. A few years back I helped my sister out with a home loan, she trusted I knew what I was doing and signed where I told her to sign. A lot of people, girls or guys, aren't great with paperwork, and if someone else is gonna help them with the heavy lifting, they're happy to take a back seat. Me personally, I read fucking everything...

It comes down to whether Maya had any reason to disbelieve her dad at that time. He'd probably already lectured her about Josy, but she may not have expected him to come up with such a dastardly plan. So while she didn't agree with his stance, she still trusted him at the time. It's in episode 3 that Maya comes to the realization that she can't trust her dad (she's a bit slow).

 

[Brian Cohen]

No it's poor plot structure.

Just the Student Loan by itself has so many flaws, contradictions, and outright howlers that it's enough to lift me out of the story.

And yet, here you are, complaining about that same story...

 

[DavDR]

Yeah, mc just met Sage a couple of days ago, guess what would happen if out of nowhere he would tell her that her trusty vp is doing shady stuff behind her back. It would most likely end up with Sage kicking the mc out because she has trust issues at that time and also it's Quinn... why would she believe anyone she just picked up to help her with the "investigation".

Maya never mentioned Josy by name, because her being a lesbian was her most important secret and it's not for someone she just met, no matter how cute and nice is the mc.

Usually if I save someone's number I only save it with their full names if it's a work relationship or has something to do with business. Everyone else goes by their given names or nicknames. So I don't find that part odd at all.

Sage and MC have known each other for a few weeks, she ask him to care for her when she's sick. They're in an intimate physical relationship. Also, her confidence in Quinn has taken some hard knocks recently. Damaging the relationship with another Frat. Botching the recruitment of HOT's. It wouldn't be unusual at all if he warned her about something that could potentially destroy her Sorority. Doesn't sound like a nitpic to me.

Also I wasn't referring to Maya not mentioning Josy's name, I was referring to Mc not mentioning Josy's name. That also brings up the hometown, there's a scene where Maya and MC discuss where he's from, why doesn't Maya ask if he knows Josy? It's a common enough question.

I also notice you didn't mention the Quinn warning. Or the Student Loan. Are these nitpic's?

 

[LoDoN-]

The story is linear, things happen no matter what you do the only thing you can control is the way the mc interacts with the events, so sure there's no way he would give full details about the restaurant. Also, come on the mc just met Sage a couple of days ago, guess what would happen if out of nowhere he would tell her that her trusty vp is doing shady stuff behind her back. It would most likely end up with Sage kicking the mc out because she has trust issues at that time and also it's Quinn... why would she believe anyone she just picked up to help her with the "investigation".

Maya never mentioned Josy by name, because her being a lesbian was her most important secret and it's not for someone she just met, no matter how cute and nice is the mc.

Usually if I save someone's number I only save it with their full names if it's a work relationship or has something to do with business. Everyone else goes by their given names or nicknames. So I don't find that part odd at all.

He just met her a couple of days, but he is already the person she calls to be with her when she is sick. Sage relationship with the MC is in no shape or form a shallow one, a sexual one sure, but there is definitely have some high friendship in there, even if you don't think they are actually romanticly involved (I don't think Sage takes the MC's feelings seriously, at least not right now) besides he wouldn't be telling things without proof, it seems pretty easy to catch this "restaurant" if someone is looking to, just ask for takeout and go with Sage, done. This doesn't have to be when they first met, It could be done after they build some rep with each other.

I was referring to how the situation of the MC dating Josy and kinda dating Maya at the same time, where he would feel awkward talking about one to the other, generating the confusion leading up to the massive M&J reveal.

 

[felicemastronzo]

That's the thing about a bluff, you don't know it's a bluff. Maya thinks it's real. The dad really wants her to give up Josy, but how far is the dad prepared to go? We don't know.

Regarding reading the contents of a loan. A few years back I helped my sister out with a home loan, she trusted I knew what I was doing and signed where I told her to sign. A lot of people, girls or guys, aren't great with paperwork, and if someone else is gonna help them with the heavy lifting, they're happy to take a back seat. Me personally, I read fucking everything...

It comes down to whether Maya had any reason to disbelieve her dad at that time. He'd probably already lectured her about Josy, but she may not have expected him to come up with such a dastardly plan. So while she didn't agree with his stance, she still trusted him at the time. It's in episode 3 that Maya comes to the realization that she can't trust her dad (she's a bit slow).

a bit slow...

I mean, you think a girl who lets her father run her completely through a bluff is a little slow?

So Jill is not the exception, but the standard of BADIK....

I hope it gets a little better.

when I think of all the attempts to defend the double signature loan theory....

 

[AchedCroissant]

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The image quality they are having now is incredible, it already sucks to play the first episodes seeing how the last ones look

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It's kind of sad that I'm the only one for now mentioning Sage's image

 

[DavDR]

Those are all plot contrivances rather than flaws. If Melanie turned out to be Chad's side chick after everyone knew she was on the treadmill at the gym in front of the jocks when Chad was on the call with her, that would have been a flaw. But that didn't happen.

Not knowing people's surnames is not a plot flaw. The game isn't making a big deal about it, people on this board are. If it turns out that some specific surnames have been withheld for a big reveal later and it would be obvious that the mc would have know about it but somehow didn't, that would be lame. Now that happened with Jill, but considering she wasn't in any of the mc's classes, and he only met her a few times, it's not a big surprise he didn't know her full name until Bella spilled the beans, and it wasn't really a big deal for anyone but Jill anyway.

Not telling Sage about Quinn's shady deals isn't a plot flaw. It might be a mistake on the mc's behalf, but he may not think it's such a big deal.

Not telling Maya the full story about Quinn was definitely a lame thing for the mc to do, but it isn't a plot flaw, it was just a contrivance to drive the plot.

Not telling Maya Josy's name, or Josy Maya's name before shit hit the fan was definitely not a plot flaw. If he was interested in both of them, he's gonna keep discussion regarding the other as limited as possible.


That's the thing about a bluff, you don't know it's a bluff. Maya thinks it's real. The dad really wants her to give up Josy, but how far is the dad prepared to go? We don't know.

Regarding reading the contents of a loan. A few years back I helped my sister out with a home loan, she trusted I knew what I was doing and signed where I told her to sign. A lot of people, girls or guys, aren't great with paperwork, and if someone else is gonna help them with the heavy lifting, they're happy to take a back seat. Me personally, I read fucking everything...

It comes down to whether Maya had any reason to disbelieve her dad at that time. He'd probably already lectured her about Josy, but she may not have expected him to come up with such a dastardly plan. So while she didn't agree with his stance, she still trusted him at the time. It's in episode 3 that Maya comes to the realization that she can't trust her dad (she's a bit slow).

Yeah, this is sad. Contrivances, really? Is it really going to break your heart to admit that there are flaws in this game?