VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Room639]

It's been going for almost 3 years already and it's only gaining more and more traction.

I've used this analogy before, but it makes perfect sense to me:

Game of Thrones went for 9 years (8 seasons and the last season took 2 years). A season of GoT is somewhat equivalent to an episode of BaDIK.

If you waited until all the episodes were out and then binged the season, that's a 10 hour binge each year and then you have to wait for another entire year.

Same shit happens with this game except there are two releases a year, and the replayability factor is high, so arguably 10-20 hours of entertainment a year isn't a stretch.

You may lose interest, just like some people may have lost interest in GoT, however by the end of GoT they had record viewership.

This is really the example you want to use? GoT - the greatest embarrassment in entertainment of the decade? A show where the plot became too large and had many loose ends at the end? One that was criticized for unnecessary and irrelevant aspects that took away from the central plot line?

Did people continue to watch? Of course. Were there obvious flaws and legitimate criticism from the half-way point on to the end? Yes. Was a it a successful story? Of course not. Was it a great piece of entertainment? Not at all.

The pace of BaD isn't the only emerging flaw, nor the only one I brought up (though it is a significant flaw). The scope of the game with a (currently) limited character base and plot lines, straying from the story with mini-games, and unnecessary inclusions (such as tennis and DnG) that delay prodcution time are also a factor.

The best part of this game is the story- and, to be clear, the main story line is GREAT. The more that DPC strays from that (and the longer it takes to produce it), the harder it will be to justify the delays in production.

 

[Mr. Hero]

Bella kinda looks like mc's...do you guys also think the same as me?? Can it be something like bella is mc's mother?? And she didn't die when mc born...she left for some reason??

 

[saddevilguy]

Bella kinda looks like mc's...do you guys also think the same as me?? Can it be something like bella is mc's mother?? And she didn't die when mc born...she left for some reason??

Incest is clearly not included. And no, MC's Mom does not look like Bella.

 

[zajaz]

Incest is clearly not included. And no, MC's Mom does not look like Bella.

You are right; she looks like Jill.

 

[Mr. Hero]

Guys after i completed episode 7 yesterday...this tybalt thing is disturbing with my head..i just cant accept it that my girlfriend is blackmailed by a peice of shit and i cant do a shit about it...what is your theory guys?? Can we get rid of tybalt after 3rd date?? Or he is going to continue blackmailing...cant we just prove that the fire alarm was just fake? Or something to get jill out of this mess?? :/
Or counter blackmailing tybalt?? Something?? At least something??? Whats your idea??

 

[zajaz]

Guys after i completed episode 7 yesterday...this tybalt thing is disturbing with my head..i just cant accept it that my girlfriend is blackmailed by a peice of shit and i cant do a shit about it...what is your theory guys?? Can we get rid of tybalt after 3rd date?? Or he is going to continue blackmailing...cant we just prove that the fire alarm was just fake? Or something to get jill out of this mess?? :/
Or counter blackmailing tybalt?? Something?? At least something??? Whats your idea??

How about this?:

MC: From now on, stay away from Jill. Don't even think about seeing her again.

Tybalt: Fine, I can do that. Though I'm afraid that's gonna cost you something. You are gonna have to do something for me.

MC: What's that?

Tybalt?: Give me your ass.

MC: What?!

Tybalt: And you better be prepared; I like going in dry.

*Cue first hidden gay sex scene of the game*

 

[shazba]

This is really the example you want to use? GoT - the greatest embarrassment in entertainment of the decade? A show where the plot became too large and had many loose ends at the end? One that was criticized for unnecessary and irrelevant aspects that took away from the central plot line?

Did people continue to watch? Of course. Were there obvious flaws and legitimate criticism from the half-way point on to the end? Yes. Was a it a successful story? Of course not. Was it a great piece of entertainment? Not at all.

The pace of BaD isn't the only emerging flaw, nor the only one I brought up (though it is a significant flaw). The scope of the game with a (currently) limited character base and plot lines, straying from the story with mini-games, and unnecessary inclusions (such as tennis and DnG) that delay prodcution time are also a factor.

The best part of this game is the story- and, to be clear, the main story line is GREAT. The more that DPC strays from that (and the longer it takes to produce it), the harder it will be to justify the delays in production.

I chose Game of Thrones for comparison because:

• It has only a few episodes per season (compared to other series that have like 20+ episodes that span half the year),
• It ran for as many years as people are speculating this game will run,
• It was wildly popular within it genre (as is BaDIK); and
• Because there was incest (yes BaDIK doesn't have incest, but here at F95 that's a rarity).

It's the obvious choice for comparison.

Whether you liked GoT or not, it had the staying power (I thoroughly enjoyed it up until season 6 but still didn't mind it after that, even the ending didn't bother me too much although it could have been fleshed out more which means more episodes were warranted and it would have taken even longer to complete).

People watched it from beginning to end, and more people joined the viewership as the years went by. Same as BaDIK.

Your fear is it will dwindle and die before it's completed, I'm suggesting that it won't. DPC has already storyboarded the whole game. He fleshes things out as he creates each episode, but he already knows where he's taking the game, he's not just winging it.

I do have a worry that the game may suddenly kick into serious plot mode (like Acting Lessons did once most of the relationships were solidified), and many people may not like that change of pace or direction (I didn't particularly like Acting Lessons whereas thousands lauded it). But that's a different argument.

I don't think this game is going to be just about finally fucking Jill. The MC is already reached his prime, everyone at the college knows him, he has the DIKs and the HOTs virtually eating out of his hand, the teachers are already sucking his cock. Shit has to start going down hill soon, i.e. a conflict to sustain the rest of the game, and my guess is it will come in the form of Vinnie.

Not yet though, we still have a bunch of things to solve that may take a few more episodes:

• Who sent the Jocks the blackmail pictures?
• Who sent the Cathy cluck?
• What behind Bella's door?
• What's the deal with Bella and James?
• What happened between Bella and Jill (their purported one night stand)?
• What will the MC do with his 5K?
• Is there a traitor in the DIKs and is it Nick?
• How will the MC beat Tybalt's blackmailing of Jill?
• What will the MC's Mom's diary reveal?
• Will there be an ultimate confrontation with Maya's Dad?
• What will be the fallout from Burke seeing the Jade and MC video?
• What is Jill's campaign about specifically?
• Is Lily seriously looking to have Quinn supply drugs to the Pink Rose girls?
• What will Jill's third date with Tybalt be and what will happen once they have finished the third date?
• Will Vinny return as an antagonist?
• Will the MC make Riona cum?

There's enough shit there, along with sex scenes, Halloween parties, Spring Break, etc. for this to live on for ages.

Plus, DnG is great.

 

[Kellermann]

Instead of a behind-the-scenes making of BaDIK, what about behind the scenes of BaDIK itself? I think it would be pretty entertaining if DPC did outtakes starring the virtual actors after he's completed the game.

Imagine learning the

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is actually very intelligent, and she ad-libbed many of her scenes ("Not everyone is a rock scientist" sent the actress playing Quinn into a laughing fit). Or that Dawe and the MC were best friends, and Dawe kept trying to get the MC to break character. Everyone would call the actress playing Lynette "Mom" on the set, even though she was the second-youngest there. No one could agree on the pronunciation of "Tybalt" (is it "TIBB-alt" or "TIE-balt?). During the after-tennis shower scene, MC reached over to grab a boob, but the actor playing Stanley was there instead. In fact, that could be a running joke on set. When

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is supposed to sneak into the HOTs shower with the MC, the curtain flies open and the MC sees Stanley standing there, ready to go.

I think it could be a fun, short project for DPC between BaDIK and his next project.

That is the best idea I've heard on here.....that I never want to see implemented. That would be incredibly unique and probably a lot of fun to see, but it would completely ruin my immersiveness in the game world. I don't want to think of these people as goofy actors in a TV show with cackling audience. I want to think of them as real people in an unreal world of my unhinged mind..and I get to inhabit it whenever I play. I always gravitated towards role playing games because sometimes I just like to ditch this shitty reality for a few hours, forget about my problems, and become the MC in whatever game I'm playing. Once this turns into a behind-the-scene gag reel, I

 

[Mr. Hero]

I think "fight for jill" option will have a high consequence later!

 

[`Ray`]

I think "fight for jill" option will have a high consequence later!

I agree. So far the players have the option to avoid other LIs except for Jill.

'Fight for Jill' could be that option which locks you on the Jill path and 'Don't Fight for Jill' could be the one that locks the Jill path.

 

[flippityflop]

So far the players have the option to avoid other LIs except for Jill.

What are you talking about? You can totally avoid her. She barely exists in my playthroughs.

The only two LIs you can't avoid are Maya and Josy. They're integral to the main plot and closest to the MC, regardless of his status or affinity.

 

[CHAD-MAN]

Bella kinda looks like mc's...do you guys also think the same as me?? Can it be something like bella is mc's mother?? And she didn't die when mc born...she left for some reason??

Oh ffs, not this shit again... its like these people come out of the moon to spat non-sense every full moon or something

 

[PashafromRussia]

I chose Game of Thrones for comparison because:

• It has only a few episodes per season (compared to other series that have like 20+ episodes that span half the year),
• It ran for as many years as people are speculating this game will run,
• It was wildly popular within it genre (as is BaDIK); and
• Because there was incest (yes BaDIK doesn't have incest, but here at F95 that's a rarity).

It's the obvious choice for comparison.

Whether you liked GoT or not, it had the staying power (I thoroughly enjoyed it up until season 6 but still didn't mind it after that, even the ending didn't bother me too much although it could have been fleshed out more which means more episodes were warranted and it would have taken even longer to complete).

People watched it from beginning to end, and more people joined the viewership as the years went by. Same as BaDIK.

Your fear is it will dwindle and die before it's completed, I'm suggesting that it won't. DPC has already storyboarded the whole game. He fleshes things out as he creates each episode, but he already knows where he's taking the game, he's not just winging it.

I do have a worry that the game may suddenly kick into serious plot mode (like Acting Lessons did once most of the relationships were solidified), and many people may not like that change of pace or direction (I didn't particularly like Acting Lessons whereas thousands lauded it). But that's a different argument.

I don't think this game is going to be just about finally fucking Jill. The MC is already reached his prime, everyone at the college knows him, he has the DIKs and the HOTs virtually eating out of his hand, the teachers are already sucking his cock. Shit has to start going down hill soon, i.e. a conflict to sustain the rest of the game, and my guess is it will come in the form of Vinnie.

Not yet though, we still have a bunch of things to solve that may take a few more episodes:

• Who sent the Jocks the blackmail pictures?
• Who sent the Cathy cluck?
• What behind Bella's door?
• What's the deal with Bella and James?
• What happened between Bella and Jill (their purported one night stand)?
• What will the MC do with his 5K?
• Is there a traitor in the DIKs and is it Nick?
• How will the MC beat Tybalt's blackmailing of Jill?
• What will the MC's Mom's diary reveal?
• Will there be an ultimate confrontation with Maya's Dad?
• What will be the fallout from Burke seeing the Jade and MC video?
• What is Jill's campaign about specifically?
• Is Lily seriously looking to have Quinn supply drugs to the Pink Rose girls?
• What will Jill's third date with Tybalt be and what will happen once they have finished the third date?
• Will Vinny return as an antagonist?
• Will the MC make Riona cum?

There's enough shit there, along with sex scenes, Halloween parties, Spring Break, etc. for this to live on for ages.

Plus, DnG is great.

I'd rather compare the game to a sitcom. These are comedic situations arising from the immaturity of the characters and the dramatic component is so insignificant that it can be solved without problems for the main characters.
There is no linear plot and conflict in the game. This is not a claim. This is typical for most porn games.
I admire the developer. In the hands of another developer, it would be an average game. But he made an amazing game thanks to his storytelling skills and a well-chosen balance of graphics and music.
Of course, the timing of development is the main thing that worries everyone. I think if he could DPС released the game right now. But he raised the quality bar so high that he can't make the game worse. He became a hostage of his own high quality. If he had done less, many would have said that this is not the level of quality of DPC and other shit.
Nevertheless, I agree that the development time has increased slightly, but the content will increase even more. 4000 renders in six months is a fantastic result. Not every developer on this site can produce 4000 renderers in a year at all. It is thanks to him that the developers began to strive for 1000 renders per month as a quality standard.

 

[felicemastronzo]

I agree. So far the players have the option to avoid other LIs except for Jill.

'Fight for Jill' could be that option which locks you on the Jill path and 'Don't Fight for Jill' could be the one that locks the Jill path.

what do you mean "avoid"?

the only LI you can almost completely avoid is Sage (besides being able to reject her on 2 occasions)

Maya (and consequently Josy) has been central for the whole first season, but remains very present in the second season as well.
Jill on the contrary is present in the first season and dominant in the second one.

Bella, although she has very little space, is practically unavoidable for the non-sexual scenes (the "date" meeting, going to console Cathe, the tennis...)

 

[Ilhares]

So like a Mass Effect or TellTale type setup? Good thinking by the Doc. Will save on download times.

Oh no, poor Conrad! Because seriously, they dropped the ball a couple places, he's just the most well known. I don't want all my save imports to think I beat up Troy. (unless DPC includes that as a joke)

"Thousands of variables" That sounds like a hell of a lot of work and variations for gameplay. Hopefully DPC doesn't start linking previous decisions in such a way that seemingly pointless options in the game have a positive or negative effect. That could put a lot of played-through routes through each other.

As long as he's been keeping track of how many times we blast rope into Camila, Riona, and the other girls-for-flavor so we have potential consequences, I'll be happy.

 

[SteveyP]

Oh no, poor Conrad! Because seriously, they dropped the ball a couple places, he's just the most well known. I don't want all my save imports to think I beat up Troy. (unless DPC includes that as a joke)

Well Conrad does apologize for saying you shot him in the foot when you didn't, maybe we'll get something like that in a later season if DPC screws up the imports in that regard lol.

 

[EfontMan]

I don't want all my save imports to think I beat up Troy.

Maybe in Season 2 we'll find Troy wearing a DIK jacket trying to break up a coke dealing racket in the school cafeteria.

 

[phill_leotardo]

That is the best idea I've heard on here.....that I never want to see implemented.

rofl

 

[`Ray`]

What are you talking about? You can totally avoid her. She barely exists in my playthroughs.

The only two LIs you can't avoid are Maya and Josy. They're integral to the main plot and closest to the MC, regardless of his status or affinity.

what do you mean "avoid"?

the only LI you can almost completely avoid is Sage (besides being able to reject her on 2 occasions)

Maya (and consequently Josy) has been central for the whole first season, but remains very present in the second season as well.
Jill on the contrary is present in the first season and dominant in the second one.

Bella, although she has very little space, is practically unavoidable for the non-sexual scenes (the "date" meeting, going to console Cathe, the tennis...)

Well I didn't mean in that sense...I meant in code. If I am correct, no matter what path you are on, Jill path is always activated regardless of what you choose throughout the game.

By avoiding LIs I meant that there are choices that deactivates their path but for Jill, there is none for now.

I suspect that those choices "Fight/Don't fight for Jill" will do that job.

And apologies, I wasn't clear in my previous post though I did say about locking in or locking Jill's path...

 

[Tailor]

Right I still can't find it after two play throughs and advice off here.

Where the hell is the sounds like trumpet location please.