VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Warscared]

I disagree, and I tell you Why. . In Acting Lessons MC's Ex girlfriend was important, because she left an emotional Scar on MC, that experience defined him. It was an unfinished business so to speak.

But Badik MC and Zoe does not have this unfinished business. There is no emotional connection anymore, regrets , or anything that would make Zoe show up in the present effective. both of them moved on from each other. Even back then MC did not considered as love.

This kind of storylien that you go with, it already happened. And It Was Josy arrival. Josy is funcion as " The Ex" " the unfinished business", while Jill is the new " love" .

Zoe can't bring anything to the table. It might be rude but she is simply unimportant. She is not even plot device like Mona was.

she might become...

Also the only unfinished business the MC as with Josy is busting a nut on her ass while Maya pins the little strumpet minxy slut down and yells "yeah bust that cheating whore ass make her pay for having cheated on me, even if it was with you!"

and somehow even after that abuse she will be like "thanks guys i really needed that i have been having issues taking a dump properly with all this exams anxiety and stress, hope this fixes it!"

 

[Kukipett]

The MC said, "...I would never have kissed her that night. I would have called for help." I always assumed he meant "call for help" as in help for Bella for her mental health, but maybe he meant "call for help" as in, "Police?! There's a crazy woman named Bella trying to kill me!"

Oh yes that's sentence is still in my mind. If i remember well there was a totally crazy girl in AL who tried to kill the MC or someone.
So could it be that Bella is a killer, that she killed her husband and now she is confused and will get in a new killing frenzy. She has removed her ring, her axe is ready in the garage, so if the MC cheat on Jill she could decide to decapitate him. She loves to cut things, we already saw it and she has some strange deep feeling for Jill! She also warned you to never do any harm to Jill or....

 

[shazba]

Zoe can't bring anything to the table.

Spoiler: Oh, I beg to differ...

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[ChipLecsap]

Spoiler: Oh, I beg to differ...

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She can beg all she want. I even went back to watch her whole flashback, and Honestly, She is C - tier. okay, I'll be nice, B tier .
But beside, the thing I said, why it would not make sense for her to show up ever again. Even if She would , I would be "Nah, Go away" I would not rika Best Girl, or Jill, Sage, Maya, Rio, etc , etc, to lose, just because for her.

 

[shazba]

She can beg all she want. I even went back to watch her whole flashback, and Honestly, She is C - tier.

That cuts deep...

When the mc was at his lowest, when no one would be his friend, she was there, wrapping her vaginal walls around his sad member to help him rise above the petty squabbles of adolescences.

And you cheapen that by placing her on the fourth tier? How dare you sir? How dare you!?

 

[Kellermann]

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One look says so much (especially when compared to her previous look of anger at Chad). And some blockhead had the nerve to say DPC doesn't do facial expressions well?? On the contrary, he has truly mastered the art of creating facial expressions that emote pure humanity and raw emotion. I'm actually looking at this picture trying to figure out how in the hell he does it. These eyes are the window to the soul of the character. Yes indeed. I've tried posing models' faces in Daz and i can't get them to look anywhere near as good as this. Mine aren't completely lifeless dolls, but they certainly don't express themselves like this.

And the thing that really gets me is DPC cranks these renders out like an assembly line. It takes me ages just to think of how I want the characters to look and even then I have to muck about with it for longer. This dude seems to envision and create in one step instead of two.

 

[ChipLecsap]

That cuts deep...

When the mc was at his lowest, when no one would be his friend, she was there, wrapping her vaginal walls around his sad member to help him rise above the petty squabbles of adolescences.

And you cheapen that by placing her on the fourth tier? How dare you sir? How dare you!?

I corrected, B- tier. But I don't know, Her Face was weird. The selfies she send to MC, are a bit better, but still no more than a B-tier.
Not Bad achievement from the Beta , or Omega MC , but now He is in a different league.

 

[dalli_x]

I get strong Amy vibes from her… was it Amy in Acting Lessons? The MC’s ex who cheated.

A lot of VN’s use the long lost Ex as a de facto bad ending. Melody did it too. Not that DPC has a habit of repeating himself or copying others.

Zoey is established in the plot and can be brought in with minimal contrivance. As much as I’d like to see her as a full blown LI I suspect the best she will get is being the consolation prize if you fuck up every other route.

I disagree, and I tell you Why. . In Acting Lessons MC's Ex girlfriend was important, because she left an emotional Scar on MC, that experience defined him. It was an unfinished business so to speak.

But Badik MC and Zoe does not have this unfinished business. There is no emotional connection anymore, regrets , or anything that would make Zoe show up in the present effective. both of them moved on from each other. Even back then MC did not considered as love.

This kind of storylien that you go with, it already happened. And It Was Josy arrival. Josy is funcion as " The Ex" " the unfinished business", while Jill is the new " love" .

Zoe can't bring anything to the table. It might be rude but she is simply unimportant. She is not even plot device like Mona was.

Zoey will not be the consolation prize. I rather think Zoey will be a drama. She will show up and interfere with an existing relationship between the MC and a LI.

She asked the MC to come with her. So there were more feelings about Zoey than just friendship. When the MC left after Zoey said goodbye, he thought to himself that maybe there was more than friendship there. He was just indecisive, as he so often is.

With Maya, the MC talked about the relationship he has with Zoey. This conversation also mentions that the MC doesn't really know what love is.

The MC told Isabella everything, but he also says that he doesn't know if it was just friendship or love.

When the MC talks to Sage after her breakup with Chad, there are 2 possibilities. In one, the MC tells Sage to be angry, etc, and then she should move on. The other option is a little different. The MC advises Sage to take her time and then confront Chad verbally. Sage then asks the MC if he has already done that. The answer is interesting. He says that he should have done it after the fact, but he missed his chance.

I always thought it had something to do with Josy and Maya until recently, but it doesn't because the MC talked to Josy and Maya. Ergo, that leaves Zoey.

Zoey reappears and confuses the MC.

 

[sorco2003]

Zoey will not be the consolation prize. I rather think Zoey will be a drama. She will show up and interfere with an existing relationship between the MC and a LI.

She asked the MC to come with her. So there were more feelings about Zoey than just friendship. When the MC left after Zoey said goodbye, he thought to himself that maybe there was more than friendship there. He was just indecisive, as he so often is.

With Maya, the MC talked about the relationship he has with Zoey. This conversation also mentions that the MC doesn't really know what love is.

The MC told Isabella everything, but he also says that he doesn't know if it was just friendship or love.

When the MC talks to Sage after her breakup with Chad, there are 2 possibilities. In one, the MC tells Sage to be angry, etc, and then she should move on. The other option is a little different. The MC advises Sage to take her time and then confront Chad verbally. Sage then asks the MC if he has already done that. The answer is interesting. He says that he should have done it after the fact, but he missed his chance.

I always thought it had something to do with Josy and Maya until recently, but it doesn't because the MC talked to Josy and Maya. Ergo, that leaves Zoey.

Zoey reappears and confuses the MC.

You can also see it as Zoe being the MC's best friend and the one who knows him best after Neil.
Maybe she doesn't add drama, maybe she decompresses the drama that the MC creates with the LIs....
Plus the setting for her appearance could not be B&R, it would be the old town, Neil's house.

 

[Yukemoto]

has anyone been able to actually combine the Split Nopy download?

 

[DanThaMan]

has anyone been able to actually combine the Split Nopy download?

Download all parts, and extract part one only.. job done.

 

[ChipLecsap]

Zoey will not be the consolation prize. I rather think Zoey will be a drama. She will show up and interfere with an existing relationship between the MC and a LI.

She asked the MC to come with her. So there were more feelings about Zoey than just friendship. When the MC left after Zoey said goodbye, he thought to himself that maybe there was more than friendship there. He was just indecisive, as he so often is.

With Maya, the MC talked about the relationship he has with Zoey. This conversation also mentions that the MC doesn't really know what love is.

The MC told Isabella everything, but he also says that he doesn't know if it was just friendship or love.

When the MC talks to Sage after her breakup with Chad, there are 2 possibilities. In one, the MC tells Sage to be angry, etc, and then she should move on. The other option is a little different. The MC advises Sage to take her time and then confront Chad verbally. Sage then asks the MC if he has already done that. The answer is interesting. He says that he should have done it after the fact, but he missed his chance.

I always thought it had something to do with Josy and Maya until recently, but it doesn't because the MC talked to Josy and Maya. Ergo, that leaves Zoey.

Zoey reappears and confuses the MC.

Nah. Beside the things I already said, the fundamental difference between AL MC and his Ex, and MC and Zoe. The Players would not buy it. You spend 8 episode or more, 2 years, building a relationship with Jill for example, and its lead to a kind of love confession, only to Zoe show up later, and Suddenly MC is confused ?! Nah. Especially because Zoe was not a lingering feeling for MC , That was Josy. Zoe was never brought up beside that one background Story, and that it was, nothing more just a background Story. MC never give any vibe that he has unfinished business or lingering feeling toward her. This was the fundamental difference between Zoe, and Best Girl aka Josy . IF MC and Zoe was that serious, MC would act differently, try to keep in touch with her, visit her etc etc. But they Drifted apart very peacefully, Zoe even have a new Boyfriend.

Josy on the othehand was the Someone who MC was not ready to let Go. That is Why her arrival shaked the things up, not just with Maya, but also with Jill. Something MC still find weird and freak out about, is the developing relationship between Jill and Best Girl . Especially if He is "Dating" both of them .

Zoe, may can return as a friend, visiting, and may be giving advice to MC, but even that would not feel natural for the Players. Because we do not have connection with Zoe.

Something like this could only work with someone like Sage. if Sage leave the game, and later many Chapter later she show up, that could cause believable "drama", but even that I think would be just like a Friend return to Help MC clear things up in his head.

In similar way like Anna returned to help Seth Cohen, in The O.C. .

 

[poodles]

I fucked up and don't have the right points to unlock a scene. Is there an easy way to fix this, or do i need to start a new game?

 

[dalli_x]

You can also see it as Zoe being the MC's best friend and the one who knows him best after Neil.
Maybe she doesn't add drama, maybe she decompresses the drama that the MC creates with the LIs....
Plus the setting for her appearance could not be B&R, it would be the old town, Neil's house.

That, of course, is also possible.
With Zoey, DPC has created a character who is actually good for both.

Fanfiction

My favorite variation is that Josy and Zoey know each other, maybe were in a relationship before Josy started something with Maya. Zoey finds out about it and gets her revenge. Tommy, who likes to sniff Josy's nail polish, becomes the target of Zoey's revenge. She fucks Tommy and both are caught in flagrante delicto by Josy. Josy, of course, hates Tommy for this. Zoey can now no longer be seen with the two and makes herself to the MC ran. She fucks with the MC then always in the tree house of Tommy and watches Josy and Maya at the love game. But the fuckbuddy relationship of Zoey and the MC changes. Feelings come into play. Zoey leaves for this reason and asks the MC to come with her. She goes, he stays. Things are left unsaid. Josy and the MC fall in love and Maya comes along later. The MC enters into a committed relationship with Josy and Maya from EP7. He plans the Halloween party and they all celebrate it. But at the Halloween party Zoey shows up. Josy, Tommy and the MC realize that they have actually been connected for a while through Zoey. Zoey starts to fight for the MC. Logically, Josy and Maya don't like that (or any other LI). The MC has to decide what he wants at some point. Nice drama potential, with no LI having to die.

 

[sorco2003]

I fucked up and don't have the right points to unlock a scene. Is there an easy way to fix this, or do i need to start a new game?

Which scene?

 

[Yukemoto]

Download all parts, and extract part one only.. job done.

yeah, not working for me, multiple header errors every time, something must have corrupted. Fuck this, I'll just download the full version.

 

[dalli_x]

Nah. Beside the things I already said, the fundamental difference between AL MC and his Ex, and MC and Zoe. The Players would not buy it. You spend 8 episode or more, 2 years, building a relationship with Jill for example, and its lead to a kind of love confession, only to Zoe show up later, and Suddenly MC is confused ?! Nah. Especially because Zoe was not a lingering feeling for MC , That was Josy. Zoe was never brought up beside that one background Story, and that it was, nothing more just a background Story. MC never give any vibe that he has unfinished business or lingering feeling toward her. This was the fundamental difference between Zoe, and Best Girl aka Josy . IF MC and Zoe was that serious, MC would act differently, try to keep in touch with her, visit her etc etc. But they Drifted apart very peacefully, Zoe even have a new Boyfriend.

Josy on the othehand was the Someone who MC was not ready to let Go. That is Why her arrival shaked the things up, not just with Maya, but also with Jill. Something MC still find weird and freak out about, is the developing relationship between Jill and Best Girl . Especially if He is "Dating" both of them .

Zoe, may can return as a friend, visiting, and may be giving advice to MC, but even that would not feel natural for the Players. Because we do not have connection with Zoe.

Something like this could only work with someone like Sage. if Sage leave the game, and later many Chapter later she show up, that could cause believable "drama", but even that I think would be just like a Friend return to Help MC clear things up in his head.

In similar way like Anna returned to help Seth Cohen, in The O.C. .

I need to get a little more serious.

THIS IS NOT AL.
THIS THREAD IS FOR BEING A DIK.

DPC itself has written that Being a Dik cannot be compared to AL.

However, if Zoey is just a backstory, DPC has put in quite a lot of details. The many details actually show that it can't be a pure background story.

I also assume so that the appearance of Zoey, if the player wants it, will not destroy the existing relationship with another LI. It will just somewhat twirl the balls of the MC and/or the ovaries of a LI. Jealousy, in good measure, can be a spice of love.

When do you learn to appreciate something when you have something to lose. Maybe Zoey will trigger just that.

For my MC, Sage is just a good friend. Ergo, she will never become a danger and/or drama for another LI. Actually, she could become more of a danger and/or drama for the MC if more than just a friendship develops between Maya and Sage.

If the player chooses only friendship with the MC, Zoey automatically becomes a backup to trigger just such a drama.

 

[poodles]

Which scene?

I think Jill's tennis scene. I'm too much of a Dik to trigger it.

 

[sorco2003]

I think Jill's tennis scene. I'm too much of a Dik to trigger it.

Then you just have to play it with the mod or start over, just Jill, the most CHICK of the girls.

 

[ename144]

I don't really understand the distinction... in the end the difference is only the age of the protagonist, because moments in which we are forced to moments of mental confusion, completely independent from our direct and indirect choices are not lacking even in BADIK (a boy who has always been bullied and thinks about dropping out of school because his roommate doesn't give him a cuddle, then he runs away in the middle of the night when faced with sentimental difficulties, suddenly he realizes that it's not okay for him to be fuckbuddy... etc etc)

you're right, definitely, it's alienating the whole post-fire AL part if you didn't care about the one left to burn, but I don't think the fourth chapter of BADIK for those not interested in Maya and Josy was all that much better an experience, all that much more engaging...

the big move, the big change in DPC is simply having rejuvenated the MC so that any excess is justified anyway?


this is what we all hope, but on Quinn, Riona (but also Bella and in part the trouple) the omens are not very happy, that cocaine will end up somewhere

and DPC with these fan expectations plays a lot with it, I don't think the axe in Bella's garage is random....

While I'm certainly not going to defend (objectively) the way BaDIK handled the Maya/Josy crisis in Episode 4, I do think it manages to beat out the... incident in AL.

• The BaDIK MC is at least a decade older. A teenager overreacting to a failed romance (even one that never got off the ground) is a lot easier to swallow than a ~30 year old becoming a recluse because a friend died tragically.
• We have far more control over the MC in BaDIK during his funk. Sure, the MC is still a moody git, but we get to make a few significant choices in between the forced actions - starting with the the three potential paths through the episode. We can advance alternative romances! We can rate asses! We can return to the Pink Rose and bang our distaff doppelganger! We can water plants! ... okay that last one may not actually be in BaDIK's favor. But I stand by the rest!
• The tone of the game is worlds apart. I said AL wallows in the misery it unleashes, and I meant it. The MC is a broken man looking back on events from two years down the line, apparently having little to no contact with his friends in that time. In BaDIK, the MC is in his funk for 2 days, and his friends and acquaintances are all trying to lift his spirits - Jill even succeeds! (Hell, much as I dislike Jade, I thought her heart to heart for MC on her path was excellent.)
• Sort of obvious, but the final act of AL was the end of the game, whereas Episode 4 was just the end of BaDIK's season. That means BaDIK had the chance to recover from its mistake, and by in large it has used that opportunity well (IMHO). For AL, there is no recovering from that faceplant.
• Most importantly, the crisis in BaDIK is entirely rooted in the game itself: the MC's journey to adulthood, with all the bumps and bruises that normally entails. The crisis in AL, on he other hand, isn't about the MC connecting with new friends, it's about a serial killer we never knew existed killing someone the MC likes because she's batshit crazy. Not only does this mean that BaDIK's twist is a surprise rather than a blatant asspull, it also means BaDIK is well positioned to deal with the ramifications of the twist in the future. AL, in contrast, became a totally different game (including the near complete removal of game mechanics) because it was forced to grapple with something completely alien to what it had been doing for the first 6 episodes.

Let me disagree with you. Josy has done a lot of frivolous things.
1) For all the time she has never visited Maya.
2) She joined Hots contrary to Maya's opinion
3) She did not stand up for Maya in a conversation with Becky (are you her girlfriend or who?) But she kicked Tommy.
4) I will repeat again. Josy didn't come to college for Maya, but for MC. And she wanted TO BREAK UP WITH MAYA. She speaks directly in conversation with MC.
5)She goes to spend the night with MC(her ex) What?

Allow me to return the favor.

• "All that time" was a week and a half. She obviously couldn't visit until Maya was at B&R, and for most of the first week Josy was probably hoping her acceptance would arrive any day.
• She explicitly says she needs to talk the matter over with Maya before she joins the HOTs, and as far as we can tell Maya accepts the logic of her decision even if she doesn't like it. (Note that Maya does back off in class when Josy tells her not to take her frustrations out on her).
• What's to defend? Becky never said anything bad about Maya. We don't even know for sure that she was lying about not remembering Maya. I suppose you could argue this makes Josy look self-absorbed, but it's not like having a girlfriend means you can't spend time with other people.
• I mostly agree with this (though I think Josy intended to come clean to the MC and then decide what to do with his input), but I don't see how that counts as frivolous. While she was clearly thinking about ending the relationship, I see no evidence that Josy was doing so lightly.
• Ummm... Maya asked the MC to let Josy sleep in his room. She was afraid of Patrick returning when her guard would be down.

This is why I think she'll return near the end of the game in order to be the catalyst for him to end several of the relationships and focus on just one LI

How would Zoey do that? I'd say the MC is already a lot more emotionally invested with the LIs than he was with Zoey (and a few of the side girls to boot). If he's still dating multiple girls when Zoey resurfaces, I doubt she'd make a dent in his thinking; more likely he'd just try and add her to his collection.

Besides, as ChipLecsap said, we already had this exact scenario in Episode 4. Sure, it was handled badly, but adding Zoey to the mix would not have solved the problems. (Plus, I feel like Jill's polaroid has claimed the role if we ever need an encore.)

I think if Zoey does return at a dramatic moment, it's more likely to be as a sounding board for the MC. She can give him objective advice while still knowing the MC and caring about his well being.