VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[felicemastronzo]

Now, I'm no rocket surgeon, but I'm pretty sure she wasn't punished for having dinner with a boy. The much more probable outcome is that it was because she basically got caught fuckin' in her parents bed.

Which, all things being equal, is not unreasonable.

the point is exactly that

if Mc stays over to "sleep" at Josy's, it makes sense for the parents to punish her, but they do it anyway, even if MC leaves right after dinner, which doesn't make much sense, but Josy MUST be punished, otherwise she would have the phone

Its not about positive or negative, you can like it or hate it, that wont change my enjoyment, just as mine doesnt change yours.

Its about the foundations beeing there, and you comparing it to "Murder on the Orient Express", read it again stop at 40-50% and THEN make a comparison. DPC adresses problems that are very common in society, granted I can only speak for US society and my problem with your prior post is that you sum that up as "soap opera", because to me that would make life a soap opera.

Now if these problems dont exist in your country, and in that case I can understand how it would feel too fantastical, kudos to you and your country, but I can assure you they are as real as it gets here.

I still don't understand what you're talking about

I probably didn't explain myself well...

I mentioned "murder on the orient express," as an example of a very neat plot, like the mechanism of a clock. BADIk is not and does not want to be, and I do not need to see how it will continue, because it is clear that this is not its goal.

the themes it deals with (homosexuality, difficult families) have nothing to do with what i have said

you are the one who gives a strange and negative meaning to the term soap opera, in them everything happens, people die, get sick, change sex, and everything revolves around the sentimental events, which are the pivot of the plot

 

[Pendrell]

After reading almost 50 pages of this thread (and finding out that I missed the release of the preview with my 2 favourite LIs , damm Im disappointed I missed that ), I have finally caught up with the thread.

I wont dive into the discussion about the preview because Im simply too late to the party and because everything, one way or another, was already said

One thing that I always found to be my guilty pleasure on this thread is peoples opinions of Quinn and their expectations for her character.
Quinn was always in my top 3 girls in this game... YES, even throughout the first episodes . I always liked her bitchy give 0 fucks about everyone type of attitude. She gave this game a sense of adventure, edginess, and challenge that was nothing like we have seen from other characters. (And I now a lot of 0Day Quinn Fans thought the same as me )

Then episodes 5/6/7(more on 6 and 7) came and it was truly funny seeing people saying things like "maybe shes not that EVIL" or "maybe she can CHANGE"

The 2 words highlighted are what I dont agree about the posts Im responding (at least they were giving me the vibe of those words)... I DONT WANT Quinn to CHANGE/ATTEMPT TO CHANGE because of the MC. I DONT WANT DPC to do a complete 180 on her character (As always, its my opinion). People seem to be more into Quinn because of what she could be and not because of how she is now ...

Quinn getting a BIT more sensitive towards the MC like in the later episodes? Sure, I was and still am down for that. But thats all the sensivity I need, or else Quinn will slowly turn into Jill .

To sum up my point: I still want Quinn to be the Evil Queen Bitch to everyone else, even to the MC as a way of challenge when in public. When shes alone with the MC, I want Quinn to be just like she is now: Easygoing, challenging with how she talks with the MC, confident of herself and that always takes/gets what she wants. And most importantly: a Succubus in bed that the MC has to work really hard to please and to punish

Quinn being a ball of love, shy and softening up even more??? Who is this person, dont do my girl like this

I liked Quinn from the start too, so I see where you're coming from with this. If I'm honest though, the moments where we've seen her let her guard down have made me like her even more. That doesn't mean I want to see her become Jill - I like that she's "bad" - but I also like seeing her softer side, and the sense only the MC can bring that out in her.

Redemption, bad girl to the end, something in between...there are various routes DPC could take with her, and I think the jury's still out on his intentions. If I had to guess I'd bet there will ultimately be some sort of narrative pay-off for all these little moments he's putting in there, but who knows.

I trust DPC, though. For me, he's handled the development of the character and the relationship with the MC extraordinarily well, it's one of the triumphs of the game, and I can't wait to see where it goes.

 

[Zirael Q]

Again with Quinn redemption talks, really? What does she need to do that?
Apologizing to Maya?
Quitting drugs and dealing, instead of those, studying really hard and getting a tuition?
Shutting down the restaurant?
Stopping playing people around her?
Giving fucks?
Being nice and helpful to everyone?
Being a lovestruck teenie girl unable to do take initiative by herself?

Not sure if you caught it, but we already have one Maya. No need for a second one.

So far, Sage openly told her interest for MC.
From selling MC a threesome with her and Riona, now she literally asks MC to choose someone for a freebie. What were she saying at the beginning of the game? "I don't do freebies."
No sleepovers? MC did that.
At rooftop, she was saying "I don't suck anyone's dick.". After MC refused to pay for it, she said "Only this time.". Now, she asks for "permission" to do it. Ep 7 scene ending doesn't need any explanation. When she was sure MC was sleeping, showed how she really feels openly. That's fucking new there.
MC and Sage's scene changes depending on Quinn's affection level, she doesn't like seeing him fuck Sage, or someone else.

She's already changing, but this will be the extent of it. An MC on her path earns her trust and she lowers her barriers one by one. To outside, she's the same person. That won't change. And shouldn't, that's what makes Quinn interesting.

 

[inevitableandinfinity8]

Again with Quinn redemption talks, really? What does she need to do that?
Apologizing to Maya?
Quitting drugs and dealing, instead of those, studying really hard and getting a tuition?
Shutting down the restaurant?
Stopping playing people around her?
Giving fucks?
Being nice and helpful to everyone?
Being a lovestruck teenie girl unable to do take initiative by herself?

Not sure if you caught it, but we already have one Maya. No need for a second one.

So far, Sage openly told her interest for MC.
From selling MC a threesome with her and Riona, now she literally asks MC to choose someone for a freebie. What were she saying at the beginning of the game? "I don't do freebies."
No sleepovers? MC did that.
At rooftop, she was saying "I don't suck anyone's dick.". After MC refused to pay for it, she said "Only this time.". Now, she asks for "permission" to do it. Ep 7 scene ending doesn't need any explanation. When she was sure MC was sleeping, showed how she really feels openly. That's fucking new there.
MC and Sage's scene changes depending on Quinn's affection level, she doesn't like seeing him fuck Sage, or someone else.

She's already changing, but this will be the extent of it. An MC on her path earns her trust and she lowers her barriers one by one. To outside, she's the same person. That won't change. And shouldn't, that's what makes Quinn interesting.

I love Quinn :

It's interesting that the most complex and human love interest in the game is so divisive. Quinn comes from the most broken home with the least wealth, no family upon whom she can depend, no real friends, and a survival instinct she learned from her surroundings. Growing up in an environment where people have to have their fix at any cost or sell to people who have to have their fix at any cost teaches a person that being like the Jill's or even the Sage's of the world gets you hurt.

Quinn doesn't even know what real love is because she's never experienced it. Her entire life has been about what people can get from her and never about what anyone can do for her without a quid pro quo expectation of something in return. The MC could be her first true love interest in terms of someone who is not using her for anything and who genuinely likes her for the good qualities he knows she has behind the offensive sword and defensive shields she creates to keep people at a distance.

People don't come without baggage. Just because Quinn's baggage is more ostensible doesn't mean she is more flawed. Quinn's story has been told to a greater extent than has the story of other love interests. Perhaps when their stories are told they will be equally flawed in other ways. It might be best to reserve judgment on characters until the story has been told in its entirety.

 

[Klopdwerg]

"People really need to stop acting like DPC is a literary genius." - No they don't. The attention to detail to all the facets of the game is outstanding.

"It's not a masterpiece. It's not even competent really." - It's one of the most continuously entertaining games on this site. That's been achieved, among other things, due to the excellent literary style used throughout. I would go so far as to suggest it is an extremely competent creation.

"Why is Jill comically naïve beyond the point of plausibility? Because she was written that way, not because somebody would be a junior in college and be that way." - All characters in a story are created to service the plot. Jill is a sheltered, naïve woman. The seemingly obvious reason behind her sheltered upbringing was the untimely death of her rebellious sister.

"Why does she have no friends except Bella?" - Most of the girls at the college are total sluts. Not really Jill's kinda people. She befriends Josy quite easily. Nowhere has it been identified that she's painfully shy.

"Why does she live in the rich kid frat? Seriously, actually why does she? It makes no sense." - She's an honoured female guest in the frat. As a family member of the college's founders, it would make sense for the preps to invite her there to bolster their egos.

"Why is the fact that her family is rich and presumably big donors to the school some dark secret? For drama!" - It's not a secret. It's just that Jill realised the mc didn't know she was a Royce, it made her happy to know he liked her for her, and not because she was filthy rich.

"Why is Bella so mysterious about her past and where her husband is? For the intrigue." - That's kinda how you do intrigue; you don't tell the reader everything... Not sure how this can be an issue with the game.

"Why does Maya need a cosigner for student loans?" - She doesn't. Her dad tricked her into thinking she was locked into a loan so he could control her. It doesn't have to make sense to us, it's only require that Maya thinks she's over a barrel.

"Why is she a lesbian? Well she's not really, seeing as in the first month of college she potentially hooked up with this dude. Thus proving her dad right that if she was separated from Josy she'd not be gay. Don't think DPC thought that out all the way." - She's a bisexual girl who never had strong feeling with a guy before so she thought she was simply gay. Turns out the "girly" mc appeals to her. We know that because she discussed it with him.

Even though the dad's approach had the desired impact (from the dad's perspective), it doesn't mean the dad was right.

"Why is Josy dating Maya?" - It was an unexpected twist in the story. Lots of stories do that, it helps keep them interesting.

"Why do people cook up elaborate stories about how Josy and Tommy actually had sex or whatever..." - Hardly anyone is saying that. And most comments regarding incest are that there will be none in this game.

Seriously, all the answers to everything you're querying is in the game (except the Maya loan one).

Big fat Thumbs up for you Shaz for this summary. Right on the spot and even DPC couldn't be more clear.

 

[JamieSadistic]

After reading almost 50 pages of this thread (and finding out that I missed the release of the preview with my 2 favourite LIs , damm Im disappointed I missed that ), I have finally caught up with the thread.

I wont dive into the discussion about the preview because Im simply too late to the party and because everything, one way or another, was already said

One thing that I always found to be my guilty pleasure on this thread is peoples opinions of Quinn and their expectations for her character.
Quinn was always in my top 3 girls in this game... YES, even throughout the first episodes . I always liked her bitchy give 0 fucks about everyone type of attitude. She gave this game a sense of adventure, edginess, and challenge that was nothing like we have seen from other characters. (And I now a lot of 0Day Quinn Fans thought the same as me )

Then episodes 5/6/7(more on 6 and 7) came and it was truly funny seeing people saying things like "maybe shes not that EVIL" or "maybe she can CHANGE"

The 2 words highlighted are what I dont agree about the posts Im responding (at least they were giving me the vibe of those words)... I DONT WANT Quinn to CHANGE/ATTEMPT TO CHANGE because of the MC. I DONT WANT DPC to do a complete 180 on her character (As always, its my opinion). People seem to be more into Quinn because of what she could be and not because of how she is now ...

Quinn getting a BIT more sensitive towards the MC like in the later episodes? Sure, I was and still am down for that. But thats all the sensivity I need, or else Quinn will slowly turn into Jill .

To sum up my point: I still want Quinn to be the Evil Queen Bitch to everyone else, even to the MC as a way of challenge when in public. When shes alone with the MC, I want Quinn to be just like she is now: Easygoing, challenging with how she talks with the MC, confident of herself and that always takes/gets what she wants. And most importantly: a Succubus in bed that the MC has to work really hard to please and to punish

Quinn being a ball of love, shy and softening up even more??? Who is this person, dont do my girl like this

I've been a Quinn fan since day 1. I think you misunderstood what I said. I don't want Quinn to change how she is to everyone else... I could give a fuck if she slaps Riona's whole head off...or forces Maya to leave college...or continues her prostitution ring and selling drugs. I don't care about any of that shit. What I want to happen with her is those walls shes got built up to come down for MC and MC alone. That's it. When I said the softening of her eyes verses how she is in other interactions, note that she was LOOKING AT MC during that scene. That's the shit I dig. I don't care about her interactions with anyone else.

Again with Quinn redemption talks, really? What does she need to do that?
Apologizing to Maya?
Quitting drugs and dealing, instead of those, studying really hard and getting a tuition?
Shutting down the restaurant?
Stopping playing people around her?
Giving fucks?
Being nice and helpful to everyone?
Being a lovestruck teenie girl unable to do take initiative by herself?

Not sure if you caught it, but we already have one Maya. No need for a second one.

So far, Sage openly told her interest for MC.
From selling MC a threesome with her and Riona, now she literally asks MC to choose someone for a freebie. What were she saying at the beginning of the game? "I don't do freebies."
No sleepovers? MC did that.
At rooftop, she was saying "I don't suck anyone's dick.". After MC refused to pay for it, she said "Only this time.". Now, she asks for "permission" to do it. Ep 7 scene ending doesn't need any explanation. When she was sure MC was sleeping, showed how she really feels openly. That's fucking new there.
MC and Sage's scene changes depending on Quinn's affection level, she doesn't like seeing him fuck Sage, or someone else.

She's already changing, but this will be the extent of it. An MC on her path earns her trust and she lowers her barriers one by one. To outside, she's the same person. That won't change. And shouldn't, that's what makes Quinn interesting.

Exactly

 

[DavyDaoist]

What i look forward too is MC's futur walk of shame. It needs to be a consistent establishment of superiority.

 

[badnboujee]

Man... A 19GB file, no update patch because of what DPC said, and nopy is dead. Release day is gonna look like black friday at a Walmart -- good luck to all of you

 

[JamieSadistic]

Man... A 19GB file, no update patch because of what DPC said, and nopy is dead. Release day is gonna look like black friday at a Walmart -- good luck to all of you

If there's no update patch, I'm not gonna be able to download it. 19G is way too much for me to download in one file. Mega would die after 10g... Nopy is dead, all other sites are trash with 6 hour download times for a 1g file. Hopefully someone releases a compressed version fairly quickly

 

[STNeish]

Lol rando question but why are so many people down on Maya? , is it because she doesn't look like a sex doll like 90% of the girls in the game? , is it because she's lesbian? or is it because she's cock blocking yall from a solo route with Josey?.. I don't know, I personally think she's great, she has that "girl next door" vibe and her character model not being overly sexualized unlike majority of the B.A.D girls is a plus for me.
also I don't think either she or Josey needs solo routes,them being that cute lesbian couple separates them from the rest.. Tremelo already has like 95% of the games girls at his disposal, let's not be selfish now lol.
And really I don't see how a solo Josy route won't end with Maya being hurt cause if Josy chooses Tremelo over her, Maya won't have anyone, she won't have Josy or Tremelo leaving her sad and lonely.. Yall really wanna do that to poor ol Maya when you can just be with both her and Josy?.. But then again I'm probably in the minority here who actually gives a feck about Maya.

I'm not down on Maya... but I don't find her as interesting as Quinn or Sage. I guess I like challenging, strong women. Maya (and Josy too) just seems kind of... soft. Bella is a mixed bag. She's challenging on the outside, but it's a facade... and I just can't get excited by the exaggerated proportions. To my eye, Quinn has the best physique in the game (though Maya, Josy and Sarah are pretty hot too...). Bella has the most rivetingly beautiful face, though.

Whole package for me is Quinn: Beautiful, sexy, challenging and confident... and a little dangerous. Perhaps more than a little. More, she's damaged, and there's a sense that she needs to be saved, despite herself. I (and I think many men) find that very alluring.

 

[thorin0815]

Man... A 19GB file, no update patch because of what DPC said, and nopy is dead. Release day is gonna look like black friday at a Walmart -- good luck to all of you

Don't worry, Anonfile delivers lightning fast 50kb/second, so the 19 gb should be downloaded within a few weeks.

 

[Deleted member 1949178]

I’ve been in the hospital for two weeks unable to check the thread. Can anybody tell me if beta testing has started? Also any images I’ve missed. Please/Thank You

 

[DavDR]

"People really need to stop acting like DPC is a literary genius." - No they don't. The attention to detail to all the facets of the game is outstanding.

"It's not a masterpiece. It's not even competent really." - It's one of the most continuously entertaining games on this site. That's been achieved, among other things, due to the excellent literary style used throughout. I would go so far as to suggest it is an extremely competent creation.

"Why is Jill comically naïve beyond the point of plausibility? Because she was written that way, not because somebody would be a junior in college and be that way." - All characters in a story are created to service the plot. Jill is a sheltered, naïve woman. The seemingly obvious reason behind her sheltered upbringing was the untimely death of her rebellious sister.

"Why does she have no friends except Bella?" - Most of the girls at the college are total sluts. Not really Jill's kinda people. She befriends Josy quite easily. Nowhere has it been identified that she's painfully shy.

"Why does she live in the rich kid frat? Seriously, actually why does she? It makes no sense." - She's an honoured female guest in the frat. As a family member of the college's founders, it would make sense for the preps to invite her there to bolster their egos.

"Why is the fact that her family is rich and presumably big donors to the school some dark secret? For drama!" - It's not a secret. It's just that Jill realised the mc didn't know she was a Royce, it made her happy to know he liked her for her, and not because she was filthy rich.

"Why is Bella so mysterious about her past and where her husband is? For the intrigue." - That's kinda how you do intrigue; you don't tell the reader everything... Not sure how this can be an issue with the game.

"Why does Maya need a cosigner for student loans?" - She doesn't. Her dad tricked her into thinking she was locked into a loan so he could control her. It doesn't have to make sense to us, it's only require that Maya thinks she's over a barrel.

"Why is she a lesbian? Well she's not really, seeing as in the first month of college she potentially hooked up with this dude. Thus proving her dad right that if she was separated from Josy she'd not be gay. Don't think DPC thought that out all the way." - She's a bisexual girl who never had strong feeling with a guy before so she thought she was simply gay. Turns out the "girly" mc appeals to her. We know that because she discussed it with him.

Even though the dad's approach had the desired impact (from the dad's perspective), it doesn't mean the dad was right.

"Why is Josy dating Maya?" - It was an unexpected twist in the story. Lots of stories do that, it helps keep them interesting.

"Why do people cook up elaborate stories about how Josy and Tommy actually had sex or whatever..." - Hardly anyone is saying that. And most comments regarding incest are that there will be none in this game.

Seriously, all the answers to everything you're querying is in the game (except the Maya loan one).

Excuses, excuses, excuses

 

[Tserriednich'sNen]

I’ve been in the hospital for two weeks unable to check the thread. Can anybody tell me if beta testing has started? Also any images I’ve missed. Please/Thank You

https://f95zone.to/threads/being-a-dik-v0-7-2-dr-pinkcake.25332/post-6875641

 

[DavDR]

Now, I'm no rocket surgeon, but I'm pretty sure she wasn't punished for having dinner with a boy. The much more probable outcome is that it was because she basically got caught fuckin' in her parents bed.

Which, all things being equal, is not unreasonable.

Try playing the scene again, even if MC chooses NOT to stay with Josy after dinner she still winds up grounded with her phone taken away.

 

[Deleted member 1784858]

I don't have a problem with BADIk being what it is, cheap fun schlock, but people need to recognize that it is what it is. DPC doesn't claim that it's high art, or some kind of tight narrative. It's objective is to coherently string together a series of increasingly debatched sexual encounters, which it does well enough.

You say that like 40-50% at least of the sexual events in this game are not the MC engaging in some kind of foreplay and all the times you have been given the option to 'check her out?' I seriously doubt is for boys. You are not the author and are in NO position to dictate to me or anyone for that matter what this story is about or what the authors objective in regards to their work. Also this is still art and art is highly subjective, Shakespeare wasn't a genius because he matched a standard he was considered a genius because the queen liked her angry little man and he was good at entertaining people (which isn't even hard by the way.) so if some one here or anywhere thinks that the author of this story is a genius then you cannot say that they are wrong without looking like an uneducated jackass.

 

[Deleted member 4212304]

You say that like 40-50% at least of the sexual events in this game are not the MC engaging in some kind of foreplay and all the times you have been given the option to 'check her out?' I seriously doubt is for boys. You are not the author and are in NO position to dictate to me or anyone for that matter what this story is about or what the authors objective in regards to their work. Also this is still art and art is highly subjective, Shakespeare wasn't a genius because he matched a standard he was considered a genius because the queen liked her angry little man and he was good at entertaining people (which isn't even hard by the way.) so if some one here or anywhere thinks that the author of this story is a genius then you cannot say that they are wrong without looking like an uneducated jackass.

LAMO, this stuff isn't Shakespeare man, though he was considered lowbrow for his time. It's interactive American Pie.

Shakespeare's work stands on its own merits, and has for a long time. Elizabeth I has been dead for a long time too. Him being one of her court favorites, not the only one btw, has little to do with his popularity. You couldn't name another playwright from that time, only him. This is not a product of Early Modern petty court politics.

And art isn't subjective, no serious artist will say this, though no serious artist will spend their time insisting neoclassical realism is the only legitimate form of artistic expression either. Quite frankly it's insulting to say that because art is "subjective" DPC and William Shakespeare are potentially literary equals.

 

[anonymoussposter]

If there's no update patch, I'm not gonna be able to download it. 19G is way too much for me to download in one file. Mega would die after 10g... Nopy is dead, all other sites are trash with 6 hour download times for a 1g file. Hopefully someone releases a compressed version fairly quickly

Does mediafire has limit ?

if not then it is as good as nopy

 

[FAP369ZONE]

If there's no update patch, I'm not gonna be able to download it. 19G is way too much for me to download in one file. Mega would die after 10g... Nopy is dead, all other sites are trash with 6 hour download times for a 1g file. Hopefully someone releases a compressed version fairly quickly

Uploaders should try these...
Workupload is good and big files can be split in 2GB parts
Pixeldrain is good and big files can be split in 5GB parts
MediaFire is good and big files can be split in 10GB parts
Letsupload is good and big files can be split in 11GB parts

... and for single file download there are these two...
Gofile is good and has 30GB
FileMail is good and has 50GB

Good file hosts are there, they just need to be used more... hope they get more popular for OP links but yeah replacing nopy will be hard but not impossible, besides they might come back some day and throw a surprise party .

 

[anonymoussposter]

Uploaders should try these...
Workupload is good and big files can be split in 2GB parts
Pixeldrain is good and big files can be split in 5GB parts
MediaFire is good and big files can be split in 10GB parts
Letsupload is good and big files can be split in 11GB parts

... and for single file download there are these two...
Gofile is good and has 30GB
FileMail is good and has 50GB

Good file hosts are there, they just need to be used more... hope they get more popular for OP links but yeah replacing nopy will be hard but not impossible, besides they might come back some day and throw a surprise party .

Does limit works if we use IDM to download from these sites ??